2019-20 Kings News/Rumors

[Raccoon Jesus]

It was a back-handed dig at Vancouver that didn't age well considering Vancouvers performance so far. This was said, whether or not you need context is kinda irrelevant. He could have said the Kings sucked without mentioning Vancouver at all. Is it an attempt to make Doughty look stupid? Yeah. Did he look stupid for saying that? Yeah. Is it a big deal? Apparently it is cause Vancouver and Kings fans are all about it. I see it more like Kubalik...ie....who. gives. a. ****.

Context is 100% relevant if you're a reporter, particularly one using direct quotations to mean a guy said something exactly one way when he didn't. That's a huge deal. The misrepresentation is another big issue. You can't just remove it from context.

And again, if you have to comb through 100s of words and misquote someone to manufacture rage, it's a problem.

Ultimately, no, it's not a big deal, let them have their fun, whatever. But if I'm Drew, yeah, I'm pissed, because I like to shoot my mouth off and I don't need some schmuck that needs some attention making things up. I'm walking away from microphones the rest of the year. Congrats, you got what you wanted.

 

[tny760]

Context is 100% relevant if you're a reporter, particularly one using direct quotations to mean a guy said something exactly one way when he didn't. That's a huge deal. The misrepresentation is another big issue. You can't just remove it from context.

And again, if you have to comb through 100s of words and misquote someone to manufacture rage, it's a problem.

Ultimately, no, it's not a big deal, let them have their fun, whatever. But if I'm Drew, yeah, I'm pissed, because I like to shoot my mouth off and I don't need some schmuck that needs some attention making things up. I'm walking away from microphones the rest of the year. Congrats, you got what you wanted.

 

[Bandit]

I dunno. I think it's all ridiculous outrage, but " a team like that should not be beating a team like ours 8-2. " is definitely slighting the Canucks a bit. He's inferring that some teams might be able to beat the Kings 8-2 but that Vancouver isn't one of them. Had he said "no team should be beating us 8-2" that would be a different story.

Anyway, I love that he pissed off so many people with that comment, they can pound sand.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I dunno. I think it's all ridiculous outrage, but " a team like that should not be beating a team like ours 8-2. " is definitely slighting the Canucks a bit. He's inferring that some teams might be able to beat the Kings 8-2 but that Vancouver isn't one of them. Had he said "no team should be beating us 8-2" that would be a different story.

Anyway, I love that he pissed off so many people with that comment, they can pound sand.

That's ultimately all I'm trying to say.

Desperate for some attention after Drew gave Calgary the real sound bites I guess.

 

[kilowatt]

Eh, that is kind of a dig at Vancouver, not unwarranted as they've been rather garbage the past few years. But using hindsight to imply that Vancouver was actually a legit team, thus an insult to be referred to a "team like that" is weak, particularly for a game at the beginning of the season. I had the same sentiments as Doughty after the loss. But after 15 games, and watching Vancouver play against the Blues, they're definitely not the team which I (and probably a lot of people at the start of the season) believed Vancouver to be.

“Vancouver ... garbage the past few years.”
- @bouncesonly, 2019

 

[crassbonanza]

It's kind of sad the way that the Canucks fans and Blake Price have been acting about this whole situation. Price knows that he was misleading when he put that out, which is why he has been so defensive over it, lashing out immediately to anyone questioning him. The Nucks fans seem so desperate by continually latching onto this quote taken out of place to get attention. It's frankly pretty embarrassing.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Canucks still suck.

 

[Ollie Weeks]

Why are sports fans so damn sensitive.

 

[TruKingFan]

Why are sports fans so damn sensitive.

Perhaps because they've never won a Cup much less two.....

 

[Choralone]

Why are sports fans so damn sensitive.

Because we latch on to sports teams, identify with them, and experience their success and failures vicariously. So an attack on them is like an attack on us and a blow to our ego that must be answered like a Pejorative Slur.

 

[Statto]

... and then people complain when players use canned sound bites after a game.

 

[Lt Dan]

... and then people complain when players use canned sound bites after a game.

indeed

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[Fat Elvis]

Why are sports fans so damn sensitive.

The reason is the lack of comfortable seating. It's science.

 

[Fishhead]

The reason is the lack of comfortable seating. It's science.

 

[Lt Dan]

 

[kingsholygrail]

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

... and then people complain when players use canned sound bites after a game.

Which is why I appreciate Drew's response that much more.

He's like, look, I give you guys everything you want and more, and you still aren't satisfied? f*** off then.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

This really comes as no surprise.
https://www.tsn.ca/los-angeles-king...-become-available-at-trade-deadline-1.1393475

"Another pending unrestricted free agent is Tyler Toffoli of the Los Angeles Kings," LeBrun said on Insider Trading Tuesday. "He’s only 27 years old and you wonder where he fits into this Kings rebuild. And it is a rebuild; the Kings are going to turn this roster over big time over the next couple of years. At this time, and it could change, I don’t believe the Kings are thinking they’re going to re-sign Toffoli. I do believe he’ll be made available for a trade closer to the Feb. 24 Trade Deadline.

 

[kilowatt]

This really comes as no surprise.
https://www.tsn.ca/los-angeles-king...-become-available-at-trade-deadline-1.1393475

I am shooketh

 

[The Pale King]

I routinely forget Toffoli is only 27. I usually think he's ~30. Feels like he's been underwhelming for close to a decade (sorry TT).

That said he deserves a chance to try his one-trick-ponyism in another city. Could see him having some (limited) value to a team that needs an upgrade on their 2nd PP//an overabundance of playmakers in the top-six.

I'm thinking Montreal, Vancouver, Philly, or Buffalo. Those teams all seem to like ex-Kings, and Buffalo in particular seems to covet one dimensional goal-scorers.

 

[Statto]

I think the biggest issue we had after the 2nd cup and after the decent regular season in 2016, isn’t that we didn’t trade Carter, Lewis, Brown, Toffoli, Quick. It’s that we didn’t trade anyone of significance. The error was not about moving a specific key player, it was not moving any key player to freshen things up and keep the average age down. The argument should be about any single player, as we keep getting into.

We didn’t move any of the players we are now desperate go get rid of, when they had value and would have been moveable. That’s when a GM has to make the tough decisions to move guys at a time it’s going to upset more that half the fan base. I love DL, but that was his biggest failure, moreso than his rental moves IMO.

Tougher for Blake to do when he was new to the role, and for some was a controversial choice, but he (and DL before him) should have done it. Carter would have been a hugely ballsey move to trade when he was first appointed . Carter was coming off a 30g year and was the only player with value at that point. It was easy to see why you’d choose to keep him. His injury was never something that could have been predicted and definitely contributed to his rapid drop off. It’s all too easy to say with hindsight though.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I think the biggest issue we had after the 2nd cup and after the decent regular season in 2016, isn’t that we didn’t trade Carter, Lewis, Brown, Toffoli, Quick. It’s that we didn’t trade anyone of significance. The error was not about moving a specific key player, it was not moving any key player to freshen things up and keep the average age down. The argument should be about any single player, as we keep getting into.

We didn’t move any of the players we are now desperate go get rid of, when they had value and would have been moveable. That’s when a GM has to make the tough decisions to move guys at a time it’s going to upset more that half the fan base. I love DL, but that was his biggest failure, moreso than his rental moves IMO.

Tougher for Blake to do when he was new to the role, and for some was a controversial choice, but he (and DL before him) should have done it. Carter would have been a hugely ballsey move to trade when he was first appointed . Carter was coming off a 30g year and was the only player with value at that point. It was easy to see why you’d choose to keep him. His injury was never something that could have been predicted and definitely contributed to his rapid drop off. It’s all too easy to say with hindsight though.

There aren't many other players of significance that you didn't list. Even after 2016, Quick was still signed for 7 years, Carter and Brown for 6 more years, and all of them were in their 30's. Find the 30+ year olds with a half dozen years left on their contract that are traded. The biggest problem DL had was the contracts, and that started in 2012 with Quick. You can go back to Richards if you want. He had 9 years left on the contract when he got here. Just like Carter a few months later, the results were great, but the move itself was a bad one.

 

[LAKings88]

The problem is that aside from Kopi (who doesn’t do it consistently) the kings have no game breakers. That means everyone has to be solid and have buy in. The cup teams were solid throughout and younger. This team is stale and hasn’t been able to finish or generate a scary power play in years. Can’t win by offense or defense now.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I think the biggest issue we had after the 2nd cup and after the decent regular season in 2016, isn’t that we didn’t trade Carter, Lewis, Brown, Toffoli, Quick. It’s that we didn’t trade anyone of significance. The error was not about moving a specific key player, it was not moving any key player to freshen things up and keep the average age down. The argument should be about any single player, as we keep getting into.

We didn’t move any of the players we are now desperate go get rid of, when they had value and would have been moveable. That’s when a GM has to make the tough decisions to move guys at a time it’s going to upset more that half the fan base. I love DL, but that was his biggest failure, moreso than his rental moves IMO.

Tougher for Blake to do when he was new to the role, and for some was a controversial choice, but he (and DL before him) should have done it. Carter would have been a hugely ballsey move to trade when he was first appointed . Carter was coming off a 30g year and was the only player with value at that point. It was easy to see why you’d choose to keep him. His injury was never something that could have been predicted and definitely contributed to his rapid drop off. It’s all too easy to say with hindsight though.

This has happened to all significant teams in the cap era.

Chicago is going to ride Keith until the end and had Hossa's allergies save them from that one. Ask them how they like Seabrook right now.

Pittsburgh maybe a little different due to crosby/malkin ages but they still signed letang forever only to have him injured for 3/4 of the contract and they have brandon tanev till 2026.

Detroit even had Datsyuk and Zetterberg kicking around forever, Zetterberg (12 yrs) and Franzen (11 yrs) are still on their LTIR, Ericsson JUST got buried (6 yrs), Kronwall just retired.

Boston maybe did better than anyone in this regard yet they still have Chara on the roster, are paying for Beleskey and Seidenberg. Got out of Lucic, obviously, which was THE key move IMO. But they had guys legit get hurt and retire where the other teams didn't--Savard, Horton. Not that that's a benefit to the team, but salary-wise, it sure is. Thomas also retired, Ference moved on.

Guys slowly trickle out, they hardly ever get traded in one big kaboom.

 

[kings11]

There aren't many other players of significance that you didn't list. Even after 2016, Quick was still signed for 7 years, Carter and Brown for 6 more years, and all of them were in their 30's. Find the 30+ year olds with a half dozen years left on their contract that are traded. The biggest problem DL had was the contracts, and that started in 2012 with Quick. You can go back to Richards if you want. He had 9 years left on the contract when he got here. Just like Carter a few months later, the results were great, but the move itself was a bad one.

Those moves results in 2 Stanley Cups... sorry but there was nothing bad at all about those trades or even Quick's contract..