Prospect Info: 2019 Draft Thread: The Countdown - 2 days to go!

[nexttothemoon]

Best pick for the Oilers is Arthur Kaliyev.

He is exactly the player they need... great scorer... good size. Late birthdate as well.

Top 4 pick in this draft... easily the best choice for the Oilers at #8.

 

[Beerfish]

Best pick for the Oilers is Arthur Kaliyev.

He is exactly the player they need... great scorer... good size. Late birthdate as well.

Top 4 pick in this draft... easily the best choice for the Oilers at #8.

You'll probably get killed for stating that but I would have no big issue with that pick.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

The only thing with Kaliyev is if he's the Oilers pick, they should trade down to get him, get some value and their guy.

 

[The Safe Play]

The only thing with Kaliyev is if he's the Oilers pick, they should trade down to get him, get some value and their guy.

This is my ideal scenario. Seems like a great draft to trade down and grab someone that drops.

 

[Soli]

Wtf @Soli you just hijacked my draft countdown thread with this??? We were only at #594 posts and several days to go! Smh mods abusing their power

If anyone wants to know what comes after 4, ask Zaddy.

We're probably gonna fill this thread before Friday anyways, lied about the endgame. These threads will go on for infinity... wars.

 

[MessierII]

Don't look at the team. If anything the talent on the team is limiting is TOI and pp time. He generally plays on the 3rd line.

He has the making of a top line winger, who might be able to play center. He used to be a center, but because of Zegras/Hughes/Turcotte he played on the wing. He's a very similar player to Draisaitl. Great vision, hands, and solid shot as well. Both not great skaters. I really hope we get him.

Who in our range has a higher upside?

All of his teammates have higher upside IMO. Or the big WHL boys.

 

[Nostradumbass]

Big winger that is more of a passer but still owns a good shot. I really like his game, and it seems most of HFOil would be happy if he was the pick.

Unfortunately, I don't get the sense the Oilers are high on him. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Stauffer was dropping hints that the Oilers were looking hard at a forward from the USNTDP a few weeks back. Maybe he's just trying to muddy the waters now.

 

[McDNicks17]

Saw this over on the prospect board.

THP NHL DRAFT GUIDES - The Hockey Prospector

Free guide. Lots of information and some spicy rankings(Knight at 4!).

Has Upside, Floor, Comparable and a little blurb for 100 players.

 

[McFlash97]

Broberg is another big fast skating dman with peas for brains.

Oilers love to target low IQ hockey players in the 1st round. Its thier MO. Bob hypes these low IQ players on radio to get the juices flowing.

Stick to players who think the game at a high level.

Zegras, Dach, Caufield, Heinola etc

 

[Zaddy]

I don't think his shot is his best asset, both his hands and passing are better. He's very, very, dangerous offensively with the puck on his stick. I think you're underrating both his hands and hockey sense a fair bit, he can see plays very quickly in the offensive zone and I'd definitely describe his hands as elite. Combine that with a good shot and skating, and he's the total package offensively. I can see why others have him in their top-20 and even top-10...

..if you only look at his offense. He's very inconsistent and somewhere between useless and a liability on defense. His style of play is almost exclusively East/West and, while he does make some big hits, can be caught playing on the perimeter and avoiding driving to the net.

I'd look at him with our 2nd depending on who is available, and would take him with our 3rd without hesitation. Too much upside to go after that.

Hockey sense is certainly possible that I'm underrating as I mentioned, but my assessment on his hands/puck skills seems to be right, this is what HP's report says:

"Dorofeyev is an offensively-gifted player with exceptional hockey-sense and a great shot, but there isn’t a dynamic quality to his skill-set. He has a variety of dekes in his repertoire and is capable of pulling off high-end moves, but not as consistently as we would have liked to have seen. Furthermore, although he’s good at receiving sharp passes and making quick moves with his hands while stationary; he has shown that he can bobble the puck at a decent-rate when in motion. The impression his hands leave you with, is that when dealing with higher-end defenseman, he’s going to have some difficulty with his current puck-skills."

They're also not very high on his skating. I have him labelled as a "good skater" but not more than that. They also describe him as a sniper several times and put a heavy emphasis on his shot and how good it is in their scouting report on him. So safe to say they see it as his best quality as well, in addition to his hockey sense I guess.

 

[Llamamoto]

All of his teammates have higher upside IMO. Or the big WHL boys.

Boldy has higher upside than Cozens.

And Dach, Byram, Zegras, and Turcotte are all most likely gone by the time its our pick. So it's basically a choice between him and Caufield.

 

[MessierII]

Boldy has higher upside than Cozens.

And Dach, Byram, Zegras, and Turcotte are all most likely gone by the time its our pick. So it's basically a choice between him and Caufield.

Maybe, maybe not. This prospect group is tight. Could be some major variance between teams.

 

[Oilers in NS]

Oilers need wingers who can score in the worst way

Big time. Sure looks like there is lots of talent in draft but as usual, sometimes it is a crap shoot. Someone mentioned fellas like Dzingel, Connoly (Washington). Would it ever be nice to have some cap room right now. I can see SJ trading off a few players to sign Pavelski

 

[EmilSWE]

Thanks. How about defensively? How is he for his age?

He's defense can improve but he is young and i think playing in the Elite league next season is going to help him improve his game defensively. But like i said i should draft a forward if i was in charge. We need F more. Or maybe pick Broberg and then trade Bear/jones for a second rounder and pick Leason/Rees.

 

[Oilers in NS]

Saw this over on the prospect board.

THP NHL DRAFT GUIDES - The Hockey Prospector

Free guide. Lots of information and some spicy rankings(Knight at 4!).

Has Upside, Floor, Comparable and a little blurb for 100 players.

Great guide, reading now

 

[Stud Muffin]

Boldy has higher upside than Cozens.

And Dach, Byram, Zegras, and Turcotte are all most likely gone by the time its our pick. So it's basically a choice between him and Caufield.

I’d say Cozens has the higher upside, I could see him as a Scheifele if everything goes right and Boldy I see with a high floor

 

[Llamamoto]

I’d say Cozens has the higher upside, I could see him as a Scheifele if everything goes right and Boldy I see with a high floor

Boldy could become a Mark Stone with better hands and worse defense. And his likelihood to reach that ceiling is far higher than Cozens reaching Scheifele.

And Scheifele's hands and vision are both quite a bit better than Cozens.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Hockey sense is certainly possible that I'm underrating as I mentioned, but my assessment on his hands/puck skills seems to be right, this is what HP's report says:


They're also not very high on his skating. I have him labelled as a "good skater" but not more than that. They also describe him as a sniper several times and put a heavy emphasis on his shot and how good it is in their scouting report on him. So safe to say they see it as his best quality as well, in addition to his hockey sense I guess.

Regarding his puck skills, I've seen a number of impressive dekes and moves, but it could be the level of competition. The MHL is best described as "wild". Zero defensive structure.

I agree about the skating. His edges are good and he's strong on his feet, but his acceleration could use some work. His shot is pretty good, his wrist/snap shot in particular, but he needs to learn how to generate more power on one-timers and when he has limited time and space to release the puck. I find his passing more impressive.

Where would you draft him?

 

[Oilers in NS]

I predict the oilers move Benning and nurse in separate deals

I agree with ya on Benning but I don't want to on Nurse. I like him too much

 

[McDNicks17]

I’d say Cozens has the higher upside, I could see him as a Scheifele if everything goes right and Boldy I see with a high floor

With Boldy's hockey sense and vision, I'd say the sky is the limit.

I'd bet on those things over physical tools for upside, personally.

 

[Rufus Aslegard]

With Boldy's hockey sense and vision, I'd say the sky is the limit.

I'd bet on those things over physical tools for upside, personally.

How is Boldy's skating? He reminded me a bit of Gagner with his speed (not great). It seems to me that Boldy may play a bit slow (he takes a bit too much time to make decisions).

Having said that, he is faster when on his edges. He has a great back hand pass. He also likes to shoot and he will seek open ice.

 

[Llamamoto]

How is Boldy's skating? He reminded me a bit of Gagner with his skating (not great).

It's not great (although it has come a long way in the past couple years), but his size and the way he slows the game down sort of counteracts that. And looking at how much Drai has come with his skating, I would be confident Boldy (and Bouchard) can too.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Interesting podcast between Steve Kournianos and Larry Fisher.



They debate Broberg, Podkolzin, Bjornfot, and Spiridinov.

 

[Rufus Aslegard]

It's not great (although it has come a long way in the past couple years), but his size and the way he slows the game down sort of counteracts that. And looking at how much Drai has come with his skating, I would be confident Boldy (and Bouchard) can too.

I am not sure if it makes a difference, but there seems to me to be a distinct top 6 (Hughes, Kakko, Turcotte, Zegras, Dach, Byram). After that, there is a group of 3-4 (Krebs, Cozens, Boldy).

Then there are players with issues (Podkolzin - Russian, Caufield - size, Broberg - hockey IQ, lack of elite passing).

Then the next tier with Kaliyev, Soderstrom, etc.

Best to hope that one of the top 6 drops to 8. More than likely however, Oilers will get a choice of 2 from the Krebs, Cozens and Boldy group.

 

[Patch101]

Man, Oilers media and now Button all talking Broberg for edm.

That pick would tick me off. Maybe at 11 or something that would be ok.