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Ziggy Stardust said:
Makes one wonder if there’s an issue with the locker room, leadership and makeup of this team. Kovalchuk is having a positive impact on a team that is trying to sneak into a playoff spot.
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Carter needs to go....matters not that he is 30% better this year - which still puts him as underperforming and he's no leader. Everyone he's played with for past 2 years is worse,
when playing on his line.

Time for big changes.
 
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ibleedkings said:
Kings have been allergic to talent/skill/creativity for quite some time unfortunately.
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Yes, so true.

Get your head around this. Consider the Avs getting Burakovsky, Donskoi and also getting Nichushkin out of Russia - all for peanuts or jellybeans, basically.
There's 3 players that are now having fantastic seasons and all 3 woukd be the best King forwards not named Kopitar or Iafallo....but Kempe is at least equal
to Nichsuhkin, though. I'd rather have any of these 3 than Carter, Toffoli, Amadio, Luff, Brown, Lewis, Wagner, on and on.

Why can't the Kings EVER (since maybe Justin Williams...and Iafallo can now qualify as well) actually sign / acquire a capable forward?
How does Saklic get 3 like this in a months' work??
 
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Axl Rhoadz said:
If this happens, another strike on Blake's record. I never liked how they were handling the Kovy situation and this would be the cherry on top.
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What if it's the players in the locker who are the problem? How is that on Blake if he's saddled with contracts he can't get rid of? Of course nobody was going to touch Kovalchuk at a cap hit of $6,500,000, but $750,000 is a much easier contract to take on.
 
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Ziggy Stardust said:
What if it's the players in the locker who are the problem? How is that on Blake if he's saddled with contracts he can't get rid of? Of course nobody was going to touch Kovalchuk at a cap hit of $6,500,000, but $750,000 is a much easier contract to take on.
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Which contracts is Blake saddled with?

Quick - I'll give you that one.
Brown - Yeah probably, but could be traded if the Kings are willing to retain some of his cap hit.
Kopitar - Robitaille and Blake had every bit as much to do with his deal as Lombardi did.
Carter - Could have and should have been moved after re-signing Kopitar.
Doughty - That's all on Blake.

Managed to get rid of Kovalchuk, but Blake put that saddle on the tired old mule. Good thing for the Kings they still have his cap hit of $6.25M next season.

If I am leaving a player out that is holding the Kings back that Blake could have sold off let me know. Must be Clifford, Lewis, or Martinez that is holding them back now, right?

Other than Quick, Kopitar and Doughty, which contracts are the ones Blake can't get rid of?
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
What if it's the players in the locker who are the problem? How is that on Blake if he's saddled with contracts he can't get rid of? Of course nobody was going to touch Kovalchuk at a cap hit of $6,500,000, but $750,000 is a much easier contract to take on.
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How could it be the players? Kovalchuck’s attitude was always good. If it’s on anyone, it on the coaches, and by extension the GM.
 
KINGS17 said:
Which contracts is Blake saddled with?

Quick - I'll give you that one.
Brown - Yeah probably, but could be traded if the Kings are willing to retain some of his cap hit.
Kopitar - Robitaille and Blake had every bit as much to do with his deal as Lombardi did.
Carter - Could have and should have been moved after re-signing Kopitar.
Doughty - That's all on Blake.

Managed to get rid of Kovalchuk, but Blake put that saddle on the tired old mule. Good thing for the Kings they still have his cap hit of $6.25M next season.

If I am leaving a player out that is holding the Kings back that Blake could have sold off let me know. Must be Clifford, Lewis, or Martinez that is holding them back now, right?

Other than Quick, Kopitar and Doughty, which contracts are the ones Blake can't get rid of?
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Carter and Brown are signed for two more seasons and combine for over $11M, and they're 35 now and will be 37 when those contracts expire. Let me know how many teams are lining up to add those contracts.
 
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Bandit said:
How could it be the players? Kovalchuck’s attitude was always good. If it’s on anyone, it on the coaches, and by extension the GM.
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They wouldn't work with him or adapt to what he brings on the ice. I guess it's like forcing a square peg through a round hole. Look at how Kovalchuk never got the chance to play with Kopitar again after what seemed like a handful of games together. Then he had to play on a line with Jeff Carter, who plays like he's already checked out.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
Carter and Brown are signed for two more seasons and combine for over $11M, and they're 35 now and will be 37 when those contracts expire. Let me know how many teams are lining up to add those contracts.
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As I said Carter should have been moved after Kopitar was re-signed. Carter not being moved is on Blake.

Brown could be moved now, if the Kings retained some of his cap hit.

You did nothing to refute either of those two positions. We all know how old Carter and Brown are, and what their contracts look like. Blake is responsible for them still being on the roster.
 
KINGS17 said:
As I said Carter should have been moved after Kopitar was re-signed. Carter not being moved is on Blake.

Brown could be moved now, if the Kings retained some of his cap hit.

You did nothing to refute either of those two positions. We all know how old Carter and Brown are, and what their contracts look like. Blake is responsible for them still being on the roster.
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Yeah, it's all on Blake for not forcing a team to take on those bad contracts. Maybe Blake can learn from Lombardi and embarrass his captain and strip him of the captaincy as well. Perhaps that could force a trade.
 
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Peter James Bond II said:
Yes, so true.

Get your head around this. Consider the Avs getting Burakovsky, Donskoi and also getting Nichushkin out of Russia - all for peanuts or jellybeans, basically.
There's 3 players that are now having fantastic seasons and all 3 woukd be the best King forwards not named Kopitar or Iafallo....but Kempe is at least equal
to Nichsuhkin, though. I'd rather have any of these 3 than Carter, Toffoli, Amadio, Luff, Brown, Lewis, Wagner, on and on.

Why can't the Kings EVER (since maybe Justin Williams...and Iafallo can now qualify as well) actually sign / acquire a capable forward?
How does Saklic get 3 like this in a months' work??
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Nichushkin was pretty awful last season in Dallas and I believe he was bought out by them. Sakic took a flyer on him and he’s been alright this year. He had a pretty good stretch of games recently but outside of that he’s been pretty mediocre.

Donskoi was an UFA signing and never had scored more than 15 goals in a season coming into this year. If I’m a free agent, I’m likely to choose Colorado as they are an up and coming club over LA who isn’t in a position to succeed for sometime. Kings haven’t always had the most successful dealings in the free agent market.

I would suspect if those two were in LA, they would be struggling. I don’t believe they would be any better than what we currently have.

The one I do agree with you on is Burakovsky. Classic example of a guy needing a change of scenery and an opportunity to assert himself into a bigger role with expanded minutes. Just never seemed to get that shot in Washington. Sakic paid a 2nd and 3rd and took a bit of a gamble which has paid off in spades.

Burakovsky is a talented player and is starting to understand the league better at 24. He should be a 55 point player this year with the potential to maintain that going forward with the Avs.

Would have been tough to pay that price the Avs paid to acquire him.
 
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Ziggy Stardust said:
They wouldn't work with him or adapt to what he brings on the ice. I guess it's like forcing a square peg through a round hole. Look at how Kovalchuk never got the chance to play with Kopitar again after what seemed like a handful of games together. Then he had to play on a line with Jeff Carter, who plays like he's already checked out.
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Yeah but I mean him not getting ice with Kopitar is coach. Carter being an insufficient option as 2c is on the GM.
 
Bandit said:
Yeah but I mean him not getting ice with Kopitar is coach. Carter being an insufficient option as 2c is on the GM.
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I would love to see Carter gone, but his performance and contract and the supposed rumors of him sulking at the thought of a trade just kills his market value. I don't think they're hanging onto Carter due to sentimentality.

It's also been suggested that Kopitar likes playing with Iafallo, which is why the two seem to be glued together. It's like Gretzky and Robitaille not being put on the same line under many different coaches. For some reason they were not paired together because of reasons we don't know.
 
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Ziggy Stardust said:
Yeah, it's all on Blake for not forcing a team to take on those bad contracts. Maybe Blake can learn from Lombardi and embarrass his captain and strip him of the captaincy as well. Perhaps that could force a trade.
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Great job here of posting absolutely nothing.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
I would love to see Carter gone, but his performance and contract and the supposed rumors of him sulking at the thought of a trade just kills his market value. I don't think they're hanging onto Carter due to sentimentality.

It's also been suggested that Kopitar likes playing with Iafallo, which is why the two seem to be glued together. It's like Gretzky and Robitaille not being put on the same line under many different coaches. For some reason they were not paired together because of reasons we don't know.
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I’d still blame that on coach though. “Oh you want to play with Iafallo? Eat a dick, you’re playing with Kovalchuck”.

anyhow it’s all academic. I don’t think Blake has done a miserable job to date, but I just don’t trust him going back 20 years, right or wrong.
 
carter strikes me as the type of person that can motivate himself for a Stanley cup playoff run, but if your team isn't making the playoff, he's doing the minimum possible on the clock. I get it, just think he'd be rejuvenated in the payoffs, playing on say, Sidney Crosby's right wing.
 
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raswilliam said:
carter strikes me as the type of person that can motivate himself for a Stanley cup playoff run, but if your team isn't making the playoff, he's doing the minimum possible on the clock. I get it, just think he'd be rejuvenated in the payoffs, playing on say, Sidney Crosby's right wing.
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Pretty good way to describe him.
 
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