2019 NHL Draft, Pt. II

[lawrence]

Dach would be a good pick in the 5-8 range, although his acceleration is a question mark, if that's something that can be "easily" fixed (ex Horvat), he could be a great pick in that range.

If the Canucks pick in the 5-10 range they need to swing for the fences and pick the player who has the highest ceiling regardless of floor. I've said it before here, and I'll say it again, Cole Caufield is the player I hope they target. Yes, he's small but he's a feisty player who has a high end motor and is very smart at finding where to go to score. A quicker Debrincat is what I see.

what about Boldy? dude has Datsyuk like maneuvers and is 6'2.

 

[The Drop]

Button thinks Zegras is like Pettersson. Please stop already. He thought Pettersson was like Johansen

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

what about Boldy? dude has Datsyuk like maneuvers and is 6'2.

I haven't dived into him just yet. I'm just getting into the internet scouting of this draft class.

From what iveI quickly read he sounds nice.

 

[MS]

his grittiness can help. the same with Dach. He's kinda like a Kesler/Benn nastiness.

Krebs has some jam but Dach is not gritty ... at all.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Button thinks Zegras is like Pettersson. Please stop already. He thought Pettersson was like Johansen

Zegras is likely the most skilled prospect on the board after the top2.

Not a Pettersson, no, but relative to the picks around him, that’s his edge.

 

[sandwichbird2023]

This talk of picking #8-10 is nonsense, Benning doesn't have time to sit and wait for 2-3 years for a crapshoot prospect to develop. The draft is in Vancouver and Aquilini wants to make a splash and Hughes is his guy.

1st + Horvat for #1
or
1st 2019 + 1st 2020 + Demko + for #1

Get ready for it, it will happen, just depends on which team wins the lottery to see how big the deal will get. Best case scenario, Canucks get the #2 pick and a team with a #1 C that needs a young goalie like the Oilers/Panthers/Sabres win the lottery.

I would be furious if we do either of the deal. Deal #1 is a huge gamble to me, but deal #2 is worse especially if it is unprotected 1st of 2020. This team will again be a bottom 5 team next season and there are lots of high end talent in the 2020 draft.

 

[ginner classic]

Krebs has some jam but Dach is not gritty ... at all.

Logan Brown clone.

 

[Tryamkin]

Button thinks Zegras is like Pettersson. Please stop already. He thought Pettersson was like Johansen

They do have a similar shifty style of play with the sleight movements and handsy creativity. I don't mind that comparison tbh.

 

[Soups On]

Do any of you believe Turcotte will fall to 7/8?

 

[4Twenty]

From what I gather, Dach has skating issues that may hold him back. Doesn't have a good first step and doesn't play the game at the tempo that many would want from a top prospect

Remember having similar sentiments about Draisatl. Don't want to make that mistake again.

Krebs has some jam but Dach is not gritty ... at all.

I'm trying to think back to Ryan Johansen in the WHL and I don't remember him being super gritty, but I see a very similar skill set and the same sort of passivity to shooting the puck.

Meant to also quote the post about Logan Brown...Dach skates way better, IMO.

 

[Hockeyphysio]

Do any of you believe Turcotte will fall to 7/8?

That seems like it would be a good pick for us. I don't really understand (just based on his stats) why he isnt ranked higher

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

Do any of you believe Turcotte will fall to 7/8?

I think the top 5 likely includes
Hughes, Kakko, Byram, Cozens, Podkolzin.

Leaving Turcotte, Zegras, Dach, Boldy, Krebs.

Canucks will get a very good prospect in the 6-10 range, even the 6-12 range with Caufield being in that range too

 

[Fire Benning]

Anyone have ideas on who the Canucks should take with their 2nd round pick? (probably in the 37-40 range)

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

Anyone have ideas on who the Canucks should take with their 2nd round pick? (probably in the 37-40 range)

So hard to predict who will be available, usually the players I end up liking get picked in the mid to late first round as risers.

Nolan Foote if available could be a good pick if available.

Brayden Tracey is having a great year in Moose Jaw, and someone that is worth a look.

Lassi Thomson is a right shot offensive dman playing for the Kelowna Rockets who are known for developing Dmen. 17 goals this year.

 

[timw33]

Krebs has some jam but Dach is not gritty ... at all.

Caught Dach against the Royals earlier this year and wasn't even close to looking like a top-5 pick. Just playing in cruise control and barely got involved in the play unless he had the puck.

 

[Quinning]

Lassi Thomson would be a great pick.

 

[Peter10]

I would be furious if we do either of the deal. Deal #1 is a huge gamble to me, but deal #2 is worse especially if it is unprotected 1st of 2020. This team will again be a bottom 5 team next season and there are lots of high end talent in the 2020 draft.

Agreed, the top 4-5 in 2020 might even be better than Hughes alone.

 

[The Iron Goalie]

Lassi Thomson would be a great pick.

Agreed. Tobias Bjornfot, and Mikko Kokkonen would also be great picks in the 2nd.

 

[Cupless44]

I think the top 5 likely includes
Hughes, Kakko, Byram, Cozens, Podkolzin.

Leaving Turcotte, Zegras, Dach, Boldy, Krebs.

Canucks will get a very good prospect in the 6-10 range, even the 6-12 range with Caufield being in that range too

I am happy with any of the 2nd five players you list. Just hope Jimbo doesnt pull a Juolevi and reach for Soderstrom. This team needs a decent top 6 forward as much as anything.

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

I am happy with any of the 2nd five players you list. Just hope Jimbo doesnt pull a Juolevi and reach for Soderstrom. This team needs a decent top 6 forward as much as anything.

Byram is the only D that I like in the top 10.

 

[4Twenty]

Lassi Thomson would be a great pick.

I disagree. He's one of the oldest players who is available for the first time, his offense isn't great and his defense isn't great. Jack of all, master of none.

In the 3rd round I could be convinced, but not in the 2nd.

 

[Cupless44]

Byram is the only D that I like in the top 10.

Same

 

[Mr Plow]

Pretty similar to mine:

1. Hughes
2. Kaako
3. Byram
4. Cozens
5. Podkolzin
6. Turcotte
7. Zegras
8. Caufield
9/10/11. McMichael/Newhook/Boldy

- I'm quite surprised someone would have Pelletier over Caufield despite the two inches Caufield is giving up there. Caufield's goal scoring numbers are completely mental and he's doing it against very strong competition. 6 goals and 3 assists in his last 4 games against good college programs U.S. National Under-17 Team - 2017-18 Regular Season - Roster - #59 - Cole Caufield - F

- You don't like Podkolzin and I don't like Dach
I know I'm being unreasonable about him because he is clearly talented, there's just too much gentle giant in his game for me to really rate him.

- As for the Brett Leason discussion, I don't think top 10 is unreasonable. He produces at an obviously elite rate despite being probably the least skilled guy in my top 15. Considering he only really has 40 games of draft-able play under his belt I would have a hard time taking his elite production over any of the 7-8 elite skill guys in this draft, with the exception of maybe Dach.

Revisiting my list from two months ago, I would move Turcotte up a couple spots to #4. He's been very impressive since returning from injury and is more proven now than at the time.

Boldy has distanced himself a little from Newhook and McMichael in my mind. He's good enough away from the puck that it makes up for his lack of dynamism. Good size, good skating, good jam, good shot, good defensive play, decent passer... Just missing that little stroke of genius from going in the top five.

I feel even more justified for having Caufield in my top 10 while leaving Dach out. Caufield hasn't been as consistent as earlier in the year but if you're scoring 6 goals in a single game that can be forgiven. Dach on the other hand has really fallen off since his hot start. He is still a high reward guy so I wouldn't hate the pick if that's who we end up taking, I just don't trust players like him who glide around waiting for the play to come to them. If we're going to take someone like that I would prefer Kaliyev.

As far as Krebs is concerned, I'm still not a fan. For me he is the anti-Dach. I love the way he plays, he leaves it all on the ice every night for a horrible team and never seems to have anything bad to say. My concerns stem from his lack of distinguishable NHL skills. He strikes me as the kind of player Gillis would have coveted: center, captain, strong leadership, good all around game, etc. I think GM's can get in to trouble with those types of guys though if they don't have the tools to dominate at the next level. For me Krebs projects as a pretty safe #3C/#2LW with a ceiling of a guy like Kadri. I like that player around #15-20 but I'd rather gamble on talent inside the top 10.

New top 10:

1) Hughes (-)
2) Kakko (-)
3) Byram (-)
4) Turcotte (+2)
5) Cozens (-1)
6) Podkolzin (-1)
7) Zegras (-)
8) Caufield (-)
9) Boldy (+2)
10) McMichael (-1)

 

[Cancuks]

I like Podkolzin, might end up being the best offensive player in the draft, and he will go to either LA or NYR IMO. Big market team that can convince him to leave the KHL when his contract is up. Edmonton will choose Connor McMichael just so they can play him with Connor McDavid.

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

I feel even more justified for having Caufield in my top 10 while leaving Dach out. Caufield hasn't been as consistent as earlier in the year but if you're scoring 6 goals in a single game that can be forgiven.

The more I watch Caufield the more I like his game. He may be small but he doesn't play it. Hes not afraid to go into the corners and dig out pucks and is smart enough to when to attack the net with his speed.