2019-20 Kings News/Rumors

[kilowatt]

Anyone have a list of teams Kings have NEVER traded with?

I think this is pretty much correct. If it is, then it looks like we haven't traded with the Jets yet. Am I wrong? Can't think of anything.

Most recent trade with:

• Anaheim Ducks
  • Jun 20, 2008: 2008 1st round pick (CGY - #17 - Jake Gardiner), 2008 1st round pick (DAL - #28 - Viktor Tikhonov) for 2008 1st round pick (EDM - #12 - Tyler Myers)
• Arizona Coyotes
  • Feb 21, 2018: Darcy Kuemper for Scott Wedgewood, Tobias Rieder
• Boston Bruins
  • Jun 26, 2015: Martin Jones, Colin Miller, 2015 1st round pick (LAK - #13 - Jakub Zboril) for Milan Lucic
• Buffalo Sabres
  • Mar 5, 2014: Nicolas Deslauriers, Hudson Fasching for Brayden McNab, Jonathan Parker, 2015 2nd round pick (LAK - #43 - Erik Cernak), 2014 2nd round pick (LAK - #60 - Alex Lintuniemi)
• Calgary Flames:
  • Feb 25, 2019: Oscar Fantenberg for 2020 conditional 4th round pick
• Carolina Hurricanes
  • Feb 28, 2016: Valentin Zykov for Kris Versteeg
• Chicago Blackhawks
  • Feb 24, 2019: Spencer Watson for Matheson Iacopelli
• Colorado Avalanche
  • Mar 1, 2017: 2018 conditional 4th round pick* (conditions not met, no pick traded) for Jarome Iginla
• Columbus Blue Jackets
  • Jan 22, 2018: Jeff Zatkoff for Future considerations
• Dallas Stars
  • May 9, 2017: Ben Bishop for 2017 4th round pick
• Detroit Red Wings
  • Feb 26, 2008: Brad Stuart for 2009 4th round pick (DET - #120 - Ben Chiarot), 2008 2nd round pick (DET - #61 - Peter Delmas)
• Edmonton Oilers
  • Nov 14, 2017: Michael Cammalleri for Jussi Jokinen
• Florida Panthers
  • Feb 8, 2013: 2013 5th round pick (NJD - #130 - Gustav Possler) for Keaton Ellerby
• Minnesota Wild
  • Nov 21, 2018: Stephan Falkovsky for Pavel Jenys
• Montreal Canadiens
  • Jun 22, 2019: 2019 2nd round pick (CBJ - #50 - Samuel Fagemo) for 2019 3rd round pick (LAK - #64 - Mattias Norlinder), 2019 5th round pick (LAK - #126 - Jacob LeGuerrier)
• Nashville Predators
  • Jun 25, 2011: 2012 3rd round pick (TOR - #66 - Jimmy Vesey), 2011 6th round pick (LAK - #170 - Chase Balisy) for 2011 3rd round pick (NSH - #82 - Nick Shore)
• New Jersey Devils
  • Oct 6, 2015: Brian O'Neill for 2017 conditional 7th round pick* (NJD - #191 - Jocktan Chainey)
• New York Islanders
  • Jun 24, 2017: 2017 6th round pick (LAK - #165 - Arnaud Durandeau) for 2018 6th round pick (NYI - #165 - Johan Södergran)
• New York Rangers
  • Jan 4, 2014: Daniel Carcillo for 2014 7th round pick (NYR - #209 - Spencer Watson)
• Ottawa Senators
  • Feb 13, 2018: Marian Gaborik, Nick Shore for Dion Phaneuf, Nate Thompson
• Philadelphia Flyers
  • Jun 27, 2015: 2015 4th round pick (LAK - #104 - Mikhail Vorobyov), 2016 6th round pick (LAK - #172 - Anthony Salinitri) for 2015 4th round pick (CBJ - #99 - Austin Wagner)
• Pittsburgh Penguins
  • Nov 14, 2018: Tanner Pearson for Carl Hagelin
• San Jose Sharks
  • Mar 5, 2015: 2016 conditional 7th round pick* (conditions not met, no pick traded) for James Livingston
• St Louis Blues
  • Jun 21, 2008: 2008 7th round pick (STL - #185 - Paul Karpowich) for 2009 7th round pick (STL - #198 - Nic Dowd)
• Tampa Bay Lightning
  • June 13, 2018: Andy Andreoff for Peter Budaj
• Toronto Maple Leafs
  • Feb 5, 2020: Kyle Clifford, Jack Campbell for Trevor Moore, 2020 3rd round pick (CBJ), 2021 conditional 3rd round pick (TOR)
• Vancouver Canucks
  • Dec 8, 2017: Nic Dowd for Jordan Subban
• Vegas Golden Knights
  • Feb 5, 2018: Zac Leslie for Future considerations
• Washington Capitals
  • Feb 21, 2019: Carl Hagelin for 2019 3rd round pick (WSH - #87 - Lukas Parik)
• Winnipeg Jets
  • ...nothin

 

[kovacro]

If you can believe it, Wyshynski reported that the Flyers are also looking at Carter

C’mon Philly, you know you want him back.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Have we gotten anything from those future considerations yet? haha

I believe gaining additional contract space on the reserve list is what was gained, lol.

 

[kovacro]

History of LA Kings trades:

History of NHL trades by the Los Angeles Kings - NHL Trade Tracker

Wpg/LA: Paul Fenton for Gilles Hamel in 1988

Edit: No trades with this current version of the Jets.

 

[tomd]

Could be that Toffoli might be headed to Philly? Hexy was in FLA last night ...

Los Angeles Kings

Ron Hextall, now an employee of the Kings, is in Florida scouting Flyers-Panthers on Thursday night. The Kings have been scouting the Flyers frequently, but Hextall’s presence takes things up a notch. No one in L.A. knows Philadelphia better than Hextall and the team would likely not make a move without his seal of approval. Perhaps they will get that nod from Hextall on a potential return for Toffoli after tonight’s game.

How do you scout a team for draft picks?

 

[Peter James Bond II]

C’mon Philly, you know you want him back.

There will be an uprising on Broad Street...they hated him when he was good and scoring 40 goals! Wait until they see his 65 mph shot, his lost 5th and 4th gears and cannot / will not pass to his wingers.
Wow. The main reasons I am not driving 45 miles South to see the Stadium game tomorrow? I do not want to pay $150 to see Carter, Lewis, and Wagner.

 

[kilowatt]

the hate on these boards for wagner - the youngest and fastest player on the kings - has reached critical mass

 

[Maynard]

Happy Valentine’s Day everyone.

Saw this on a FB and thought I’d share. I don’t know who made it.

 

[KopitarGOAT420]

the hate on these boards for wagner - the youngest and fastest player on the kings - has reached critical mass

Really?? Just because 1 poster said they don't want to drive 45 miles and pay $150 to watch him (and 2 other players) and another poster (me) in another thread left him out of his completely fictitious projected forward lines for next year??

Seems a little dramatic to me...

 

[kilowatt]

Really?? Just because 1 poster said they don't want to drive 45 miles and pay $150 to watch him (and 2 other players) and another poster (me) in another thread left him out of his completely fictitious projected forward lines for next year??

Seems a little dramatic to me...

shall i compile the list of people hating on him cause its valentines day and ive got the time

 

[KopitarGOAT420]

shall i compile the list of people hating on him cause its valentines day and ive got the time

Hahahaha no no that's alright. I just haven't seen anything else about him that could be considered 'hate' on these threads recently.

You have to understand why he's a pretty frustrating player to watch most nights. I'm just tired of being half asleep watching Kings games then thinking "OHHHHHH WHATS THIS?!?!? A BREAKAWAY?!?!?" Just to watch the guy fire the puck a foot wide or shoot it straight into the goalies chest.

But you're right he is VERY young (and fast) so we probably should cut him some slack. It's just frustrating at times because he's kind of a tease.

 

[kilowatt]

Hahahaha no no that's alright. I just haven't seen anything else about him that could be considered 'hate' on these threads recently.

You have to understand why he's a pretty frustrating player to watch most nights. I'm just tired of being half asleep watching Kings games then thinking "OHHHHHH WHATS THIS?!?!? A BREAKAWAY?!?!?" Just to watch the guy fire the puck a foot wide or shoot it straight into the goalies chest.

But you're right he is VERY young (and fast) so we probably should cut him some slack. It's just frustrating at times because he's kind of a tease.

I’m a fan of Wagner even if this is all we ever get out of him. Tons of speed, always chirping, throws hits. For a fourth liner, that all sounds pretty great. If he can learn to slow the game down a bit, he could be a really great player in the league. Especially if he got a chance to play with some more skilled players.

As it stands, last year’s 21 points - in only 62 games - is the the third-best rookie season for a Kings player since the last cup win. Iafallo is second with 25 points in 75 games. Kempe is first with 16 goals and 37 points in 81 games.

 

[KINGS17]

How do you scout a team for draft picks?

You don't, you scout them for B-level prospects that may help your club some day, and future trades or waiver pickups.

 

[tomd]

You don't, you scout them for B-level prospects that may help your club some day.

At an NHL game? What B-level prospects were playing for the Flyers last night?

 

[KINGS17]

At an NHL game? What B-level prospects were playing for the Flyers last night?

I edited my post to add a couple of things. Not every player on the Flyers roster is a great NHL player. There are other reasons to be there as well, such as talking to scouts from other organizations. He may have also hung around to watch the Flyers AHL affiliate while he was there.

I don't think Hextall is wasting his time by being there.

 

[BigKing]

Wagner's failed breakaway chances are one of the most exciting things this team provides.

He isn't the 18% shooting percentage guy from last season but he also isn't the 2% or whatever guy from this year. If he tops out at around 8-10 goals from the 4th line while also tossing at least a couple of hits per game, why are we upset?

I defend Lewis to the point that he played for both Cup teams, provided big plays in both runs and because 4th line guys don't generally pop in 15 goals and 40 points. They are 4th or 3rd line for a reason. Now, his time has clearly passed so I'm not defending him being in the lineup now but I will say that his career high in goals is 14 and it came in what you could say was his 7th full NHL season. Wagner had 12 goals in 62 games on a trash hockey team last season. He's a 4th round pick while Lewis was a 1st round pick.

Anyways, I don't think that calling a 4th round pick "the new Trevor Lewis" is an insult since the old Lewis has made crucial plays in some of the greatest moment in Kings history and has won the Unsung Hero award numerous times. I mean, getting a guy in the 4th round that is equal to a guy that was a regular player on the best Kings teams of all time while being universally loved by his teammates and coaches is pretty damn good. We will be lucky if that is what he tops out at and even luckier if he is better. As it stands, he's already basically matched Lewis's career year as a rookie in fewer games and ice time.

If you want to insult him, call him the new Craig Johnson. That guy was a constant reminder of how bad the Gretzky trade was, all speed/barely any finish, killed Deadmarsh and now coaches the Junior Ducks.

 

[KopitarGOAT420]

I’m a fan of Wagner even if this is all we ever get out of him. Tons of speed, always chirping, throws hits. For a fourth liner, that all sounds pretty great. If he can learn to slow the game down a bit, he could be a really great player in the league. Especially if he got a chance to play with some more skilled players.

As it stands, last year’s 21 points - in only 62 games - is the the third-best rookie season for a Kings player since the last cup win. Iafallo is second with 25 points in 75 games. Kempe is first with 16 goals and 37 points in 81 games.

You know what?? **** it, I'm convinced. You and @BigKing got me beat here. I'm Team Wagner

 

[DoktorJeep]

Wagner's failed breakaway chances are one of the most exciting things this team provides.

He isn't the 18% shooting percentage guy from last season but he also isn't the 2% or whatever guy from this year. If he tops out at around 8-10 goals from the 4th line while also tossing at least a couple of hits per game, why are we upset?

I defend Lewis to the point that he played for both Cup teams, provided big plays in both runs and because 4th line guys don't generally pop in 15 goals and 40 points. They are 4th or 3rd line for a reason. Now, his time has clearly passed so I'm not defending him being in the lineup now but I will say that his career high in goals is 14 and it came in what you could say was his 7th full NHL season. Wagner had 12 goals in 62 games on a trash hockey team last season. He's a 4th round pick while Lewis was a 1st round pick.

Anyways, I don't think that calling a 4th round pick "the new Trevor Lewis" is an insult since the old Lewis has made crucial plays in some of the greatest moment in Kings history and has won the Unsung Hero award numerous times. I mean, getting a guy in the 4th round that is equal to a guy that was a regular player on the best Kings teams of all time while being universally loved by his teammates and coaches is pretty damn good. We will be lucky if that is what he tops out at and even luckier if he is better. As it stands, he's already basically matched Lewis's career year as a rookie in fewer games and ice time.

If you want to insult him, call him the new Craig Johnson. That guy was a constant reminder of how bad the Gretzky trade was, all speed/barely any finish, killed Deadmarsh and now coaches the Junior Ducks.

Agree 100%, except CJ works for the Kings

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Hahahaha no no that's alright. I just haven't seen anything else about him that could be considered 'hate' on these threads recently.

You have to understand why he's a pretty frustrating player to watch most nights. I'm just tired of being half asleep watching Kings games then thinking "OHHHHHH WHATS THIS?!?!? A BREAKAWAY?!?!?" Just to watch the guy fire the puck a foot wide or shoot it straight into the goalies chest.

But you're right he is VERY young (and fast) so we probably should cut him some slack. It's just frustrating at times because he's kind of a tease.

I think @BigKing has it covered but if you have a 4th liner with the capability to even GET those breakaways to keep the opposition honest, you're in a good spot.

I think the frustration comes from we want him to pot a few more and personally I think we stunted his offensive IQ but putting him in the show so fast instead of giving him top six time in the AHL but if he is what he is that's all you can ask for a 4th liner (except to develop more defensive responsibility as well but that will come).

 

[KingsFan7824]

Wagner was the 99th player taken in his draft. While it's not unheard of for a guy taken in the middle rounds to become a quality player, he's always had his speed right? If he had high end talent to combine with that speed, he would've been at least a top 5 pick. As long as we keep the expectations around 99th pick expectations, then I think we can be happy with Wagner. Go back and look at the 99th picks over the last few decades. Wagner, as is, is one of the better ones.

If he ever becomes more than a fast checker, it will only be a plus. Laperriere once scored 140 points in junior. It was in the Q, so maybe a bit inflated, but not everyone on his team was scoring 140 points. He was the 158th player taken. Keep the expectations realistic, and Wagner is fine.

 

[funky]

Wagner still has room to grow and it’s not like we have fleet of foot line mates to compliment him. He forecheck hard, gets chances and once he refines his game should be a defensive monster because of his speed to get back and forth fast and disrupt the plays. He is not scared to throw a hit and he is still the youngest pup in the lineup.

We need all different types of talents to make a team whole.

Remember with as much talent as the Oilers has Gretzky wasnt just flanked by Kurri, Sather added guys like Semenko and Tikkanen some years as they could play a specific role. Wagner has the skills to play that disruptive role and pot some points on the bottom line.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Wagner has some grit to his game too -he can fight. I like him - he just seems inconsistent. He should add hitting to his game so he has speed, hitting and fighting.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Wagner still has room to grow and it’s not like we have fleet of foot line mates to compliment him. He forecheck hard, gets chances and once he refines his game should be a defensive monster because of his speed to get back and forth fast and disrupt the plays. He is not scared to throw a hit and he is still the youngest pup in the lineup.

We need all different types of talents to make a team whole.

Remember with as much talent as the Oilers has Gretzky wasnt just flanked by Kurri, Sather added guys like Semenko and Tikkanen some years as they could play a specific role. Wagner has the skills to play that disruptive role and pot some points on the bottom line.

 

[BigKing]

Agree 100%, except CJ works for the Kings

Well that explains a lot. Him and Modry. Hell, the entire late 90s Kings are here haha.

 

[Ollie Weeks]

Well that explains a lot. Him and Modry. Hell, the entire late 90s Kings are here haha.

I am concern.