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2019 NHL Draft, Pt. II

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Bubbles

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sting101 said:
10. Payton Krebs - a lot to like about this player but then you look at his stats and see -50 and 19goals and start to wonder why the hell would anyone rate him so high?
He has really made some leaps in development and seems to have a lot of pro like traits but at 5'11 without elite skills you wonder what is the upside and why would he rate higher than a guy like Caufield who scores at an alarming rate. Unfortunately i didnt get to see a tonne of Krebs this year but his IQ overall game tempo and playmaking are excellent and still is top10 for me as he looks like he could be Jaden Schwartz for someone. Really risky pick
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His IQ is considered one of the very top of the draft. He played on a terrible Kootenay team where they traded the second and third top scorer, and he still led the team by 18 points. Also named as captain as a 17year old.
 
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Not,that it matters but had a dream we won the lottery! I was explaining to strangers that this never happens to us and it was such a special feeling.
 
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Zegras is the 'shoot for the moon' pick in the top10, IMO. Hoping he falls to the Canucks pick on draft day.

It seems like Boldy will be taken before the Canucks pick.

Soderstrom will likely be there for the Canucks, if they should decide to take a RHD.
 
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sting101 said:
Dach is an impressive prospect. He has as much potential as anyone in this draft year IMO but also has hurdles he has to overcome that he may never.

IQ and talent is easily on a top PP unit with any respectable work ethic.

Have watched a tonne of video lately (because i could care less about garbage time for the Canucks) and have seen the WHL guys live at least a few times except Krebs. Kakko Podkolzin Hughes live as well as video and just video for Turcotte Boldy Newhook and Zegras so it is what it is....a poorly educated opinion as far as orders but this is how i feel currently.

1- Jack Hughes - i'm really curious to see this going forward and i believe how Quinn looks may have some bearing on the unique style that the brothers play and my opinion of it. I would actually be a little nervous based on how week he is and how he is gonna be able to get to the prime scoring areas especially as a centre. Could easily be a Kane/Gaudreau and have to believe that this is what the scouts see who are relentless in having him 1st overall (sticking with the consensus)

2- Kappo Kakko - was thoroughly impressed at the U20's and just continues to set the kind of standards that a front line all star forward would in Liiga play and in everything he's done to date. Somewhat of a cross between Rantanen and Landeskog for me and a beauty consolation prize in the lottery who is NHL ready.

3- Bowen Byram - Hard to find any flaws in this kids game that doesn't come with just a little more consistency and attention to detail defensively. Rielly/MacAvoy hybrid for me and could be as impactful long term as some of the best BC born defenseman to play the game. Probably 1 more year of junior then plug and play 1st pairing defender.

4- Kirby Dach - (See above) Watching some of his playoffs is just adding to my liking for this player. Dont see the skating issues as he can move well enough. Do get some of the acceleration concerns but when you watch Draisaitl Stone Getzlaf dominate with smarts IQ anticipation and tremendous ability to protect and outreach opponents and see Dach's shot i could see him as high as 3 if a team likes him enough.

5. Trevor Zegras - Love this guys talent. Off the charts hands and IQ offensively. Am still getting a feel for his overall game. reminds me of Doug Weight/Kyle Connor and could be 1LW if not a top centre.

6- Alex Turcotte - similar to Zegras but more refined and this is just my feeling but may be more of a 2c instead of a 1st liner which i feel Zegras could develop into. Both excellent bets and highly exciting and talented. Comp Dylan Larkin....not as fast

7. Dylan Cozens - Scouts seem a little higher on Cozens than i am. Dont see 1st line upside and has a bit of a questionable IQ and quickness of the stick. Other than that though a excellent skater with a great shot and big frame. See him as a Jeff Carter type if all goes well which is an excellent addition just not a 1st liner on a really good team without turning into Bergeron defensively.

8. Matthew Boldy - kid has made some huge strides physically this year and has a massive upside because of it. Would have questioned his skating earlier but not from what i've seen recently. Has a wicked shot and can power or finesse through defenseman as well has good vision and size/strength. Very close to Cozens for me. Working on more viewing to clear up my feelings on the USDP guys.

9. Vasily Podkolzin - Only have him here due to consensus and old viewings where he dominated against kids. Was not impressed at the U20s. Seems like a well rounded solid player without a standout quality. Scouts like him a lot? things drop a bit for me at 8 so here he is at 9.

10. Payton Krebs - a lot to like about this player but then you look at his stats and see -50 and 19goals and start to wonder why the hell would anyone rate him so high?
He has really made some leaps in development and seems to have a lot of pro like traits but at 5'11 without elite skills you wonder what is the upside and why would he rate higher than a guy like Caufield who scores at an alarming rate. Unfortunately i didnt get to see a tonne of Krebs this year but his IQ overall game tempo and playmaking are excellent and still is top10 for me as he looks like he could be Jaden Schwartz for someone. Really risky pick

Hoping at worst we are top8 and can get one of the top8 i posted. Team desperately needs some speed skill power game up front and if Boldy or Cozens are whats left then i would be pretty satisfied. Anything else i would consider a bonus. Still almost 3months to pick it apart.
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Oilers fan here, great list and summaries. I agree with pretty much all of that. I'm not as high on Podkolzin and Cozens as much as most.
 
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JanBulisPiggyBack

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Who in this draft aside from Kakko is most ready to play in the NHL next year?

Not that I believe that’s who the Canucks will target but it wouldn’t surprise me if they took that into consideration
 
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Im really high on Soderstrom, Cozens and Turcotte after the top 3 of Kakko Hughes Byram. I think those 3 are slightly better than Zegras Boldy Dach Krebs.

Cozens Turcotte are both great skaters and drive play Moreso than the other forwards
 
Oliewud

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Boldy looks good. Turcotte as well but his shot may need work
 
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Really wouldn't mind getting our hands on Alex Turcotte either. Can play any style game and is full of grit and character to go with speed and skill.

Canucks should be able to get a good forward in the top 10 as long as Benning doesnt reach for a defenceman.
 
Zombotron

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Where do you guys have Ville Heinola ranked, and would it be a bad move to take him inside the top 12

 
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Askel

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Im not a fan of Soderstrom, I hope the Canucks stay away. To me he has to little high upside traits, he will probably be a NHL d-man but I don't think he will be a difference maker. I think Broberg has higher upside, though I wouldn't pick any of them before 15, Broberg is to risky and Soderstrom feels like bottom half of the first round pick.

this is based on my viewings here in Sweden, and maybe I haven't seen any of the enough. Byram looks like the d-man to go after depending on were the Canucks end up picking.
 
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Looks like a great year to draft a top end forward in the first round and we certainly could use more of them.Assuming we don't win a lottery spot and Byram is gone,Zegras,Boldy,Cozens,Turcotte and Krebs,in more or less that order,are all players I'd be down the drafting.Dach I'm not super high on and iPod is too risky with the Russian factor.
 
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Boldy is personally my boy. Would bolster that LW side, and I have him ranked as my third favourite prospect in this draft after Hughes/Kakko

Wouldn't complain at Byram but I see him going top 5 and I don't think we pick there. Boldy might still be available at 7-9
 
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Bitz and Bites said:
Looks like a great year to draft a top end forward in the first round and we certainly could use more of them.Assuming we don't win a lottery spot and Byram is gone,Zegras,Boldy,Cozens,Turcotte and Krebs,in more or less that order,are all players I'd be down the drafting.Dach I'm not super high on and iPod is too risky with the Russian factor.
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I would love to pick up Byram high in the draft, and also acquire a mid-1st round pick and snag one of Kaliyev or Newhook. Kaliyev is very underrated
 

JanBulisPiggyBack

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This draft feels eerily like the Pettersson draft where you can take either Mittlestadt, Vilardi, Petterrson, Glass or Hope Makar drops to you
 
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