2019-20 Kings News/Rumors

[Lt Dan]

Please let TT sit

 

[lumbergh]

I did a double take when I saw who wrote this article.

Good article, but it leaps right over the possibility that Jonathan Quick has gotten old and too slow. The league has changed, but I don't think Quick has adapted his game or gotten better and faster to adjust. His rebound control has been off for a year now. He's always been good at making himself bigger, but shooters are more accurate now, especially going high on him. His lateral movement and reaction time also seem a touch slower; he no longer has that explosiveness that gets him across the crease in time. When he guesses, he's guessing wrong more often.

I don't think Quick's game will recover. I say this as a huge fan, and with no pleasure. He needs to realize that his time is up.

 

[Bandit]

Please let TT sit

Y tho? I mean I know it's not fun to watch him suck it up out there but he's DEFINITELY not gonna boost his trade value from the pressbox.

 

[KingPuckChoo]

Aw shucks, I cant say racist, sexist, mean sheet, no more without someone calling me out on my bs dang nabbit.

dangnabbit: "used when you are feeling happy but annoyed, used a lot by pikeys or farm yard folk or yokels".

bro, i'm offended by this

 

[KingPuckChoo]

anyone knows who was McLellan referring to when he says "some don't belong in this league"

and i'm looking for his version, not who you and i think sucks

 

[Bandit]

Good article, but it leaps right over the possibility that Jonathan Quick has gotten old and too slow. The league has changed, but I don't think Quick has adapted his game or gotten better and faster to adjust. His rebound control has been off for a year now. He's always been good at making himself bigger, but shooters are more accurate now, especially going high on him. His lateral movement and reaction time also seem a touch slower; he no longer has that explosiveness that gets him across the crease in time. When he guesses, he's guessing wrong more often.

I don't think Quick's game will recover. I say this as a huge fan, and with no pleasure. He needs to realize that his time is up.

It's right at the beginning?

"He's known throughout the NHL for his reaction speed. But in January, the Milford, Connecticut, native will be 34 years old, and it is easy to say Father Time has caught up to his style of play."

 

[crassbonanza]

Please let TT sit

I really want to see that Amadio-Kovalchuk-Porky line. I feel like that could be pretty f***ing exciting. Also, that Cliffy-Lizotte-Wags line has potential to be a forechecking nightmare for the opposition.

 

[Sol]

Good article, but it leaps right over the possibility that Jonathan Quick has gotten old and too slow. The league has changed, but I don't think Quick has adapted his game or gotten better and faster to adjust. His rebound control has been off for a year now. He's always been good at making himself bigger, but shooters are more accurate now, especially going high on him. His lateral movement and reaction time also seem a touch slower; he no longer has that explosiveness that gets him across the crease in time. When he guesses, he's guessing wrong more often.

I don't think Quick's game will recover. I say this as a huge fan, and with no pleasure. He needs to realize that his time is up.

Well it's not only that. Our defense sucks too. Quick played his best when our dmen forced bad shots and blocked passing lanes. Quick isnt good and he was never a system goalie. But our defense definitely was much better back then. Now there's a bunch of cross ice passes that rarely get blocked, Quick always over commits which is his problem but the defense doesn't really help him either.

Quicks not a good goalie anymore. He's too slow and his play style is actually bad for younger inexperienced Dmen since defensive awareness takes time to develop.

Lastly, Kings if the Kings want to try their options they should try Cal Petersen. If they're fine with tanking then so be it.


Not gonna win with arguably the worst goaltending tandem in the league, and close to the worst if not the worst defense in the league. Cal can maybe do a better job in winning games and bailing out the defense.


Quick hasn't been winning games nor coming up big. Almost every dangerous opportunity has ended up in the net. You're only as good as your goaltender.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

All I'm interested is Doughty's post game comments for tonight and the media taking it out of context.

Doughty: "yeah, we sucked tonight. Total shame. We kept it close with a good team most of the game and just couldn't score when it mattered most."

Van Media: "sarcastic Doughty doubles down on "that team" comment, says lucky goalie only reason Van could compete."

 

[Lt Dan]

Well it's not only that. Our defense sucks too. Quick played his best when our dmen forced bad shots and blocked passing lanes. Quick isnt good and he was never a system goalie. But our defense definitely was much better back then.

LOL ok bro

Lastly, Kings if the Kings want to try their options they should try Cal Petersen. If they're fine with tanking then so be it.

lol so you want to ruin Petersen?

Not gonna win with arguably the worst goaltending tandem in the league, and close to the worst if not the worst defense in the league. Cal can maybe do a better job in winning games and bailing out the defense.

We aren't going to win anyway . At least we aren't ruining our heir apparent and ensuring a better pick or chances of a better in the lottery[/QUOTE]

 

[Sol]

LOL ok bro



lol so you want to ruin Petersen?

So you think he was a system goalie?

Ten games to try him out is ruining him?

 

[KingCanadain1976]

No, that MaxPac deal was Muzzin, JAD and our 1st... that was the deal originally, after the 1st rd passed I’m sure the pick went lower but the original deal was what I said

tsn bob mackenzie disagrees on the first pic as the trade was made after first round was made so think however u wish but it was the 2nd round pick that was involved Your fight is with him not me

 

[Lt Dan]

Ten games to try him out is ruining him?

you are changing your story now

Not gonna win with arguably the worst goaltending tandem in the league, and close to the worst if not the worst defense in the league. Cal can maybe do a better job in winning games and bailing out the defense.
We aren't going to win anyway . At least we aren't ruining our heir apparent and ensuring a better pick or chances of a better in the lottery

Petersen already played 11 games last season and will likely be up at some point for a taste. The kings know how to develop goalies. Let the experts do their job.

 

[Sol]

you are changing your story now



Petersen already played 11 games last season and will likely be up at some point for a taste. The kings know how to develop goalies. Let the experts do their job.

How am I changing my story? I said TRY n,ot give him starter unless you guys need me to over simplify.

 

[Lt Dan]

How am I changing my story? I said TRY not give him starter unless you guys need to over simplify.

you never said 10 games your rant was about how quick sucks and petersen gives us a better chance of winning

Well it's not only that. Our defense sucks too. Quick played his best when our dmen forced bad shots and blocked passing lanes. Quick isnt good and he was never a system goalie. But our defense definitely was much better back then. Now there's a bunch of cross ice passes that rarely get blocked, Quick always over commits which is his problem but the defense doesn't really help him either.

Quicks not a good goalie anymore. He's too slow and his play style is actually bad for younger inexperienced Dmen since defensive awareness takes time to develop.

Lastly, Kings if the Kings want to try their options they should try Cal Petersen. If they're fine with tanking then so be it.


Not gonna win with arguably the worst goaltending tandem in the league, and close to the worst if not the worst defense in the league. Cal can maybe do a better job in winning games and bailing out the defense.


Quick hasn't been winning games nor coming up big. Almost every dangerous opportunity has ended up in the net. You're only as good as your goaltender.

please point out where you mentioned 10 games and where you didn't advocate replacing Quick with him

 

[Sol]

you never said 10 games your rant was about how quick sucks and petersen gives us a better chance of winning


please point out where you mentioned 10 games and where you didn't advocate replacing Quick with him

I said both goalies suck and to TRY Cal. Not give him starter. If I wanted Cal to replace Quick right off the bat I would have said give him starter.

Try implied a trial period. I didn't think I'd have to dumb it down that much. I said ten games after the fact when you clearly overlooked the fact I said TRY him.

 

[Lt Dan]

I said both goalies suck and to TRY Cal. Not give him starter. If I wanted Cal to replace Quick right off the bat I would have said give him starter.

Try implied a trial period. I didn't think I'd have to dumb it down that much. I said ten games after the fact when you clearly overlooked the fact I said TRY him.

try him can mean almost anything and you in no way spoke of limiting him

Besides, He was already tried last year and did very well. This year is about getting him ready for next year and beyond, not destroying his confidence ala Bernier

 

[Sol]

try him can mean almost anything and you in no way spoke of limiting him

Besides, He was already tried last year and did very well. This year is about getting him ready for next year and beyond, not destroying his confidence ala Bernier

Well when people say try they mean to give a shot. If I wanted Cal to take the starting position I'd make that clear. I know he did, and if he plays again this year consecutively for ten games or so and does very well. It's worth giving a deeper look. BUT that's if the Kings want to try to win this year and take chances, or if they are fine with tanking this year and not take a chance.

 

[regulate]

I said both goalies suck and to TRY Cal. Not give him starter. If I wanted Cal to replace Quick right off the bat I would have said give him starter.

Try implied a trial period. I didn't think I'd have to dumb it down that much. I said ten games after the fact when you clearly overlooked the fact I said TRY him.

So you want to roll with 3 goalies on the NHL roster? And two unproven's in the AHL while the team is on a roll and building positive strides within the organization? And why 10 games?

 

[Sol]

So you want to roll with 3 goalies on the NHL roster? And two unproven's in the AHL while the team is on a roll and building positive strides within the organization? And why 10 games?

The Kings are the parent organization so yeah its more important that they know that they got rather than worry about the Reign. If they can try out Cal and see if he can come up big and win games then that's someone you take a better look at.

Tell me what's more important the Kings goaltending situation or the reigns?

 

[Lt Dan]

The Kings are the parent organization so yeah its more important that they know that they got rather than worry about the Reign. If they can try out Cal and see if he can come up big and win games then that's someone you take a better look at.

Tell me what's more important the Kings goaltending situation or the reigns?

Not sacrificing the future is what matters. Especially for a meaningless present. This team wouldn't make the playoffs even if they has Hasek in his prime between the pipes
Better to get years of high level play from a young player than ruin him.
This is the exact reason why Bjornfort is down in Ontario as well.

 

[kings11]

tsn bob mackenzie disagrees on the first pic as the trade was made after first round was made so think however u wish but it was the 2nd round pick that was involved Your fight is with him not me

WTF are you talking about?? what trade was made??
The offer was leading right up to the draft dude, we must be talking about two different trades!
I'm talking about and have been for the past day, talking about the near death blow Blake and Co almost dealt the franchise when they were engaged in talks with the TML... obvoiusly Muzzin still ended up there but in the 1st month of the season the rumors were Muzzin, Pearson and our 2019 1st.. (I incorrectly thought it was Toffoli).. Keep in mind we were bad but not in last place and had a little run where we were a few points off the wildcard.. The Blues were dead last during this time, the Canes were rumored to be our competition for Nylander though TML wanted Pesce..

 

[fivehole32]

Quick is not a system goalie, however goalies rely on known quantities, as in how their defensive corp plays. When guys are learning on the job in the NHL or pairings are getting used to one another goals are going to go in. This also compound into more goals because after a while as a goalie you try to do entirely too much and thus get out of position.

Also I noticed guys flying the zone early last couple of game. It didn't lead to a goal every time, but it allowed some deadly chances.

 

[Johnny Utah]

If you go on hockey db, get ready for depression.

Lizotte = 12 games -0 goals.
Carter = -8
Kovy = -10
Lewis = 1 goal in 12 games

Sean Walker is the best player on the Kings this year.

 

[crassbonanza]

Sean Walker is the best player on the Kings this year.

This goes without saying. He may be a top 5 defensemean in the entire league so far this season.

Among Dmen with at least 100 minutes, he leads the league in CF%, FF% and SF%, is 3rd in xGF% and SCF%, is tied for 6th in even strength scoring and is 16th in GF%(which is the most impressive to me when you look at the Kings GF%).

You see those stats and assume he is being protected or given optimal zone starts, but he is second to last in Ozone start% and Ozone faceoff%.

Sean Walker is doing some very impressive things so far this year, who knows if he can keep it up, but so far he has been amazing.