Prospect Info: 2019 Draft Thread: The Countdown - 2 days to go!

[Oilers in NS]

He did suffer an achilles injury. In practice another player's skate blade cut into his achilles tendon. Luckily its not a full tear though. He'll probably be out for camp and the start of next season. That's why I now have Boldy and Caufield firmly ahead.

Gotcha. Very serious injury

 

[Raab]

I have no idea whether it was intentional or not.

But it's ridiculous when you're in here saying you're 99% sure it was intentional when you have no clue about the play, just doing that to try and prop up your ideal pick.

If Nurse made that shot you would be rambling on about how it was such a fluke.

My ideal pick would be Jack Hughes, and I have Boldy ahead on my list.... I’m just saying Broberg isn’t the end of the world if we pick him there.

 

[Ck1]

I wouldn’t be so sure that was his plan.

But you’ll bend everything to prop him up.

Of course he will because ChaoticOrange said in his previous post getting Broberg might fuel a nurse trade. And we all know how Raab feels about nurse

 

[Jumptheshark]

I predict the oilers move Benning and nurse in separate deals

 

[Zaddy]

Wtf @Soli you just hijacked my draft countdown thread with this??? We were only at #594 posts and several days to go! Smh mods abusing their power

 

[McFlyingV]

#10 could be a very interesting pick. Seen some highlites of him and he looks really good. I think some teams will be scared of the Russian factor for sure. He might not even come over for 2 years. This mirrors the Kuznetsov player in Washington, but he has sure worked out.
I'm not a Habs fan at all but one fella they should take at 15 is Lavoie. I have seen him play many times for Halifax. Great hands, great size, and French. He has to bring a better compete level every shift but if they can fix that, he will be good

It's much more than the Russian factor. He simply has not produced outside of the Hlinka tournament in the last year. His MHL and VHL numbers are worse than pretty much any Russian taken in the first round in the past decade. His offensive upside is a major question mark and red flag.

 

[EmilSWE]

I watch the Swedish league (Allsvenskan) a lot and Broberg is a good player but we desperately need wingers right now.

1. Draft one or two good forwards.
2. Pick Mattias Norlinder from Modo Hockey in the third round and it will be a steal!

 

[BertMcDrai]

Anyone think there is a chance Moritz Seider is the second defenceman taken? Or can I get some opinions?

I am no expert but he seems intriguing.

I am very high on him...he could definitely be the steal in the draft...I would also be lucky if we chose him as BPA...but we need forwards...so I don´t know if it´s the right move at this moment.

 

[Llamamoto]

It's much more than the Russian factor. He simply has not produced outside of the Hlinka tournament in the last year. His MHL and VHL numbers are worse than pretty much any Russian taken in the first round in the past decade. His offensive upside is a major question mark and red flag.

I'm not saying Podkolzin should go undrafted (obviously), but to put into perspective just how bad his numbers are, look at Amir Gareyev, a guy who will possibly go undrafted this year.

He has 59 points in 64 games. Podkolzin had 8 in 12. Obviously its a small sample size and all, but his failure to put up respectable points outside of 2 tournaments is a severe red flag. That, along with the Russian factor, the Oilers history with Russians, and the fact that he has a 2 year contract in Russia should definitely be enough to put him on our do not draft list.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Oilers need wingers who can score in the worst way

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

I watch the Swedish league (Allsvenskan) a lot and Broberg is a good player but we desperately need wingers right now.

1. Draft one or two good forwards.
2. Pick Mattias Norlinder from Modo Hockey in the third round and it will be a steal!

What are your thoughts on Broberg from what you've seen?

I'm not saying Podkolzin should go undrafted (obviously), but to put into perspective just how bad his numbers are, look at Amir Gareyev, a guy who will possibly go undrafted this year.

He has 59 points in 64 games. Podkolzin had 8 in 12. Obviously its a small sample size and all, but his failure to put up respectable points outside of 2 tournaments is a severe red flag. That, along with the Russian factor, the Oilers history with Russians, and the fact that he has a 2 year contract in Russia should definitely be enough to put him on our do not draft list.

The MHL is an awful, awful league. The talent level is decent but there is no structure and no systems in place.

 

[Oilers in NS]

It's much more than the Russian factor. He simply has not produced outside of the Hlinka tournament in the last year. His MHL and VHL numbers are worse than pretty much any Russian taken in the first round in the past decade. His offensive upside is a major question mark and red flag.

I think he will really drop. On the other hand, Detroit might take him. One never knows

 

[Oilers in NS]

Whats everyone think of Boldy? He could be around as well

Matthew Boldy Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Matthew Boldy at eliteprospects.com

 

[Oilers in NS]

Here is something not draft related. Lots of UFA's in San Jose not signed yet and money will run out. Could Holland possibly somehow talk Nyquist into signing in Edmonton?

 

[CycloneSweep]

Here is something not draft related. Lots of UFA's in San Jose not signed yet and money will run out. Could Holland possibly somehow talk Nyquist into signing in Edmonton?

Nyquist will come in and around the 5.5-6 mill range. We can't afford that

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Whats everyone think of Boldy? He could be around as well

Matthew Boldy Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Matthew Boldy at eliteprospects.com

Big winger that is more of a passer but still owns a good shot. I really like his game, and it seems most of HFOil would be happy if he was the pick.

Unfortunately, I don't get the sense the Oilers are high on him. Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

[Oilers in NS]

Nyquist will come in and around the 5.5-6 mill range. We can't afford that

Something gotta give. Who u think we can get? This forward group is not working

 

[Oilers in NS]

Big winger that is more of a passer but still owns a good shot. I really like his game, and it seems most of HFOil would be happy if he was the pick.

Unfortunately, I don't get the sense the Oilers are high on him. Hopefully I'm wrong.

They might be forced to like him if who they want is gone

 

[CycloneSweep]

Something gotta give. Who u think we can get? This forward group is not working

Connolly and Donskoi are most likely the signing targets.

 

[EmilSWE]

What are your thoughts on Broberg from what you've seen?

The MHL is an awful, awful league. The talent level is decent but there is no structure and no systems in place.

I guess everybody have seen the highlights. He can skate very well obviously, he like to drive into the net. He needs to work on his decisions. Sometimes it's best to just play simple you know. But i think he has potential! Don't take me wrong now but he reminds me LITTLE of Victor Hedman and how he played for Modo. Can he be that good in the future? hmm i dont know. It's going to be exiting to se him play in SHL next year though.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

I guess everybody have seen the highlights. He can skate very well obviously, he like to drive into the net. He needs to work on his decisions. Sometimes it's best to just play simple you know. But i think he has potential! Don't take me wrong now but he reminds me LITTLE of Victor Hedman and how he played for Modo. Can he be that good in the future? hmm i dont know. It's going to be exiting to se him play in SHL next year though.

Thanks. How about defensively? How is he for his age?

 

[Zaddy]

Some interesting talk on Dorofeyev. Bob's list has him at #82 and in the thread on the mainboards Mark Edwards of HP said this: "Dorofeyev has some warts so many will pass. Our ranking is based on his skill and that he was a player who has top 6 potential. I know scouts who had a no draft grades, so guessing so does Bob. Most likely a boom or bust guy."

Pretty interesting, I wonder exactly what they're alluding to, because I have some issues with Dorofeyev as well. This is my personal scouting report on him in a VERY limited sample size:

"Winger with good size. Play away from the puck needs a lot of improvement. Good skater. Would like to see him be more involved in the play. A player who needs the puck on his stick to be effective. Does some pretty good work below the goal-line on the power play. His style of play may be better suited to the more structured pro game than juniors. Fairly good puck skills but hands does not appear to be elite. Does not think the game at a high level, is always chasing the play. Does not strike me as an overly creative player. Could see him being a very streaky player if he makes it to the NHL. Best asset is his shot. NHL comparable: Benoit Pouliot."

I may not have seen him enough though or only seen him in some bad games, because I didn't like his hockey sense but the HockeyProspect guys believe he has "exceptional hockey sense", so that's definitely something I'd have to take another look at. But what mine and HP's reports have in common is the inconsistent pace of play, his lack of elite hands, poor play away from the puck and that his shot is the best part of his game and that he doesn't have much versatility in his game when he's not scoring. So I think my Benoit Pouliot comparison is pretty spot on. Overall a guy that will frustrate you a lot when you watch him play. Can look amazing on one shift or in one game, and then awful and/or lazy in the next.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Some interesting talk on Dorofeyev. Bob's list has him at #82 and in the thread on the mainboards Mark Edwards of HP said this: "Dorofeyev has some warts so many will pass. Our ranking is based on his skill and that he was a player who has top 6 potential. I know scouts who had a no draft grades, so guessing so does Bob. Most likely a boom or bust guy."

Pretty interesting, I wonder exactly what they're alluding to, because I have some issues with Dorofeyev as well. This is my personal scouting report on him in a VERY limited sample size:

"Winger with good size. Play away from the puck needs a lot of improvement. Good skater. Would like to see him be more involved in the play. A player who needs the puck on his stick to be effective. Does some pretty good work below the goal-line on the power play. His style of play may be better suited to the more structured pro game than juniors. Fairly good puck skills but hands does not appear to be elite. Does not think the game at a high level, is always chasing the play. Does not strike me as an overly creative player. Could see him being a very streaky player if he makes it to the NHL. Best asset is his shot. NHL comparable: Benoit Pouliot."

I may not have seen him enough though or only seen him in some bad games, because I didn't like his hockey sense but the HockeyProspect guys believe he has "exceptional hockey sense", so that's definitely something I'd have to take another look at. But what mine and HP's reports have in common is the inconsistent pace of play, his lack of elite hands, poor play away from the puck and that his shot is the best part of his game and that he doesn't have much versatility in his game when he's not scoring. So I think my Benoit Pouliot comparison is pretty spot on. Overall a guy that will frustrate you a lot when you watch him play. Can look amazing on one shift or in one game, and then awful and/or lazy in the next.

I don't think his shot is his best asset, both his hands and passing are better. He's very, very, dangerous offensively with the puck on his stick. I think you're underrating both his hands and hockey sense a fair bit, he can see plays very quickly in the offensive zone and I'd definitely describe his hands as elite. Combine that with a good shot and skating, and he's the total package offensively. I can see why others have him in their top-20 and even top-10...

..if you only look at his offense. He's very inconsistent and somewhere between useless and a liability on defense. His style of play is almost exclusively East/West and, while he does make some big hits, can be caught playing on the perimeter and avoiding driving to the net.

I'd look at him with our 2nd depending on who is available, and would take him with our 3rd without hesitation. Too much upside to go after that.

 

[Oilers in NS]

Connolly and Donskoi are most likely the signing targets.

Who I could live with

 

[FlameChampion]

Some interesting talk on Dorofeyev. Bob's list has him at #82 and in the thread on the mainboards Mark Edwards of HP said this: "Dorofeyev has some warts so many will pass. Our ranking is based on his skill and that he was a player who has top 6 potential. I know scouts who had a no draft grades, so guessing so does Bob. Most likely a boom or bust guy."

Pretty interesting, I wonder exactly what they're alluding to, because I have some issues with Dorofeyev as well. This is my personal scouting report on him in a VERY limited sample size:

"Winger with good size. Play away from the puck needs a lot of improvement. Good skater. Would like to see him be more involved in the play. A player who needs the puck on his stick to be effective. Does some pretty good work below the goal-line on the power play. His style of play may be better suited to the more structured pro game than juniors. Fairly good puck skills but hands does not appear to be elite. Does not think the game at a high level, is always chasing the play. Does not strike me as an overly creative player. Could see him being a very streaky player if he makes it to the NHL. Best asset is his shot. NHL comparable: Benoit Pouliot."

I may not have seen him enough though or only seen him in some bad games, because I didn't like his hockey sense but the HockeyProspect guys believe he has "exceptional hockey sense", so that's definitely something I'd have to take another look at. But what mine and HP's reports have in common is the inconsistent pace of play, his lack of elite hands, poor play away from the puck and that his shot is the best part of his game and that he doesn't have much versatility in his game when he's not scoring. So I think my Benoit Pouliot comparison is pretty spot on. Overall a guy that will frustrate you a lot when you watch him play. Can look amazing on one shift or in one game, and then awful and/or lazy in the next.

Maybe he has some character issues or something that we are not privy to?