2019-20 Kings News/Rumors
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- May 9, 2014
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I don’t listen to it, I was being deliberately melodramatic
BringTheReign
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I wish my avatar were a real jersey! Alas, it is a years old concept from a website called NHL Tournament of Logos. I don't even know if the site is up anymore.
Little Psycho
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La and sj tonight where defense is optional and great goaltending doesn't exist.
The Tikkanen
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I'll admit it when I'm wrong.
Kopitar has looked much better this season. Last season I could not stand him. This season he has looked good more nights than not.
That is all, carry on.
Kopitar has looked much better this season. Last season I could not stand him. This season he has looked good more nights than not.
That is all, carry on.
boom way to own it!!
I have not watched a lot of Sharts yet this year. Seems like they are dinged up tonight and on Capfriendly's depth chart it has Marleau on the top line. Is this true?
KINGS17
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Kopitar looks good every other season. If you forget which year it will happen in the future, it's in the Farmer's Almanac.
Since the 2010-11 season, Kopitar leads all forwards in time on ice with 14,937.15, nearly 300 more than Giroux who is in second place.
Of the top 10 players in time on ice for that time period only Kopitar has logged more than 1,000 shorthanded minutes. He has played 1,409.
Over that time frame he leads the Kings in points with 627, the next closest skater on the Kings is Doughty with 398.
Despite being relied upon heavily in a defensive role and not having any other consistent offensive teammates he is still able to carry the team offensively.
It is a shame that people constantly call him out when he has a slightly down year scoring wise because he is being asked to do so much.
KINGS17
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Here are some telling stats for Kopitar:
2013-14: 200
2014-15: 134
2015-16: 177
2016-17: 150
2017-18: 200
2018-19: 156
2019-20: on pace for slightly less than 200
It has consistently happened every other season. When the effort is there these numbers are up. When the effort isn't there these numbers are down. I am sure you can guess what stat the numbers represent. The fact that Kopitar leads the team in scoring every season, even when he has less than 70 points, doesn't mean he is having a great season, it means the team is not very good.
Yes, I expect a better and more consistent performance year over year from a player with an $80M contract.
I imagine those are shots. I don't think it is effort, I think Kopitar gives his all every season(except maybe last season, but that was a whole mess). I do notice that those down years follow playoff runs, where Kopitar is again relied upon even more heavily.
It is hard to keep scoring up when you are the only major scoring threat on the team. He doesn't have the benefit of picking up secondary assists if no one else can drive the offense.
You expect something that no other player provides. You expect a guy to carry the team offensively by himself while being deployed in a heavily defensive manner and playing far more minutes than anyone else in the league. He also can not have any slight down years despite all of that. Is that what you are looking for?
Raccoon Jesus
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If you go look at the PK minutes/defensive deployment of literally ANYONE scoring more than Kopitar over any significant period of time, you'll notice something very interesting.
It's almost as if it's not just about scoring.
And calling a guy with that kind of minutes out on effort is just utter trash. Results you can bang on and argue.
Choralone
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Interesting article published on The Athletic today: Taking a deep analytical look at the Kings over the first....
Timely bit on Kopitar:
No secondary assists for you.....
Timely bit on Kopitar:
No secondary assists for you.....
Choralone
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Also, from the same article, Carts and Toff are upping their value, while some others aren't....
Peter James Bond II
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Jon Rosen✔@lakingsinsider
MacDermid, Kovalchuk, Forbort, Lewis taking shots on Campbell. Some short-burst sprints involved. More explosive movement by Lewis than late last week.
"""More explosive movement by Lewis than late last week.""" Like Connor McDavid explosive?
Lewis has hopefully played his last with the Kings, He's not good enough to take anyone's place out of the lineup. Grundstrom is playing well, Prokhorkin is looking great (and wayyyy more offensive talent and finish then Lewis) and Amadio is playing better again. There's no room for Lewis. "He is so 2014" He should probably be waived. Yes, he was good...and loved the dive to take the puck away from Hamhuis in 2012 and Stoll took it and scored game winner. Thank, Trevor! That was 7 and a half years ago though. No disrespect. At. All. It's just time for younger players..that are already better
MacDermid, Kovalchuk, Forbort, Lewis taking shots on Campbell. Some short-burst sprints involved. More explosive movement by Lewis than late last week.
"""More explosive movement by Lewis than late last week.""" Like Connor McDavid explosive?
Lewis has hopefully played his last with the Kings, He's not good enough to take anyone's place out of the lineup. Grundstrom is playing well, Prokhorkin is looking great (and wayyyy more offensive talent and finish then Lewis) and Amadio is playing better again. There's no room for Lewis. "He is so 2014" He should probably be waived. Yes, he was good...and loved the dive to take the puck away from Hamhuis in 2012 and Stoll took it and scored game winner. Thank, Trevor! That was 7 and a half years ago though. No disrespect. At. All. It's just time for younger players..that are already better
Choralone
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The tree of a professional sport franchise must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of veterans. It is its natural manure.
Raccoon Jesus
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KINGS17
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How about Kovalchuk with half his salary retained plus Toffolli (maybe some salary retained) for Turris at 4m per year plus picks and prospects.
Preds get much needed firepower and rid themselves off Turris and still have cap space to spend at the deadline.
I could also see Kempe worked into that. I think a change of scenery would benefit him and Poile would like a little more long term value in the deal.
Preds get much needed firepower and rid themselves off Turris and still have cap space to spend at the deadline.
I could also see Kempe worked into that. I think a change of scenery would benefit him and Poile would like a little more long term value in the deal.
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That’s looks more like a case of being asked to do too much and burnout. To suggest it’s effort is BS he has historically been overused and has consistently had underwhelming support offensively.
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I know, in the down seasons it is never because he doesn't go to the net and skates laps around the boards instead, right?
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