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OT: 2019 Football Thread: Part II – Free Agency and The Draft

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Rangerfan4life90 said:
Maybe I'm naive, but I believe him. Golden Tate isn't a POS, he's been a model NFL citizen since he entered the league.

Plus, he did self-report it.
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Did he self-report before or after the test? Because if he self-reported after getting tested, he could have realized he was going to fail and decided to go the "family planning" route. All he said was he self-reported before the failed result came out.

Either way, if he's taking fertility medication and didn't get it cleared against the banned substances list beforehand, that's a massive fail. Fertility drugs amount to hormone therapy. It doesn't take a genius to figure that maybe, just maybe, hormone therapy could lead to a failed drug test.
 
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nyr2k2 said:
Did he self-report before or after the test? Because if he self-reported after getting tested, he could have realized he was going to fail and decided to go the "family planning" route. All he said was he self-reported before the failed result came out.

Either way, if he's taking fertility medication and didn't get it cleared against the banned substances list beforehand, that's a massive fail. Fertility drugs amount to hormone therapy. It doesn't take a genius to figure that maybe, just maybe, hormone therapy could lead to a failed drug test.
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This is why I don't think the league softens up much on it with regards to an appeal. The "I didn't know" angle is generally not accepted.
 
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Bob Richards said:
This is why I don't think the league softens up much on it with regards to an appeal. The "I didn't know" angle is generally not accepted.
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It’s the same excuse from 90% of the players and it never gets overturned outside of Ryan Braun who admitted he did it but got it overturned by the lab mishandling the sample or something. It doesn’t matter if Tate knew or didn’t know that it was banned. Maybe it should matter but that’s never how it works it’s more of just a did you take it/did you not take it thing. Regardless barring an emergency the fact that any player takes anything without checking to make sure it’s cleared with the league first is absurd.
 
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SA16 said:
It’s the same excuse from 90% of the players and it never gets overturned outside of Ryan Braun who admitted he did it but got it overturned by the lab mishandling the sample or something. It doesn’t matter if Tate knew or didn’t know that it was banned. Maybe it should matter but that’s never how it works it’s more of just a did you take it/did you not take it thing. Regardless barring an emergency the fact that any player takes anything without checking to make sure it’s cleared with the league first is absurd.
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I think you have the Ryan Braun case backwards. He got it overturned on a technicality but then after a huge innocence act wound up having to admit it and took a 65 game suspension. He is a lying dirtbag for the way he acted. Aaron Rodgers is also a dirtbag for betting his salary that Braun was innocent and welching on the bet. Why can't baseball players just admit it and move on like football players?
 
That's nice work from Douglas, he's not as good as he once was, but better than whatever the Jets were going to put at Center.
 
Yes we have a potential franchise QB in Darnold. Yes we have a dynamic game changing RB in Bell. Yes we have a defense led by Greg Williams that should wreck some bigtime havoc over opposing offenses this season. And yes I'm anticipating some big time improvement from Gang Green this year. Not sure they'll make the playoffs but I do believe they'll be in the hunt come late December which for any longtime Jet fan such as me, would be a welcome sight to see considering how dreadful a team we have been for the past 8 years or so.

But the real reason I am so hopeful that the Jets are really really headed in the right direction and why I am so hopeful that the dreary days of the past 8 years are over, is the hire of Joe Douglass. I don't know how we got him nor do I care but we did. And he IMO is the key for this team going forward.

I am 1000% convinced that he will be the reason us long suffering Jet faithful should feel that for the first time in what seems like forever, our team is not going to be the laughing stock of the league ever again. There will be no more "butt fumble" BS anymore under Joe Douglass's watch.

This signing of Kalil by itself shows how much more savvy and in tune with today's NFL Douglass is than any GM we have ever had at least in my recollection with the possible exception of when Parcells was buying the groceries for us back in the late 90's.

This may sound nuts but for the first time in my Jet fandom which stretches back to 1970 or so, I actually feel that sometime in my lifetime and I'll go as far as to say in the next 5-7 years, Douglass will make the right moves to get us into a Super Bowl if not win one. That statement alone would have never been uttered by me and has not been even thought about in almost a decade when we went to the AFC title game vs Steelers.

Seriously, I really believe we are in the right hands with Douglass leading us and by him being in charge, I think we are truly headed to some good times in the very near future beginning with this upcoming season.
 
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Anyone watch Hard Knocks tonight? I'm a bigtime junkie of the show...just love it and always look forward to it every year. Have to admit, I was a bit dissapointed in tonight's first episode tho. I'm a big Gruden fan and was hoping he'd be a bit more "Grudenlike" if you know what I mean. Maybe my expectations were too high as Gruden to me is as personable and funny as any coach on the planet. However, at least for tonight, there wasn't too much shit going on and other than a few funny lines, it was kind of boring to be honest.

Hopefully it will pick up. Though nothing will ever top the Jets Hard Knocks season back in 2010 as that was epic and still to this day the best Hard Knocks season ever but I really had some high hopes going in that Gruden could be as charismatic as Rexie was. As I said, just one episode in and I'm still hopeful that Gruden will show his true colors and that this year's version of Hard Knocks will end up being a great watch....fingers crossed
 
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