Speculation: 2019-20 Expected Blackhawks Roster Part 4 - To Eberle or Not to Eberle - that is the question..

[Blackhawkswincup]

What is issue with Kahun as passenger alongside Debrincat/Strome? He looked good in that role this past year

Outside of the few Perlini hot games there was no better fit with Debrincat/Strome. Given Perlini is so prone to inconsistency we should slot in Kahun to start on that line

If someone gets hot or proves a better fit then so be it but as of now Kahun is best option

 

[RememberTheRoar]

What is issue with Kahun as passenger alongside Debrincat/Strome? He looked good in that role this past year

Outside of the few Perlini hot games there was no better fit with Debrincat/Strome. Given Perlini is so prone to inconsistency we should slot in Kahun to start on that line

If someone gets hot or proves a better fit then so be it but as of now Kahun is best option

They're using Corsi and Expected goals as the main rationale.

They're showing how DeBrincat and Strome were worse in both those categories when they were with Kahun as opposed to not being with Kahun.

 

[BK]

They're using Corsi and Expected goals as the main rationale.

They're showing how DeBrincat and Strome were worse in both those categories when the were with Kahun as opposed to not being with Kahun.

Which is fair but I am not sure I agree with they numbers on this.

Kahun was good in a middle 6 role. He was close to a .5 PP player as a rookie. He is responsible and plays hard.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I’ve said it before but I’d love to see Connor Brown brought in this summer. He’d be a great third wheel middle six guy. I think he’d be a good fit with Toews/Kane or Strome/Cat and if somebody is hot/impressing he slots in the bottom six seamlessly.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I cant recall but did Hawks try for any extended time a Saad-Toews-Kane line?

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

What is issue with Kahun as passenger alongside Debrincat/Strome? He looked good in that role this past year

Outside of the few Perlini hot games there was no better fit with Debrincat/Strome. Given Perlini is so prone to inconsistency we should slot in Kahun to start on that line

If someone gets hot or proves a better fit then so be it but as of now Kahun is best option

That’s a soft line and Kahun while a gamer is a passenger that has his strengths mildly amplified while his issues exacerbated playing with those two. Neither him nor Cat should be the feistiest player on a line in any situation but the PP.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I’ve said it before but I’d love to see Connor Brown brought in this summer. He’d be a great third wheel middle six guy. I think he’d be a good fit with Toews/Kane or Strome/Cat and if somebody is hot/impressing he slots in the bottom six seamlessly.

I'd be OK with that. He played with Strome in the past as well, so probably would fit in well with him and Debrincat.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

New idea

- Trade Sikura + Forsling to Kings for RW Tyler Toffoli + Kings 2020 7th
- Trade Fortin + Hawks 2020 7th round pick to Lightning for Callahan + Lightning 2020 2nd
- Re-sign Kampf (1.4M x 2) and Perlini (1.15M x 2)
- Sign Kubalik
- Promote Joker + Delia + Highmore to roster

Saad-Toews-Kane
Debrincat-Strome-Toffoli
Kubalik-Anisimov-Kahun
Caggiula-Kampf-Callahan
(Perlini + Highmore as extra's)

Keith-Jokiharju
Gustafsson-Murphy
Koekkoek-Seabrook
(Dahlstrom)

Crawford
Delia

Leaves Hawks with about 3.5M in cap room assuming 81M cap. Toffoli , Crawford and Callahan come off books in summer of 2020 opens a ton of cap room for any possible Debrincat , Strome and potentially Gus/Toffoli extensions

Even with questionable D to me that team should be playoff team. Naturally on D if a kid impresses we can accommodate them easily

Thoughts?

-- As you can see I am starting to believe Forsling is on way out and why I have him traded in most of my roster's --

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Capfriendly has come a long way since it launched

 

[AmericanDream]

Toffoli was pretty terrible last year, I wouldn't move both Sikura and Forsling for him...I likely wouldn't one of them for him..just go with Perlini/Kahun in that role, keep the assets to move on something better. Happy to bring Callahan in though, he would help the 4th line out and we would be able to get an asset back to take his cap hit on.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I just posted this on the main board, if signing any UFA forward costs the Hawks Saad, I'm against the signing because I'd rather have Saad at $6M than any UFA F not named Panarin.

I don't want any of these guys at the price it would take to get them, and I might even include Panarin in that group. They all seem too expensive and there is a significant chance any contract signed this offseason is immediately regrettable.

Is it horrible that I think signing FA is a bad move in almost every circumstance?

 

[RememberTheRoar]

I just posted this on the main board, if signing any UFA forward costs the Hawks Saad, I'm against the signing because I'd rather have Saad at $6M than any UFA F not named Panarin.

I don't want any of these guys at the price it would take to get them, and I might even include Panarin in that group. They all seem too expensive and there is a significant chance any contract signed this offseason is immediately regrettable.

Is it horrible that I think signing FA is a bad move in almost every circumstance?

I’m not too far off where you’re at. While Saad doesn’t put up huge overall point totals, he’s still a threat to go off for nearly 30 goals while being willing to play a two-way game with some speed.

He may not be Selke-good defensively, but he at least puts in the effort.

I think Saad is a good second-liner, and fine third-wheel on your first line.

People saying he’s a third-liner (like Zawaski in his new podcast) just because that’s where Colliton chose to slot him are out to lunch, IMO.

The one guy I’d be happy to sacrifice Saad for is Pavelski, even with the age difference. If he walks from SJ, Hawks should bring him in on a short-term high-dollar deal. He’s a beast.

 

[piteus]

I’m not too far off where you’re at. While Saad doesn’t put up huge overall point totals, he’s still a threat to go off for nearly 30 goals while being willing to play a two-way game with some speed.

He may not be Selke-good defensively, but he at least puts in the effort.

I think Saad is a good second-liner, and fine third-wheel on your first line.

People saying he’s a third-liner (like Zawaski in his new podcast) just because that’s where Colliton chose to slot him are out to lunch, IMO.

The one guy I’d be happy to sacrifice Saad for is Pavelski, even with the age difference. If he walks from SJ, Hawks should bring him in on a short-term high-dollar deal. He’s a beast.

I like Saad and we haven't even seen him at his best yet. Saad is best in the post season when he's focused and physicality matters. Saad can also skate which keeps opponent's DMen honest.

That said, if the Hawks want to sign Panarin, Saad and Anisimov probably have to go as Seabrook's contract will be here another 2 years.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

I like Saad and we haven't even seen him at his best yet. Saad is best in the post season when he's focused and physicality matters. Saad can also skate which keeps opponent's DMen honest.

That said, if the Hawks want to sign Panarin, Saad and Anisimov probably have to go as Seabrook's contract will be here another 2 years.

Agree, but @Kaners Bald Spot’s post was talking about guys not named Panarin, I was working under that same premise with my response

 

[nmgrbhfn]

New idea

- Trade Sikura + Forsling to Kings for RW Tyler Toffoli + Kings 2020 7th
- Trade Fortin + Hawks 2020 7th round pick to Lightning for Callahan + Lightning 2020 2nd
- Re-sign Kampf (1.4M x 2) and Perlini (1.15M x 2)
- Sign Kubalik
- Promote Joker + Delia + Highmore to roster

Saad-Toews-Kane
Debrincat-Strome-Toffoli
Kubalik-Anisimov-Kahun
Caggiula-Kampf-Callahan
(Perlini + Highmore as extra's)

Keith-Jokiharju
Gustafsson-Murphy
Koekkoek-Seabrook
(Dahlstrom)

Crawford
Delia

Leaves Hawks with about 3.5M in cap room assuming 81M cap. Toffoli , Crawford and Callahan come off books in summer of 2020 opens a ton of cap room for any possible Debrincat , Strome and potentially Gus/Toffoli extensions

Even with questionable D to me that team should be playoff team. Naturally on D if a kid impresses we can accommodate them easily

Thoughts?

-- As you can see I am starting to believe Forsling is on way out and why I have him traded in most of my roster's --

Your post is thought provoking but I don’t think they can sit Perlini - Perlini has to be played at the beginning of next season or he will demand a trade. The Hawks will want to play him too to see what they have - if Perlini disappears they will dump him. So if he is playing at the beginning of the season and starts getting scratched expect him to be moved.

 

[Crow]

I’d give Perlini at least 20 games before considering moving him. He has showed he can be inconsistent but also showed serious potential.

I know his overall body of work here wasn’t good but at the end he was looking like a promising goal scorer

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Your post is thought provoking but I don’t think they can sit Perlini - Perlini has to be played at the beginning of next season or he will demand a trade. The Hawks will want to play him too to see what they have - if Perlini disappears they will dump him. So if he is playing at the beginning of the season and starts getting scratched expect him to be moved.

Really?

Perlini did nothing to make it so he is guaranteed a roster spot let alone playing everyday

 

[AmericanDream]

Really?

Perlini did nothing to make it so he is guaranteed a roster spot let alone playing everyday

Perlini scored more goals in about 15 less games than the guy you are trying to trade him and Forsling for...

 

[Rolo]

To CLB - Anisimov, Perlini, Forsling
To CHI - Rights to Duchene, Kukan, CLB 2019 3rd, CLB 2014 5th

To TOR - CLB 2019 3rd, John Hayden
To CHI - Connor Brown

To CGY - CHI 2019 3rd
To CHI - Michael Frolik, CGY 2019 5th

Saad (25/25) - Toews (25/40) - Frolik (20/15) - SHUTDOWN LINE
Kubalik (20/15) - Duchene (30/45) - Kane (40/55) - OFFENSIVE LINE
Cat (35/40) - Strome (20/40) - Brown (10/20) - BUM SLAYERS
Caggiula (15/15) - Kampf (10/10) - Kahun (15/10) - DYNAMIC 4TH
Highmore

Keith (2/30) - Jokiharju (4/30)
Gustafsson (14/40) - Murphy (4/15)
Kukan (2/12) - Seabrook (6/20)
Koekkoek/Dahlstrom

Crawford
Delia

PP1
Cat-Duchene-Toews-Kane
Gustafsson

PP2-
Saad-Strome-Kubalik
Jokiharju-Seabrook

PK Fs
Kampf-Frolik
Toews-Saad
Caggiula-Brown (no faceoffs)

 

[featherhawk]

To CLB - Anisimov, Perlini, Forsling
To CHI - Rights to Duchene, Kukan, CLB 2019 3rd, CLB 2014 5th

To TOR - CLB 2019 3rd, John Hayden
To CHI - Connor Brown

To CGY - CHI 2019 3rd
To CHI - Michael Frolik, CGY 2019 5th

Saad (25/25) - Toews (25/40) - Frolik (20/15) - SHUTDOWN LINE
Kubalik (20/15) - Duchene (30/45) - Kane (40/55) - OFFENSIVE LINE
Cat (35/40) - Strome (20/40) - Brown (10/20) - BUM SLAYERS
Caggiula (15/15) - Kampf (10/10) - Kahun (15/10) - DYNAMIC 4TH
Highmore

Keith (2/30) - Jokiharju (4/30)
Gustafsson (14/40) - Murphy (4/15)
Kukan (2/12) - Seabrook (6/20)
Koekkoek/Dahlstrom

Crawford
Delia

PP1
Cat-Duchene-Toews-Kane
Gustafsson

PP2-
Saad-Strome-Kubalik
Jokiharju-Seabrook

PK Fs
Kampf-Frolik
Toews-Saad
Caggiula-Brown (no faceoffs)

not opposed to that lineup however I am Leary of Duchene I am not sure that he will sign a friendly enough deal both $$ and Term wise and if Kubalik players with Duchene and Kane I think he goes 25-25 easy, Duchene likely scores more like 20

 

[RememberTheRoar]

A few points from Powers’ new article:

-Seems like Boqvist should play in the AHL next season, but the team is leaving the door open to send him back to London.

-“Everything I’ve heard is the Blackhawks are deliberating between Bowen Byram, Dylan Cozens, Kirby Dach, Alex Turcotte and Trevor Zegras for the third pick.”

-Powers does not believe the Hawks will select Byram, and believes Turcotte will be the pick.

-Powers said the Hawks organization also has a strong relationship with the Badgers coaching staff, but didn’t cite that as the main reason for taking Turcotte, but did highlight it as a benefit.

-Negotiations have started on Kampf’s new deal, and he “will likely be the Blackhawks’ third- or fourth-line center next season.”

-“The Blackhawks haven’t completely ruled out bringing back Marcus Kruger, according to a source. The Blackhawks will likely allow him to hit free agency and see where his value is in the market.”

 

[AmericanDream]

A few points from Powers’ new article:

-Seems like Boqvist should play in the AHL next season, but the team is leaving the door open to send him back to London.

-“Everything I’ve heard is the Blackhawks are deliberating between Bowen Byram, Dylan Cozens, Kirby Dach, Alex Turcotte and Trevor Zegras for the third pick.”

-Powers does not believe the Hawks will select Byram, and believes Turcotte will be the pick.

-Powers said the Hawks organization also has a strong relationship with the Badgers coaching staff, but didn’t cite that as the main reason for taking Turcotte, but did highlight it as a benefit.

-Negotiations have started on Kampf’s new deal, and he “will likely be the Blackhawks’ third- or fourth-line center next season.”

-“The Blackhawks haven’t completely ruled out bringing back Marcus Kruger, according to a source. The Blackhawks will likely allow him to hit free agency and see where his value is in the market.”

I am not shooting the messenger, but lol at most of this stuff...

and I like Powers by the way, but all he does here is literally throw out things we already know and would be common sense stuff.

-Negotiations have started on Kampf’s new deal, and he “will likely be the Blackhawks’ third- or fourth-line center - next season.” - ummm, what the hell else is he going to be here?? thanks for the revelation..

-“Everything I’ve heard is the Blackhawks are deliberating between Bowen Byram, Dylan Cozens, Kirby Dach, Alex Turcotte and Trevor Zegras for the third pick.” - thanks for listing the consensus 3rd-7th picks, God only knows who we might be thinking the team picks if not for this in depth list lol..

-“The Blackhawks haven’t completely ruled out bringing back Marcus Kruger, according to a source - did this even need to be stated?? lol..I would be shocked if he gets any other NHL offers, I could see him getting a Rockford deal like Versteeg got...

-Seems like Boqvist should play in the AHL next season, but the team is leaving the door open to send him back to - London. again, Earth shattering news, I mean those are his only 2 options if he doesn't make the NHL...

Powers does not believe the Hawks will select Byram, and believes Turcotte will be the pick. - this is the only thing here that he actually makes a guess on goes out on a limb with...that is his opinion, but many of us have been saying it is only between Byram and Turcotte and likely is a 50/50 shot either way..

 

[featherhawk]

oh god if Stan brings Kruger back again Stan should be fired immediately. Marcus Kruger is not an NHLer anymore and has not been that caliber of a hockey player for several years now.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

I rather have Kruger as a 13F than Hayden tbh...they can do worse than MK assuming he comes back for a mil or something...

 

[Blue Liner]

I am not shooting the messenger, but lol at most of this stuff...

and I like Powers by the way, but all he does here is literally throw out things we already know and would be common sense stuff.

-Negotiations have started on Kampf’s new deal, and he “will likely be the Blackhawks’ third- or fourth-line center - next season.” - ummm, what the hell else is he going to be here?? thanks for the revelation..

-“Everything I’ve heard is the Blackhawks are deliberating between Bowen Byram, Dylan Cozens, Kirby Dach, Alex Turcotte and Trevor Zegras for the third pick.” - thanks for listing the consensus 3rd-7th picks, God only knows who we might be thinking the team picks if not for this in depth list lol..

-“The Blackhawks haven’t completely ruled out bringing back Marcus Kruger, according to a source - did this even need to be stated?? lol..I would be shocked if he gets any other NHL offers, I could see him getting a Rockford deal like Versteeg got...

-Seems like Boqvist should play in the AHL next season, but the team is leaving the door open to send him back to - London. again, Earth shattering news, I mean those are his only 2 options if he doesn't make the NHL...

Powers does not believe the Hawks will select Byram, and believes Turcotte will be the pick. - this is the only thing here that he actually makes a guess on goes out on a limb with...that is his opinion, but many of us have been saying it is only between Byram and Turcotte and likely is a 50/50 shot either way..

There's not much to write about right now. They're just filling pages the best they can.