Prospect Info: 2019 Draft Discussion: LA Kings pick 5th, 22nd overall

[Nodoughtyboutit]

From the sounds of it if Turcotte falls past Chicago, the Avs run up and take him. Seems like it's way more likely that we see Byram at 5.

 

[Nodoughtyboutit]

Ok guys we get it - it's Turcotte/Byram/Zegras or worst case scenario Dach, depending on CHI and COL do.

In the meantime, let's just pray the Kings brass don't Hickey us once again.

I dont even like Dach in the conversation.

 

[YP44]

Ok guys we get it - it's Turcotte/Byram/Zegras or worst case scenario Dach, depending on CHI and COL do.

In the meantime, let's just pray the Kings brass don't Hickey us once again.

I was so pissed they didn't take Alzner I had to go for a walk to calm down..funny how 1 of the two played this year in the NHL and other in the AHL.

Biggest piss off of Hickey was losing on waivers.

 

[regulate]

I agree its a close call however i think our defense is more of a need We have a couple of center prospects coming No one with Byrams upside in our system and i say that with respect to Clague and Anderson

I'd agree if Vilardi's health wasn't in question right now. He's the only 1C talent we have in the system. Kupari will almost surely play RW, and I don't think anyone believes he's a future 1C. Likewise with Thomas. This will be a big year for Kopitar, but it's obvious he's slowing down on the ice, and it seems many forwards these days are burning out in their early 30's, especially those with a lot of mileage. I don't think Kopi is going to fall of the charts just yet, but he'll be 32 at the start of the season, Doughty 29 (turns 30 in Dec). So that is part of the equation also. I think Doughty will be effective for much longer. The point is likely moot anyway. The chance of both Turcotte and Byram both being passed over is very remote.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Scott Wheeler, the other NHL Draft analyst on The Athletic has 10 players teams should avoid:

Podkolzin(A lot of what he does in a game doesn't impact it positively, feels he could end up a 3rd liner)
Broberg(Doesn't have decision-making to make enough high end plays, makes a lot of mistakes in Offensive Zone)
Soderstrom(May be already reaching a plateau, not a ton of upside, safe but underwhelming in the 20's)
Bjornfort(A 4-5 Dman, not much Offensive upside, limited NHL puck skills, not worth a pick in the 25-40 range)
Vlasik(3rd pairing at best, not much Offensive upside, prone to mistakes)
Gutik(Has a long way to go, a gamble at 45-70, disappears a lot in games and can be ineffective)
Guskov(7th round flier at best, will not be much in the NHL, not talented enough in either zone at the NHL level)
Misyul(Sloppy player who overcompensates for it, not great puck skills,)
Vukojevic(Won't translate puck moving to pro level, benefited more by being bigger that everyone than being good)
Jones(Let's in too many bad goals, mediocre stats)

The more I read about Broberg, the more he sounds like Luca Sbisa. Or Jack Johnson.

I never like the "uber talented and fast but where's his brain" scouting report, especially looking at the pace of play of the Final.

 

[LAKings88]

I think Byram will be there at 5.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

The Kings can still find a damn good center later in the first round of the draft (or early in the second). Observe where Patrice Bergeron, Brayden Point, Claude Giroux, Sebastian Aho, Mat Barzal, Tomas Hertl, Dylan Larkin, Evgeny Kuznetsov all went in their respective drafts.

You just have to hope the scouts can identify such a player, or the team can move up from 22 to target one.

 

[AzKing]

Jon Rosen this morning on the insider board:

"Byram/Turcotte/Cozens/Dach will be a King."

Reading between the lines based upon the statement earlier in the week that the staff had narrowed it down to two players unless someone fell, you can expect the Kings to take Byram or Turcotte if one of them fall to 5th, and if not my take is they take Kirby Dach, since most profile Cozens to be a winger.

Rosen really went out on a limb there. Talk about the obvious. This is exactly what a lot of us said a week ago. That’s about the chalk line too because most have them all bunched in there with Zegras as a possibility.

 

[YP44]

The Kings can still find a damn good center later in the first round of the draft (or early in the second). Observe where Patrice Bergeron, Brayden Point, Claude Giroux, Sebastian Aho, Mat Barzal, Tomas Hertl, Dylan Larkin, Evgeny Kuznetsov all went in their respective drafts.

You just have to hope the scouts can identify such a player, or the team can move up from 22 to target one.

very true, but I think LA can get a heck of D with 22 as well.

 

[regulate]

The more I read about Broberg, the more he sounds like Luca Sbisa. Or Jack Johnson.

I never like the "uber talented and fast but where's his brain" scouting report, especially looking at the pace of play of the Final.

I'm on the Harley, Thomson, Robertson, Seider and maybe Vlasic bandwagon at either 22 or 33. I wouldn't be surprised either if the Kings took a goalie like Dustin Wolf with one of their 3rd round picks.

 

[AzKing]

Far better upside with Dmen at #22 than Forwards.

Byram is the pick if he is there. Dach is the pick if not and Turcotte is gone.

I don’t get why people are down on Dach when his comp has been compared to Thornton, Krejci and other #1 playmaking C’s who make others around them better. At worst, he is a solid #2 and elite PP guy.

 

[regulate]

Far better upside with Dmen at #22 than Forwards.

Byram is the pick if he is there. Dach is the pick if not and Turcotte is gone.

I don’t get why people are down on Dach when his comp has been compared to Thornton, Krejci and other #1 playmaking C’s who make others around them better. At worst, he is a solid #2 and elite PP guy.

I concur 100%, and with Cozens projected to be a wing, you take the center between two every time.

 

[YP44]

Far better upside with Dmen at #22 than Forwards.

Byram is the pick if he is there. Dach is the pick if not and Turcotte is gone.

I don’t get why people are down on Dach when his comp has been compared to Thornton, Krejci and other #1 playmaking C’s who make others around them better. At worst, he is a solid #2 and elite PP guy.

I am not down on Dach but I just don't understand why Zegras is not a bigger part of the conversation.

 

[Fat Elvis]

Byram @ 5
Tomasino @ 22
It's what I'm hoping for

 

[Nodoughtyboutit]

Far better upside with Dmen at #22 than Forwards.

Byram is the pick if he is there. Dach is the pick if not and Turcotte is gone.

I don’t get why people are down on Dach when his comp has been compared to Thornton, Krejci and other #1 playmaking C’s who make others around them better. At worst, he is a solid #2 and elite PP guy.

From what Ive watched and read he just seems like more of the same. He's a big possession playmaker that doesnt drive to the net or play physical. I just prefer Zegras because we havent had a very high iq offensive player in a while. He compares to Barzal vs Dach who is like a less defensive Kopitar.

 

[Telos]

We need some luck to go our way after this abysmal year. If Byram falls, there's no way in hell that they pass on him. I don't care what they think of the other forwards. You have to take the BPA at that point.

 

[Foxtail]

I am not down on Dach but I just don't understand why Zegras is not a bigger part of the conversation.

He is for the Avs

 

[lumbergh]

Okay people what happens if both fall? I go Byram but what do u say ?

I would go with Bowen Byram. To score at that pace as a defenseman is unreal. I can see him anchoring the second pairing behind Doughty and manning the point on the first power play unit for a decade. The things he would learn from Doughty excite me. He's Doughty with a better shot but his defensive game is not nearly as developed. Could just take time. He's the total package.

Turcotte would also be a great pick, so I'd be happy if the Kings got either one. Turcotte will be very good as a 2C behind Kopitar for the next decade. The Kings could use the help either way. Either player will be a major pillar for the Kings going forward.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[KingCanadain1976]

I sure hope there looking at him 33 at the earliest

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[King'sPawn]

My thought is this is the Kings draft priority at 5, based on who's available:
1) Turcotte
2) Byram
3) Dach

Like Wolf as a G the Kings get, but Trent Miner may be an underrated goalie as well.

 

[lumbergh]

What would you trade Colorado to swap #4 & #5? Say Chicago picks Turcotte. I like Byram a lot. I would offer the #5 overall and a 3rd round pick to swap spots. Kings have two of those.

 

[Telos]

It would be amusing, to say the least, if we exit this first round with a defenseman and a goalie...

What would you trade Colorado to swap #4 & #5? Say Chicago picks Turcotte. I like Byram a lot. I would offer the #5 overall and a 3rd round pick to swap spots. Kings have two of those.

I doubt that would be enough, would likely have to throw in a second or both firsts. Probably wouldn't be worth it.

 

[SFKingshomer]

I just hope they're aggressive and get the guys they want. I'd be ok if they used Toffoli to move up. Toffoli and #33 to the Avs for #16 but they would likely want #22.