2019 NHL Draft, Pt. II

[lawrence]

Perhaps I'm wrong when I say this; but if we are picking in the 8-10 range, isnt it only possible to drop 1 spot (to a team that wins the lottery)?

I keep seeing this rhetoric of dropping 2 or 3 spots while I was under the impression that most shuffling is the top 5 (because many teams can win the lottery behind).

I am praying we can be this years Carolina, or Philly and move up into the top 3.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Rebuilding team. Home draft.

How does this team not have 3-4 more picks in the 1st/2nd/3rd rounds? It feels like this is one of the few crappy teams not to be able to do it. Year after year.

Because this isn't a rebuilding team.

 

[ginner classic]

He’s a good WHL skater. But basically every top-9 NHL forward was a high-end skater at lower levels. Neither his speed nor his edgework is truly dynamic and if he reaches the NHL they won’t set him apart.

And he’s small and doesn’t project as a high-level goalscorer.

To me he looks like a guy who might be an OK #2 center someday. And if you got that at pick #23 or something, great. But this is not a top-10 talent even in a weak draft.

On the surface yes....but it's not like players with his profile have never turned into impact NHLers. Mike Richards has been brought up before. He is fair game at 9 or later IMO.

 

[Cupless44]

This team needs a top 6 forward so bad . They have been shut out 10 times in 76 games. that is 13.1% of there games they have not scored a goal wow!!!

Most times shut out in the NHL over the past 4 years at 37. Next closest team is 26.

 

[MS]

On the surface yes....but it's not like players with his profile have never turned into impact NHLers. Mike Richards has been brought up before. He is fair game at 9 or later IMO.

There have been a ton of guys with this profile since Mike Richards who didn’t turn into Mike Richards and who didn’t go top-10.

Sam Steel went 30th, as an example.

 

[TruGr1t]

I am praying we can be this years Carolina, or Philly and move up into the top 3.

This would be fantastic. But there is a part of me that winces at the fact there would be a fairly chunky part of the fan base and media that would somehow find a way to applaud Benning for his genius if it happened.

"See! We played meaningful games in March AND got a top three pick. Brilliant plan!"

 

[ginner classic]

There have been a ton of guys with this profile since Mike Richards who didn’t turn into Mike Richards and who didn’t go top-10.

Sam Steel went 30th, as an example.

Yep. I know. I am just saying the rest of the prospects from 9 on are not exactly shooting the lights out.

 

[Disappointed EP40]

I am praying we can be this years Carolina, or Philly and move up into the top 3.

Ideal draft:

 

[Disappointed EP40]

Most times shut out in the NHL over the past 4 years at 37. Next closest team is 26.

Yikes. Great stat for my pro JB brother though.

 

[4Twenty]

There have been a ton of guys with this profile since Mike Richards who didn’t turn into Mike Richards and who didn’t go top-10.

Sam Steel went 30th, as an example.

How would you compare him to McCann? I definitely think McCann is a closer skating comparison than Steel, who I don't think has anywhere near the same skating strengths.

 

[MS]

How would you compare him to McCann? I definitely think McCann is a closer skating comparison than Steel, who I don't think has anywhere near the same skating strengths.

McCann was a lot more explosive skater at the same age. And a bit bigger. And had a better shot.

But still went 15 picks later than we’re talking about Krebs.

Like, I don’t think Krebs is a bad prospect and he should probably go in the first round. I’m just perplexed at how he’s being talked about at #8-10 overall pick when his skillset has consistently graded out in the 20-30 range in the past.

 

[MS]

Yep. I know. I am just saying the rest of the prospects from 9 on are not exactly shooting the lights out.

Which is why I’d trade up or down or take a swing for the fences in Caufield in that spot.

Would be extremely disappointing to me to come away with a player like Krebs who would be a 20-30 pick most years after suffering through another disaster season.

 

[4Twenty]

McCann was a lot more explosive skater at the same age. And a bit bigger. And had a better shot.

But still went 15 picks later than we’re talking about Krebs.

Like, I don’t think Krebs is a bad prospect and he should probably go in the first round. I’m just perplexed at how he’s being talked about at #8-10 overall pick when his skillset has consistently graded out in the 20-30 range in the past.

Just so you know, I'm not advocating for Krebs at our pick.

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[Josepho]

I really don't understand why anyone would want Krebs over Dach or Kaliyev, who have high-end strength and intelligence.

 

[Cupless44]

I really don't understand why anyone would want Krebs over Dach or Kaliyev, who have high-end strength and intelligence.

Dach seems to be a faller. I think Button has him at 15. Button often goes off the grid but Dach's second half of the season was not very impressive.

 

[Josepho]

Dach seems to be a faller. I think Button has him at 15. Button often goes off the grid but Dach's second half of the season was not very impressive.

From what I've read on the matter speculation seems to be that Dach hasn't exactly been his healthiest in the second half of the season either.

But in the first half of the season he gave off that Draisaitl/Vilardi vibe of being ridiculously tough to take off the puck and being able to find open linemates.

The upside he has is easily worth the risk if we're comparing him to one of these two-way "works hard" kinda guys in Krebs.

I also think he's better than Cozens but I can see why others wouldn't.

 

[Bleach Clean]

McCann was a lot more explosive skater at the same age. And a bit bigger. And had a better shot.

But still went 15 picks later than we’re talking about Krebs.

Like, I don’t think Krebs is a bad prospect and he should probably go in the first round. I’m just perplexed at how he’s being talked about at #8-10 overall pick when his skillset has consistently graded out in the 20-30 range in the past.

Nothing too perplexing, Krebs is a far better playmaker than McCann is/was.

I'm not advocating a top10 ranking for Krebs BTW.

 

[Fatass]

McCann was a lot more explosive skater at the same age. And a bit bigger. And had a better shot.

But still went 15 picks later than we’re talking about Krebs.

Like, I don’t think Krebs is a bad prospect and he should probably go in the first round. I’m just perplexed at how he’s being talked about at #8-10 overall pick when his skillset has consistently graded out in the 20-30 range in the past.

And Pastrnack went after McCann. It be ones like a crap shoot outside of the top few guys. Even then, those top guys can jump one another, as they develop.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

This talk of picking #8-10 is nonsense, Benning doesn't have time to sit and wait for 2-3 years for a crapshoot prospect to develop. The draft is in Vancouver and Aquilini wants to make a splash and Hughes is his guy.

1st + Horvat for #1
or
1st 2019 + 1st 2020 + Demko + for #1

Get ready for it, it will happen, just depends on which team wins the lottery to see how big the deal will get. Best case scenario, Canucks get the #2 pick and a team with a #1 C that needs a young goalie like the Oilers/Panthers/Sabres win the lottery.

No chance I trade Horvat plus a top ten pick for Hughes. I'd do the 2nd deal easily though.

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

Dach seems to be a faller. I think Button has him at 15. Button often goes off the grid but Dach's second half of the season was not very impressive.

From what I gather, Dach has skating issues that may hold him back. Doesn't have a good first step and doesn't play the game at the tempo that many would want from a top prospect

 

[lawrence]

I would love to have Krebs. some on this forum thinks he's a top 5 pick.

 

[Cupless44]

I would love to have Krebs. some on this forum thinks he's a top 5 pick.

I think he will be a better player in the NHL than some on here think. Solidly in most draft sources top 10.

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

I would love to have Krebs. some on this forum thinks he's a top 5 pick.

3-10 lists will look drastically different depending on the source. Not much separating them and it'll come down to preferences.

 

[lawrence]

3-10 lists will look drastically different depending on the source. Not much separating them and it'll come down to preferences.

his grittiness can help. the same with Dach. He's kinda like a Kesler/Benn nastiness.

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

his grittiness can help. the same with Dach. He's kinda like a Kesler/Benn nastiness.

Dach would be a good pick in the 5-8 range, although his acceleration is a question mark, if that's something that can be "easily" fixed (ex Horvat), he could be a great pick in that range.

If the Canucks pick in the 5-10 range they need to swing for the fences and pick the player who has the highest ceiling regardless of floor. I've said it before here, and I'll say it again, Cole Caufield is the player I hope they target. Yes, he's small but he's a feisty player who has a high end motor and is very smart at finding where to go to score. A quicker Debrincat is what I see.