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Instead of going the offer sheet route and giving away so many picks when we don’t know how well the team will be performing over the next 3-4 years, why not trade for a player when the time is right? Now is not that time.

Going all in at $12 million for a player who isn’t Connor McDavid or Leon Draisaitl seems a bit foolish to me.
 
I texted the few Sharks fans I know to make sure they knew that this game was on today.

I also unfortunately noticed that they're airing the Kane hat trick game from the 2013 WCF later in the week though.

EDIT: Man, it's crazy how tough, skilled, and fast our team used to be. We didn't have many burners, but god damn did we move the puck quickly and decisively.
 
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Instead of going the offer sheet route and giving away so many picks when we don’t know how well the team will be performing over the next 3-4 years, why not trade for a player when the time is right? Now is not that time.

Going all in at $12 million for a player who isn’t Connor McDavid or Leon Draisaitl seems a bit foolish to me.
Well my answer to that is pretty simple. We have a legit #1C and #1D on the team right now that are getting older but still it's easy to project them as performing at a high level for the next four years. And truthfully I think that is one of two big areas where alot of you guys disagree with me. The other big one is that for some reason alot of people think it will take multiple years for these prospects to
Contribute. I have a different outlook. I think there are multiple high level prospects in our organization that can step in and represent immediate upgrades.

Our prospects don't have to be stars in the NHL in order for my strategy to work. Just need them to mostly fall in line with their current almost universally agreed upon projections.
Some of these guys might not meet expectations and some of these guys might exceed expectations. The good news is that after the 2020 draft we will have such a deep and high level pool it's really tough for me to believe that youth won't be a big factor on this team starting very soon. I think most of us are already seeing it.
Look at the huge amount of development time lost for Vilardi and how easy it was for him to represent a key upgrade in our lineup at the age of 20. That will be happening throughout our lineup as we continue to call up our youth.

I just have a very hard time thinking that a Kopi-Barzal-Vilardi 1,2,3 center core, a D core led by Doughty, and a G combo of Petersen-Quick, and supported by again the best prospect pool in the league, is not a team that can be competing for cups over the next four years.
 
Now I'm compelled to view the GDT on the Sharks board, just to soak in the tears.
2014 was a vintage year.

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Instead of going the offer sheet route and giving away so many picks when we don’t know how well the team will be performing over the next 3-4 years, why not trade for a player when the time is right? Now is not that time.

Going all in at $12 million for a player who isn’t Connor McDavid or Leon Draisaitl seems a bit foolish to me.
Especially if you consider Auston Matthews will be a UFA after four more seasons. Hey, if you're going big game hunting might as well look at what will be available when the Kings may actually be decent again.
 
Especially if you consider Auston Matthews will be a UFA after four more seasons. Hey, if you're going big game hunting might as well look at what will be available when the Kings may actually be decent again.
We are in the middle of an 8 yr rebuild?
 
The forum being down yesterday was tough. I was so bored I had an argument with my dog over which of his toys we should have thrown out 3 years ago.
 
Especially if you consider Auston Matthews will be a UFA after four more seasons. Hey, if you're going big game hunting might as well look at what will be available when the Kings may actually be decent again.

You don't think the Kings are going to be decent until 2024/25? That seems to be an overly pessimistic projection. We have the best prospect pool in the league, still have Kopi/Doughty and have a cap that becomes extremely clean over the next few seasons. Add all of that to how we have seen some prospects already perform(Vilardi, Roy, Mikey), I can't imagine it takes them 5 seasons to become decent.

Also, I don't know what your definition of decent is, but I would say that during the current 7 game winning streak they looked decent. Hell, if you go back to just before the deadline they are 10-2-1 and looked pretty damn decent the whole time.
 
I would say it will take 3 years for the window to start creaking open again. That's when we should target guys.
 
You don't think the Kings are going to be decent until 2024/25? That seems to be an overly pessimistic projection. We have the best prospect pool in the league, still have Kopi/Doughty and have a cap that becomes extremely clean over the next few seasons. Add all of that to how we have seen some prospects already perform(Vilardi, Roy, Mikey), I can't imagine it takes them 5 seasons to become decent.

Also, I don't know what your definition of decent is, but I would say that during the current 7 game winning streak they looked decent. Hell, if you go back to just before the deadline they are 10-2-1 and looked pretty damn decent the whole time.
I will change decent to contenders. Better?
 
Especially if you consider Auston Matthews will be a UFA after four more seasons. Hey, if you're going big game hunting might as well look at what will be available when the Kings may actually be decent again.
Right after Kopi's contract ends. Just as BLuc had it planned all along.
 
The rebuild didn't start four years ago. Robitaille and Blake were still on Fantasy Island when they signed Kovalchuk less than two years ago.

We drafted Gabe Vilardi after the 16/17 season. That marked the beginning of us acquiring really top level prospects. So what is it 7 years of aquiring prospects before we should start trying to add to our team?

By that time we will be paying this current pool of prospects big money. Our team will start to get expensive if these young guys that pan out all start getting big deals. Then Kopi and Doughty are gone or have re-signed and are playing out the ends of their careers with us. I'm sure your plan is that we will be able to replace them internally but that opens up other holes. Those holes are going to be difficult to replace with a few more 1st round picks (that might not be all that high) over the next few years.

When you look at our prospects and young players right now(add the 2020 draft to that too) and there really isn't many spots to fill on the current roster. Just gotta call them up. Lots of highly ranked prospects are able to produce in the NHL at ages 19/20/21. And frequently those first few years contain some of the best years of a players career.
 
We drafted Gabe Vilardi after the 16/17 season. That marked the beginning of us acquiring really top level prospects. So what is it 7 years of aquiring prospects before we should start trying to add to our team?

By that time we will be paying this current pool of prospects big money. Our team will start to get expensive if these young guys that pan out all start getting big deals. Then Kopi and Doughty are gone or have re-signed and are playing out the ends of their careers with us. I'm sure your plan is that we will be able to replace them internally but that opens up other holes. Those holes are going to be difficult to replace with a few more 1st round picks (that might not be all that high) over the next few years.

When you look at our prospects and young players right now(add the 2020 draft to that too) and there really isn't many spots to fill on the current roster. Just gotta call them up. Lots of highly ranked prospects are able to produce in the NHL at ages 19/20/21. And frequently those first few years contain some of the best years of a players career.
I don't think Kopitar and Doughty are leading the Kings to another championship. Besides for the next few years at least the Kings are going to have to go through Edmonton, Vegas, Vancouver, and Calgary to get there, and I don't see that happening.
 
I don't think Kopitar and Doughty are leading the Kings to another championship. Besides for the next few years at least the Kings are going to have to go through Edmonton, Vegas, Vancouver, and Calgary to get there, and I don't see that happening.
Well right now they are a very versatile #1D and #1C. I don't see that slipping dramatically over the next four seasons, will Kopi maybe be a shutdown possession #2c towards the end? Maybe. Doughty will at the very least be a solid top pairing dman and likely still be a premeir top pairing dman. I mean barring injury how much regression do you think will occur for players that elite?

But again in my proposal I would expect Barzal to be a driving force and perhaps the best player on the team, pushing Kopi into a beast of a #2C. Vilardi should allow us to basically just roll three lines. With none of our prospects even being expected to drive their respective lines.

Someone like Drysdale would be expected to drive a second pairing if the Kings want to compete for cups. Very reasonable, Bjornfot might very well be able to do that and he's already in our system. If we draft a guy like Rossi or even someone like Holtz, if we slide in the draft, will be expected to be a good trigger man on the PP and a above avg top 6. Kaliyev would need to be the lefty trigger man on a pp and a solid top 6. Turcotte could be a above avg top 6. Fagemo, Kupari, Thomas, Madden, etc... These guys just need to be able to be good top 9 forwards. You get the point, we don't need them to be superstars they can miss projections and we will still have an incredibly deep and talented young team.

It's just too simple to make reasonable projections for our prospects and realize that we can put together a dangerous team.

Edmonton, Vancouver, vegas, Calgary? None of those teams are particularly scary going forward imo. That's a pretty beatable group going forward.
 
Well right now they are a very versatile #1D and #1C. I don't see that slipping dramatically over the next four seasons, will Kopi maybe be a shutdown possession #2c towards the end? Maybe. Doughty will at the very least be a solid top pairing dman and likely still be a premeir top pairing dman. I mean barring injury how much regression do you think will occur for players that elite?

But again in my proposal I would expect Barzal to be a driving force and perhaps the best player on the team, pushing Kopi into a beast of a #2C. Vilardi should allow us to basically just roll three lines. With none of our prospects even being expected to drive their respective lines.

Someone like Drysdale would be expected to drive a second pairing if the Kings want to compete for cups. Very reasonable, Bjornfot might very well be able to do that and he's already in our system. If we draft a guy like Rossi or even someone like Holtz, if we slide in the draft, will be expected to be a good trigger man on the PP and a above avg top 6. Kaliyev would need to be the lefty trigger man on a pp and a solid top 6. Turcotte could be a above avg top 6. Fagemo, Kupari, Thomas, Madden, etc... These guys just need to be able to be good top 9 forwards. You get the point, we don't need them to be superstars they can miss projections and we will still have an incredibly deep and talented young team.

It's just too simple to make reasonable projections for our prospects and realize that we can put together a dangerous team.

Edmonton, Vancouver, vegas, Calgary? None of those teams are particularly scary going forward imo. That's a pretty beatable group going forward.
We saw Doughty slip dramatically this past season. We have seen Kopitar slip every other season for five or six years. These guys are on the wrong side of 30, and neither one of them are known as workout champs.

Barzal isn't coming here. There is no Barzal.
 
Well right now they are a very versatile #1D and #1C. I don't see that slipping dramatically over the next four seasons, will Kopi maybe be a shutdown possession #2c towards the end? Maybe. Doughty will at the very least be a solid top pairing dman and likely still be a premeir top pairing dman. I mean barring injury how much regression do you think will occur for players that elite?

But again in my proposal I would expect Barzal to be a driving force and perhaps the best player on the team, pushing Kopi into a beast of a #2C. Vilardi should allow us to basically just roll three lines. With none of our prospects even being expected to drive their respective lines.

Someone like Drysdale would be expected to drive a second pairing if the Kings want to compete for cups. Very reasonable, Bjornfot might very well be able to do that and he's already in our system. If we draft a guy like Rossi or even someone like Holtz, if we slide in the draft, will be expected to be a good trigger man on the PP and a above avg top 6. Kaliyev would need to be the lefty trigger man on a pp and a solid top 6. Turcotte could be a above avg top 6. Fagemo, Kupari, Thomas, Madden, etc... These guys just need to be able to be good top 9 forwards. You get the point, we don't need them to be superstars they can miss projections and we will still have an incredibly deep and talented young team.

It's just too simple to make reasonable projections for our prospects and realize that we can put together a dangerous team.

Edmonton, Vancouver, vegas, Calgary? None of those teams are particularly scary going forward imo. That's a pretty beatable group going forward.
We saw Doughty slip dramatically this past season. We have seen Kopitar slip every other season for five or six years. These guys are on the wrong side of 30, and neither one of them are known as workout champs.

Barzal isn't coming here. There is no Barzal.
 
We saw Doughty slip dramatically this past season. We have seen Kopitar slip every other season for five or six years. These guys are on the wrong side of 30, and neither one of them are known as workout champs.

Barzal isn't coming here. There is no Barzal.
It's a hypothetical to discuss in a prolonged off-season. But if we wanted it to happen there has rarely ever been a more poachable high quality RFA than him and we are a perfect fit to make it happen.

Whether or not it will happen is up to people other than us. I'm just bringing it up for discussion as I think it's interesting. And exciting to see how close we could be to competing
 
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