2019 NHL Draft, Pt. II

[y2kcanucks]

This draft feels eerily like the Pettersson draft where you can take either Mittlestadt, Vilardi, Petterrson, Glass or Hope Makar drops to you

I can see Turcotte being the Pettersson of this draft.

 

[Fire Benning]

This draft seems similar to the 2017 draft where the top 2 seems certain but there's some debate as to who will go 1st overall while the rest of the top 10 is completely up in the air.

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

I can see Turcotte being the Pettersson of this draft.

His name keeps coming up on these boards, I’ll start reading scouting reports, but to share with all the posters, who like me, could use a little info shared on here if somebody doesn’t mind

 

[VanJack]

Dylan Cozens and Kirby Dach might be on the board when the Canucks draft.....my only concern is the Canucks dismal record of finding players in the WHL. But I defer to the scouts and WHL-watchers, who view these players a lot more than I do.

 

[y2kcanucks]

His name keeps coming up on these boards, I’ll start reading scouting reports, but to share with all the posters, who like me, could use a little info shared on here if somebody doesn’t mind

Fast skater, very skilled. Was injured to start the season which hurt his stock, but in 30 games he's put up 23 goals and 53 points for the USNTDP. Committed to the University of Wisconsin. I have him ranked 4th behind Byram.

 

[Fire Benning]

Not too sure what to make of Dach, he's superbly talented but seems to have issues with being overly lackadaisical and his even strength production is bit concerning. Seems like he could be a high risk/reward pick.

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

I’m gonna come out and say something wildly unpopular and horrible convoluted. I’m not scared to go against the grain here but I know I’ll be called out for this, but I’m brave enough to paddle upstream on this one

*deep breathe*

I want Jim Benning fires and to win the lottery

Omg that felt so good to finally come out

Ok come at me people

 

[pahlsson]

I’m gonna come out and say something wildly unpopular and horrible convoluted. I’m not scared to go against the grain here but I know I’ll be called out for this, but I’m brave enough to paddle upstream on this one

*deep breathe*

I want Jim Benning fires and to win the lottery

Omg that felt so good to finally come out

Ok come at me people

Very brave, thank you

 

[VIPettersson]

I’m gonna come out and say something wildly unpopular and horrible convoluted. I’m not scared to go against the grain here but I know I’ll be called out for this, but I’m brave enough to paddle upstream on this one

*deep breathe*

I want Jim Benning fires and to win the lottery

Omg that felt so good to finally come out

Ok come at me people

didn't realize he was also an arsonist? :/

 

[sting101]

I’m gonna come out and say something wildly unpopular and horrible convoluted. I’m not scared to go against the grain here but I know I’ll be called out for this, but I’m brave enough to paddle upstream on this one

*deep breathe*

I want Jim Benning fires and to win the lottery

Omg that felt so good to finally come out

Ok come at me people

Are Jim Benning fires when your brain thinks something is good but its really not?

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

Jim Benning presents the Fyre Festival with big names like Jussi Jokinen, Ja Rule and Brandon Prust..... swim in the ocean with Linden Vey !!!!!

 

[thefeebster]

Where would you slot Podkolzin?

Not as Vancouver either, imagine we're Pittsburgh or Washington and would have no problem getting him to come over....based purely on talent/projection where do you have him?

I think he's #3 but I would completely understand if he's outside the Canucks top 10.

Top 5 based on talent, but i still fear the Russian factor unlike a lot here. So i would hesitate a bit if he was there for us, plus the lackluster stats away from int'l play and he reminds me so much of Yakupov at the same age. But i love his IQ, motor and pace. You just can't help but notice him on the ice.

Im not a fan of Soderstrom, I hope the Canucks stay away. To me he has to little high upside traits, he will probably be a NHL d-man but I don't think he will be a difference maker. I think Broberg has higher upside, though I wouldn't pick any of them before 15, Broberg is to risky and Soderstrom feels like bottom half of the first round pick.

this is based on my viewings here in Sweden, and maybe I haven't seen any of the enough. Byram looks like the d-man to go after depending on were the Canucks end up picking.

Nice to have a swedish take. I like Soderstrom, but probably not as much as some here. His ability to play good minutes in the SHL is impressive. Reminds me a lot of Ty Smith. Seems like a solid top 4 but likely not a difference maker. I wouldn't mind him, but i prefer Broberg based on what i've seen so far, but i haven't watched him much in the Allsvenskan. I am not sure where this concern of major IQ issues came into play (mentioned by others here), what is the source of it? He was an absolute stud defensively at the Hlinka, i went through every shift he had there with IQ concerns in mind and it was solid there. I can count on one hand the number of mistakes he made there. Some say he one-dimensionally rushes the puck, but i have even more clips of his passes. Easier to tame a lion than teach a timid player to rush more. I also did the same at the WJC, he played 20 minutes the whole tourney. I'm really curious how they'll stack up at the U18s.

His name keeps coming up on these boards, I’ll start reading scouting reports, but to share with all the posters, who like me, could use a little info shared on here if somebody doesn’t mind

The engine of his line, high motor. He's a very complete player, more playmaker than shooter. But he knows he needs to work on his shot, his attitude reminds me of PLD during his draft year, a true pro who is willing to continually learn/work on his skills. A high end playmaker, but not elite. Probably the most annoying thing about him is a blind pass to the slot he does too often. Easy top 5 in this draft. Ppl throw out a lot of player comparisons for this player, i've seen Crosby to Datsyuk, but i think Point is a better stylistic comparison.

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

Feebster why are you not employed by the Canucks and used as a scout. I’d say you are pretty bloody good at what you do

 

[Bitz and Bites]

I would love to pick up Byram high in the draft, and also acquire a mid-1st round pick and snag one of Kaliyev or Newhook. Kaliyev is very underrated

I think we'd need to win the #3 lottery pick to have a chance to draft Byram but that could be a huge win for the organization.

I'm in favor of taking a swing for fences pick if we could snag an extra first but I would be really hesitant to take Kaliyev due to his compete level issues.I think that's something that's innate and can't really be fixed and usually dooms a player's NHL chances.Goldobin is a good example of this as was Zach Hamill from last season.
I'd rather take a chance on a player who needs time to mature physically like a Pettersson or Madden.

I'd be fine with Newhook somewhere after #20 although the odds of Benning being able to acquire an extra 1st round pick are about the same as the Canucks winning the cup next season.

 

[Fatass]

I think we'd need to win the #3 lottery pick to have a chance to draft Byram but that could be a huge win for the organization.

I'm in favor of taking a swing for fences pick if we could snag an extra first but I would be really hesitant to take Kaliyev due to his compete level issues.I think that's something that's innate and can't really be fixed and usually dooms a player's NHL chances.Goldobin is a good example of this as was Zach Hamill from last season.
I'd rather take a chance on a player who needs time to mature physically like a Pettersson or Madden.

I'd be fine with Newhook somewhere after #20 although the odds of Benning being able to acquire an extra 1st round pick are about the same as the Canucks winning the cup next season.

Definetly Byram goes top three. Who’s the little guy in the USDL that is so very gifted? He might be a guy to take a chance on if we are drafting outside the top 7.

 

[Bitz and Bites]

Definetly Byram goes top three. Who’s the little guy in the USDL that is so very gifted? He might be a guy to take a chance on if we are drafting outside the top 7.

You thinking of Cole Caufield? he's a sniper like Debrincat who will likely be available at our spot as he's projected to go in the teens.He's something like 5'7 so definitely on shorter side but quick and smart.

 

[TruKnyte]

You thinking of Cole Caufield? he's a sniper like Debrincat who will likely be available at our spot as he's projected to go in the teens.He's something like 5'7 so definitely on shorter side but quick and smart.

Man that's small. Have to be like Martin St. Louis to stay in the league, can't see someone that size playing an effective checking role.

 

[bossram]

You thinking of Cole Caufield? he's a sniper like Debrincat who will likely be available at our spot as he's projected to go in the teens.He's something like 5'7 so definitely on shorter side but quick and smart.

If we keep ruining our tank position, I would be very happy with a Caulfield pick around ~10 or so.

Man that's small. Have to be like Martin St. Louis to stay in the league, can't see someone that size playing an effective checking role.

That wouldn't matter much to me. I can't fathom why you'd be selecting in the top-10 and be thinking about whether the kid can play a "checking role". You can find those guys anywhere. And lord knows the Canucks, in particular, have enough meh "checking" players.

 

[TruKnyte]

If we keep ruining our tank position, I would be very happy with a Caulfield pick around ~10 or so.



That wouldn't matter much to me. I can't fathom why you'd be selecting in the top-10 and be thinking about whether the kid can play a "checking role". You can find those guys anywhere. And lord knows the Canucks, in particular, have enough meh "checking" players.

That's part of my point, he'd be a boom or bust type prospect.

 

[Fire Benning]

This seems like a pretty weak draft, most of the top 10 seems like what would normally be the 10-20 range.

My top 10 right now is:

1. Kakko
2. Hughes
3. Turcotte
4. Byram
5. Zegras
6. Podkolzin
7. Cozens
8. Dach
9. Boldy
10. Newhook

 

[Fraser28]

Am I right in that if we're not in the Top 4 or so, then it's likely not that big of a deal falling to something like #8 or 9?

 

[Oliewud]

This seems like a pretty weak draft, most of the top 10 seems like what would normally be the 10-20 range.

My top 10 right now is:

1. Kakko
2. Hughes
3. Turcotte
4. Byram
5. Zegras
6. Podkolzin
7. Cozens
8. Dach
9. Boldy
10. Newhook

Really? I feel like the top 10 is stacked...

 

[Bitz and Bites]

Am I right in that if we're not in the Top 4 or so, then it's likely not that big of a deal falling to something like #8 or 9?

The only chance we have to be in the top 3 is with a lottery win.Best possible scenario after that is we lose out the season and have BUF/NYR/ANA/EDM basically win out their last games to pass us plus the bottom 4 teams all win the lottery picks.If that happened we could draft as high as 5 but it would be miracle if all three of those scenarios happened.
Worst case is we pick up more points and pass CHI and two or three teams above us win the lottery spots and we could drop as far back as #14 but that's very unlikely as well.Odds are we stay pretty much where we are and maybe drop one spot due to the lottery and have pick #10.

I think the draft starts to fall off right around that point so hopefully a team or two drafting before us reaches for a D-man or a player rated in the teens and leaves one of the choice forwards on the board.

 

[thefeebster]

Feebster why are you not employed by the Canucks and used as a scout. I’d say you are pretty bloody good at what you do

Lol, thanks, but i'm just someone with an opinion and too much time on my hands. Although i'm pretty sure i'm going to retire this year, i wouldn't mind starting to do it more seriously.

Am I right in that if we're not in the Top 4 or so, then it's likely not that big of a deal falling to something like #8 or 9?

Canuck luck has us mentally preparing ourselves for our eventual drop but yeah, i'd say the group of the next 10 players is fairly even after that point.

 

[CanucksSTM]

For my opinion..
1-2 Elite
3-9 really good
10-... Only time will tell