2019/20 Roster Thread XXX - AKA the Ghost Thread

[landsbergfan]

The face on #38 for the Preds is hilarious and I wish I was on my phone so I could zoom in on it and take a screenshot lol

That is future and former Flyer Ryan Hartman

 

[FlyerNutter]

Yeah guys, if your prospect isn't McDavid don't call him up.

Smart.

It’s the perfect year to call up any kid.

Don’t fall for this marketing ploy that the club has fully risen from the ashes and is about to go on some mystical run.

With the loss of Patrick and Lindblom, reality should bitch slap us all that whatever success happens this year is a bonus.

Frost might not have been pumping out points, but he was a competent player who infused skill and speed into a lineup craving it.

For anyone only concerned about the big club and making the dance, him being back has a much higher chance at propelling this team forward. Wasting assets on improving this squad this year, is foolish - especially when the improvement is likely to be minimal unless you have the idiot GM who will overpay through the nose for an upcoming UFA in Pageau.

 

[Starat327]

"Only play prospects if they're mcdavid" is a holy shit level bad take.

1 prospect should make the immediate jump every 5 years? Whoooo. I cant even count how many productive, let alone star level players are on ELCs.

 

[Rebels57]

He’s one of the kings of **** takes on Flyers twitter

I went in on him lol

 

[FlyerNutter]

St Louis winning last year is a thought I think a lot of GM’s will have in their mind.

Anything is possible, and chasing last year’s cup.

St Louis had their talent essentially assembled, and got a boost from a coaching change along with the most important piece of all - a very solid goaltending performance.

Lucked out with an exhausted and beat up San Jose team, and a favourable first round matchup against a mess of a Jets squad.

Stay the course.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Also intriguing to me to keep bashing the Oilers, who yes have made a lot of mistakes - but let’s not pretend the Flyers have been the beacon of light in how to properly run an organization either.

The high horse is more like a very short mule.

Oilers are arguably top 5 in worst organization in sports since Gretz.

The Flyers aren't even close to that kind of incompetence

 

[Striiker]

It’s the perfect year to call up any kid.

Don’t fall for this marketing ploy that the club has fully risen from the ashes and is about to go on some mystical run.

With the loss of Patrick and Lindblom, reality should ***** slap us all that whatever success happens this year is a bonus.

Frost might not have been pumping out points, but he was a competent player who infused skill and speed into a lineup craving it.

For anyone only concerned about the big club and making the dance, him being back has a much higher chance at propelling this team forward. Wasting assets on improving this squad this year, is foolish - especially when the improvement is likely to be minimal unless you have the idiot GM who will overpay through the nose for an upcoming UFA in Pageau.

Plus, what some people don't seem to comprehend is that calling up the kids DOES help them compete this year and in the future, so it's the best of both worlds.

We get a player who improves the lineup immediately AND he continues to improve.

Frost is better than any random 4C we're going to waste assets on.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Plus, what some people don't seem to comprehend is that calling up the kids DOES help them compete this year and in the future, so it's the best of both worlds.

We get a player who improves the lineup immediately AND he continues to improve.

I don’t disagree that AHL time might help some kids. Of course it does nobody disputes that.

Id be more inclined to favour leaving them there if it wasn’t run by some moron in Gordon who plays a system different than the big club.

Some teams use the AHL to also develop future coaches. Who knew that was possible.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Oilers are arguably top 5 in worst organization in sports since Gretz.

The Flyers aren't even close to that kind of incompetence

Let’s look 2010 on as I really don’t give a rats ass what happened before. I’m not getting into this debate - both clubs have been shit.

One at the bottom of the league and one dwelling in mediocrity. Both missing the playoffs. Flyers are damn lucky their scouting is as good as it is. I’ll leave it there.

 

[Rebels57]

Quick...trade for the guy with the stat line: 40 games, 2 goals, 1 assist, 3 points, -12

Our 4th line can't function without adding him!

I wouldn't take Jankowski for free either.

 

[Striiker]

I don’t disagree that AHL time might help some kids. Of course it does nobody disputes that.

Id be more inclined to favour leaving them there if it wasn’t run by some moron in Gordon who plays a system different than the big club.

Yeah, anyone who is not good enough to perform in the NHL. Guys like Bunnaman, Rubtsov, Vorobyev, Twarynski, etc should be in the AHL.

Frost isn't one of those, though.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Yeah, anyone who is not good enough to perform in the NHL. Guys like Bunnaman, Rubtsov, Vorobyev, Twarynski, etc should be in the AHL.

Frost isn't one of those, though.

I notice how you left Kase out of that initial list.

Good man.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Edmonton has still amassed Gagner, Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Nurse, Draisaitl, & McDavid since they’ve been “rebuilding”. Guys like MPS, Yakupov, & Puljujarvi have flopped but there’s still plenty talent above to offset that especially when you yielded a guy like McDavid.

Tyler Pitlick is one of their best non-first round draft picks in that time frame. Guys like Erik Gustafson, Tobias Reider, John Marino, etc. who actually panned out in a noticeable way never even played for them.

They don’t suck because of those guys they suck as they’ve been poorly managed for all this time. Poor drafting outside of the first round, bad signings, bad trades, etc.

 

[Tripod]

I wouldn't take Jankowski for free either.

He is an upgrade on Bunny who should be in the AHL.

I could see chucking a prospect we are not going to sign for him. And they might want that to clear cap space for another deal too. Fletch will see it as a thank you for Myers and Z.

 

[FlyerNutter]

It’s been said before, but any trade that will see Ghost leaving - with no replacement other than Hagg coming in. Is opening up a pretty good sized hole.

They are not likely to put in Friedman due to him being a R shot.

I’m not against a trade completely, but it’s got to be something bigger and something likely to actually move the needle beyond this year too.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I wouldn't take Jankowski for free either.

If you can’t get anyone else, he’s better than Bunnaman & it’ll take nothing to get him.

Biggest problem I see is that he’s a finesse player despite his size. Not exactly hard nosed. But he does have some skill & could potentially fill Patrick’s 3C role in a pinch if you want to move G back to W. Jankowski’s previous 2 seasons weren’t too much different than NP’s.

 

[Curufinwe]

So how has Jankowski gone from 32 points last year to 3 so far in 19-20?

Wow, he had 5 SHG in 18-19.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

What would the Venn diagram of people that think Jankowski makes sense and also insisted Matt Read was done in 2015 look like?

I'd be fine with Jankowski extremely cheaply for the record. In no circumstances do I want to give up real assets for him.

So how has Jankowski gone from 32 points last year to 3 so far in 19-20?

He doesn't want it anymore, Curu. I can tell. I saw an interview once.

 

[Striiker]

It’s been said before, but any trade that will see Ghost leaving - with no replacement other than Hagg coming in. Is opening up a pretty good sized hole.

They are not likely to put in Friedman due to him being a R shot.

I’m not against a trade completely, but it’s got to be something bigger and something likely to actually move the needle beyond this year too.

Using Ghost properly would be better than any possible trade.

They won't do it, because our coaching staff is extremely stupid, but that's by far the biggest improvement possible this year. Adding a top pair D for free? Should be a no-brainer.

 

[kudymen]

What the f*** have I read since page 8, aside from insane lickballs.giffing from an actual contrarian f***ing hive

Igor Silent getting a real workout there, making this thread look like Emmental cheese

 

[FlyerNutter]

I’m just not sure you can fill that center hole in a smart way at this point without overpaying or a guy who really isn’t good enough to fill the spot in the first place.

It’s tough to plan a proper course for the future with the uncertainty in Patrick. As an organization that question is crucial to any potential trade/plan.

 

[Curufinwe]

What would the Venn diagram of people that think Jankowski makes sense and also insisted Matt Read was done in 2015 look like?

I'd be fine with Jankowski extremely cheaply for the record. In no circumstances do I want to give up real assets for him.

For a very low price, sure, why not. Bunnaman is not an NHL 4C in 19-20.

Maybe Calgary wants to dump his contract/cap hit so they can make another move?

Edit - I looked on the Flames forum, and the name "Wayne Simmonds" comes up a lot.

 

[Tripod]

So Jank and his 3 points in 40 games is ok as a #3C if they want to move Giroux back to LW....but Front and his 7 points in 18 games is not.

Oh...forgot lots can't read this due to the Egor function:

"But he does have some skill & could potentially fill Patrick’s 3C role in a pinch if you want to move G back to W. Jankowski’s previous 2 seasons weren’t too much different than NP’s."

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[Curufinwe]

Jankowski > Tavares.

 

[Chinatown88]

Interrupting these messages for an important gif. @Starat327

Carry on folks