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The "Deal With It" avatars Canuck fans were sporting all season disappeared real quick following Game 5.
 
The Lukeman said:
I miss him too. He was my favorite player when he was in Philly. I remember how excited I was when they announced the Richards trade to LA
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I was in Hawaii on vacation watching SportsCenter when the news came over the ticker. I sat up straight when I saw who the Kings had given up, then Flyers Mike Richards popped up next and I yelled "YES!". I'll never forget how hyped I was that day. The beach? F@!#% that, I'm reading every trade news story and message board thread I could find that day! Still do that trade 100/100 times.
 
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I don't know how this works exactly, maybe @Raccoon Jesus could enlighten me, but with the Fall/winter sports seasons on thin ice (no pun intended), could kids who are set to play in the NCAA change course and decide to play Juniors if a CHL franchise owns their rights, or sign and play AHL if they are old enough?

This assumes of course that those leagues are playing, but if students haven't been able to go back to campus, college sports are a no-go.
 
I was in Vegas at the time of the trade and I was going to put my usual 100 on the Kings to win the Cup but I slept in too late...and our odds went from like 24-1 to 8-1 overnight. Figured I'd hold off for a bit, didn't make the bet, and of course we won. So i bet again in 2013, and decided not to in 2014. Yep.

KopitarFAN said:
I don't know how this works exactly, maybe @Raccoon Jesus could enlighten me, but with the Fall/winter sports seasons on thin ice (no pun intended), could kids who are set to play in the NCAA change course and decide to play Juniors if a CHL franchise owns their rights, or sign and play AHL if they are old enough?

This assumes of course that those leagues are playing, but if students haven't been able to go back to campus, college sports are a no-go.
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I can't imagine the colleges would try to hold them hostage if that's the case given this is a pretty unprecedented situation.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I was in Vegas at the time of the trade and I was going to put my usual 100 on the Kings to win the Cup but I slept in too late...and our odds went from like 24-1 to 8-1 overnight. Figured I'd hold off for a bit, didn't make the bet, and of course we won. So i bet again in 2013, and decided not to in 2014. Yep.
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Moral of the story - always do and think the opposite of RJ. I knew it!! :)
 
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Sharks need to fire Wilson so he can be hired as an assistant here.

I want to then beat the sharks since we'd have a number of their former players/execs in charge of the kings.

McLellan- check
wilson - check


that would surely piss them off and that seems like a good hockey goal atm.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
I was in Vegas at the time of the trade and I was going to put my usual 100 on the Kings to win the Cup but I slept in too late...and our odds went from like 24-1 to 8-1 overnight. Figured I'd hold off for a bit, didn't make the bet, and of course we won. So i bet again in 2013, and decided not to in 2014. Yep.
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So after that Hawaii trip, we end up in Vegas a month later and I put $50 on the Kings to win it all at 10 to 1. Fast forward to February and I'm in Vegas again and while I'm there, the Kings trade for Jeff Carter. Immediately I'm thinking oh shit, time to double down because now the Kings are 25 to 1 or something because they're currently out of the Playoffs in the standings. As I'm heading to the sports book, my family is like hurry, let's go and I don't get the chance to make that secondary bet. Welp, that would've been a killer hit. Anyway, I paid $500 for a ticket to Game 3 of the SCF in the Premier section. Best 500 F'ing dollars spent ever. No regrets.
 
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Conceivably they could freeze the cap for say 3 years, owners take the loss in 20-21, make it up in the subsequent years with fans back in the building and the first year of the new TV deal.
 
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That's probably the least bad alternative. Flat cap with higher escrow. Share the pain evenly as a %. No CBA negotiation necessary.

A compliance buyout would have to be negotiated as a change to the CBA and it puts more money into the hands of the playes so it makes the 50-50 revenue imbalance worse.

A cut in the cap and nothing else screws over RFAs and UFAs.

A reduction in salaries would have to be negotiated and what happens if the amount is off? Or not needed for as long? Is there another negotiation? Just seems overly complex when there's the simpler solution that doesn't require as much work and changes to the CBA. More flexibility since escrow is set yearly.
 
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NHL Playoffs Archive

every full playoff game of the 2012 kings and the 2014 final. Some other series too.
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Well done, there goes my next month of free time.

Something else that has swung the kings way through this virus is the situation with Kupari. He was set to miss close to a year of development with his knee reconstruction. Now none of his peers are skating either, so compared to his peers hes will have only a negligible period of his development missed due to the year long injury. It could be quite a big win because after a struggle in his first NA year, it would have been easy to get left behind coming back from such a long lay off when everyone else has had an extra year of playing.
 
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I hadn't ever really gone back and watched much of the 2010 or 2011 playoff years, 2011 was just so frustrating because the Kings lost Kopi and didn't have a #2 center either. But the team fought hard both years. Once they added some pieces and had some injury luck we saw what would happen.

Funny how Clifford scored 3 goals in his first 5 career playoff games as a King, and then scored 1 in his final 49. I think the Kings handled him very poorly that year, and had he been able to return to junior as a 19 year old he may have been able to be a Lucic type player in the NHL.
 
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The Lukeman said:
I miss him too. He was my favorite player when he was in Philly. I remember how excited I was when they announced the Richards trade to LA
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cyclones22 said:
I was in Hawaii on vacation watching SportsCenter when the news came over the ticker. I sat up straight when I saw who the Kings had given up, then Flyers Mike Richards popped up next and I yelled "YES!". I'll never forget how hyped I was that day. The beach? F@!#% that, I'm reading every trade news story and message board thread I could find that day! Still do that trade 100/100 times.
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Somehow that trade was able to erase the pain away from when the Kings dealt Paul Coffey back in 93.

The trades have nothing to do with each other but in my mind the Kings unnecessarily dealt away a great player and now they were deliberately dealing for a great player.
 
Watching Game 1 of the 2012 series against the Canucks; I'm not sure any team in the cap era had as many POS players that everyone else in the NHL hated as this Canucks team.

Pretty great that after the all the shit they tried to pull in this series we were the ones to end their Cup window.
 
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Herby said:
Funny how Clifford scored 3 goals in his first 5 career playoff games as a King, and then scored 1 in his final 49. I think the Kings handled him very poorly that year, and had he been able to return to junior as a 19 year old he may have been able to be a Lucic type player in the NHL.
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Lucic spent just one more year in junior after getting drafted too. Clifford had 7 goals in 76 games in his first year. Lucic had 8 in 77. Wasn't part of drafting Clifford where they did that he was already a man at 18? How much better does he get? If he's physically stronger than other guys in junior, does more time in junior make him better? Or does he just bully the other kids? Sort of like Lindros, where he never had to keep his head up when he was destroying children, which ended up costing him as a pro. We could chalk it up to the unrelenting defensive system that the Kings had, which suppressed everyone on the team.

There's some development in the equation, but at the same time, a lot depends on what's there to work with. Lucic had some decent hands. Except in the defensive zone for whatever reason. Clifford never really showed those hands. You could say his peak was the 2011 playoffs. Like Brown's in 2012. He was never as good before or since. Same with Clifford. He may have just been in that zone for those 2 weeks in April 2011.

You would think, for a guy that's 6-2, 210 or whatever, if there was more to squeeze out of Clifford, somebody would've done so. DL would've called down from up on high, and said play this guy. He rarely got off the 4th line over a decade though. The first year he averaged more than 10 minutes per game was 14-15, the year they lost Pearson to injury. Then from 16-17 to his trade to Toronto, where most years the Kings are dreck. Not that that's on Clifford.

But yeah, had things been different, and had Clifford been a Lucic type, there's probably no Gagne. There's probably no Lucic later on either. Maybe not even a Gaborik. Penner got here when Clifford should've been in junior, but, had they seen a future Lucic in Clifford, maybe they keep that 1st in 2011.
 
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