2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)
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le_sean
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Bode Wilde is Petry since they either make a good play with their beautiful skating, or an idiotic play because they have nothing between the ears.
Dobson is going to be good. You can be disappointed by his playoff point totals, but I'm going to assume he's been asked to play it safe for the playoffs and the Titan are winning.
What excites me the most about him going forward are the width of his shoulders. He already looks like he's 210 lbs, but he's only listed at 180. Lots of room to fill out and become a beast.
ProspectsFanatic
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Yep, plus NHL teams always tend to select 1 or 2 reach in the 20 to 31 range that you don't see coming, fully expecting some gems that you would easily place in the 1st round to still be on the board for our first 2nd rounder. There are many quality prospects considered to be 2nd rounders as well to chose from as we move up the picks.
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Andrei79
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The Merkley pick in the mock reminded me how flawed a player he is. Not only in fundamentals, but offensively too. NHLers won't get caught by the same moves over and over (actually, AHLers won't either). He's learning-adverse and it's been so apparent this year in how little he's worked on his issues. The team that picks him better do their due diligence with the interviews and speaking with teammates/coaches, whatever info they can get that'll give them hope he'll approach the game like a pro. If not, its throwing a high pick in the garbage.
greyboy67
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I'm wondering how MB's job security will affect the #3 selection. It stands to reason that if the GM wants to keep his job, the Habs will draft a player that provides immediate help. It that's the case, Zadina is a stone-cold lock—unless Montreal finds a way to trade up to #2 and get Svechnikov.
Does this mean that the Habs are unlikely to go after a first-rounder with a higher ceiling but who will take a few years to get to the NHL?
Does this mean that the Habs are unlikely to go after a first-rounder with a higher ceiling but who will take a few years to get to the NHL?
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
Just so you know, Halifax's own staff said that they don't think Zadina is NHL ready next year. I mean that can change with a whole off season to train but I tend I to agree with them. I don't think Zadina or Tkachuk should be in the NHL next year. Dobson could probably play but that would be rushing a D which is usually trouble.
WinterLion
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Bergevin is on year 2 of a 5 year contract. Plus Timmins is the assistant GM... I'm pretty sure they will just draft the guy they want.
le_sean
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While he certainly has flaws, I’d say they are coachable (as long as he’s open to the coaching). You make it seem like he’s completely predictable out there, which I don’t think is the case at all.
I mean I don’t see any reason why he should go 15 spots after Bode Wilde. That guy is as dumb as a bag of bricks. At least Merkley shows he can dominate, he just needs to drive himself to do it consistently.
Saxon
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If they draft Merkley everything they said about character and attitude is complete garbage.
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Dont they hold the Memorial cup next year? Thats a pretty good reason to say he isnt ready... If we draft Zadina and he trains with some of our vets, he might be NHL ready or close to be... Dobson is definitely not NHL ready, his skills are too raw and he still have to fill his frame, that would be dumb to rush him no matter who draft him...
While I agree this is Merkley now, if he is coachable, we have to remember he really is just a kid. Sure, if this were him at age 25, maybe we’ll pass.
I’m only saying this based on what I’ve seen and scouting reports. Like others have said, if there is an interest in him from the team, I hope they do their due diligence because I obviously don’t have the whole story.
I would be very pleased if they drafted Chase Wouters with one of their 4th rd picks. I'm not sure he is there at #97 and I think #66 is too early for him but he would be a good target.
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Saxon
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None of us really know the whole story, but it's relatively common knowledge that he has top of the draft skill but it's his attitude/coachability that is dragging him down the draft rankings. I'm not saying I wouldn't take a chance personally, but it would be totally out of line with what the organization has been saying for years with regards to attitude and character. Once again not saying that I necessarily agree with that philosophy.
Oh, I get it and I’m aware of his reported attitude and character. Also agree it contradicts the BS we were given at the press conference. It may also be 100% valid and irreversible for all I know regarding the attitude as his own coaches and I assume our scouts will know. For me, and I’m not disagreeing with you really, he’s still a kid so I dunno since I don’t know him personally.
As for contradicting years of promoting character and attitude, I think that all went out the window when we traded for Shaw (I think everyone knows that story) and possibly Drouin (when you look at his history).
Whitesnake
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I respectfully disagree. If you have to have doubts about a Q centerman, have your doubts on Groulx. Not on Veleno.
Whitesnake
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And for my friend WTK, while i LOVE Wahlstrom, I don't see how Wahlstrom goes ahead of Zadina. 2 pure snipers, yet Zadina has the upper hands in his passing skills and defensive play. Not by a lot, but as of now, there is a difference. Now, it's all about projection so I guess the evaluation is about projecting that Wahlstrom will be more north-south type of player......while Zadina becomes more east-west....if so, yeah, Wahlstrom has the upper hand. But I don't think Zadina walks away when the physical stuff happens.
Groulx is also not very good, and of course, I do not have Groulx ahead or near Veleno. But holy hell, Veleno has very little offensive IQ, and one of the worst shots I've seen on a first round prospect.
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WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
Groulx is awful but that doesn't mean Veleno isn't very good either. He's gonna have his work to do to make it as a 2nd line C. For all the flack Eller got with us, Veleno is not as big or strong, plays much the same way and Eller is a much better shooter.
They are both snipers but I think Wahlstrom is actually the more dangerous sniper of the two. Every time Wahlstrom has a shooting opportunity, he's a threat to score. While Zadina is as well, it's in a bit of a different range, I don't even know how to explain it. As far as hands and passing skills go, I actually have Wahlstrom ahead on both. Wahlstrom has that extra reach and knows how to use it, it will get better as he gets stronger since he's taller than Zadina and hasn't found his man strength yet, when he gets those strong legs and bends down, I think he will be even more effective. I've also seen Wahlstrom put his teammates in better positions with passing than Zadina, he is just so shoot heavy that you don't see it as much. Defensive play, sure, edge to Zadina, but Zadina also makes bad decisions resulting in turn overs a lot too.
Upside for me is Wahlstrom and comparatively, I think Wahlstrom will be the better scorer at the next level too.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
The 3rd period of the Czech game was super telling for me. It was all the doubts I've had of Veleno, coming to life, in the most critical moments of a tournament. I had flashbacks of frustration from every offensively inept Habs team ever in a critical game or moment.
Whitesnake
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Yep shot needs work. Don't agree with the IQ. But if it ever works, yeah, type of C that will have his assists double or tripled his number of goals.
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