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2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

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Habs76 said:
How about Tkachuk - Galchenyuk - Gallagher :naughty:
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I like Tkachuk with Drouin more.

Galchenyuk / Tavares / Gallagher
Tkachuk / Drouin / Scherbak
Patch / Danault / Shaw

Not sure where Hudon and Byron fit moving forward. I guess if we trade Patch, Byron can play in his spot and Hudon in the 4th RW spot.

If Bergevin wants a retool and to get back to the playoffs, Tkachuk is the player he will take IMO. Tkachuk can play in the NHL next year. Zadina struggled with the Islanders in the QMJHL 2nd round when he faced a strong and physical defensive team. Zadina needs more time IMO.
 
sandviper said:
There may be an awesome center available early in the second round... Dellandrea. If he is on the board still, we need to grab him. I see #2C upside with him.
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Not sure he makes it to the 2nd round. His name is being brought up a lot. And my favorites to draft with our two early 2nd's is Dellandrea and Wise. I'm getting worried that Dellandrea is taken before our pick though
 
I consider Zadina a Forsber/Pastrnak level winger if things work out for him.

What level of player is Svech if things work out, Kovalchuk? Or is he more Tarasenko level?
 
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Mrb1p said:
Necas, to me, is the top drafted prospect. Hes just that good.
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Runner77 said:
Listening to former head scout Alain Chainey on 91.9FM, he's suggesting like several have offered here, a swap with a team that owns two first rounders or a team who missed out on the player they wanted in the first round and use two of the 2nd rounders in a deal to pick up that extra first rounder. Nothing earth-shattering but he's saying that selling off the top 3 overall pick to take lower picks is not the best move since the player being selected at that slot is likely to be a high level performer.

His approach is to use the 4 2nd rounders for leverage to move up as it's a rare thing for an organization to be able to count on so many picks in the 2nd.

He spoke to other recuriters who see Zadina very highly. However, he's also confirming that some of his sources are saying that Carolina has high interest in Zadina and may go for him based on his connection with Necas. That possibility is very real.
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I'm not going to get too excited about that last part. I was hugely disapointed at the lottery when I saw that we were in the top 3 teams.

I'm going with the expectation that were drafting Tkachuk, anything more will be gravy. But if Carolina picks Zadina I'll do cartwheels.

That said, I would be all for using those seconds to get a pick (even two) in the first. I'd be for using Pacioretty as well if it can get one of the defensemen or Kotkaniemi. A good scenario would be keeping the third, trading Pacioretty for the pick that shall be Kotkaniemi, moving up with 1 high second and a low one to draft one of the defensemen available (who knows, maybe Smith falls) and keeping the other two seconds. That would help the prospect pool quite a bit. I'd take a chance on Miller if he drops the one of the late seconds as well (unlikely).
 
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DramaticGloveSave said:
I consider Zadina a Forsber/Pastrnak level winger if things work out for him.

What level of player is Svech if things work out, Kovalchuk? Or is he more Tarasenko level?
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To me , he can be as good as forsberg no doubt in my mind, pastrnak is also a terrific example, everyone keeps saying why cant we have one of those..Zadina is one of those...........

I still maintain wahlstrom is a better scorer, but ive simply accepted, as difficult as it looked like that we may pick him depending on where we were before the lottery, i feel that the discussion is over now that we are 3, which is why everyones jumping on the Zadina wagon now...but people still dont want to let go of the possibilities we had lol..

The debate would be critical if Zadina was 5"10-5"11 and wahlstromg being 6"1, everyone would clamor even more for the size of wahlstrom...but seeing as how Zadina IS 6"1 as well... well it really makes it more of a toss up ...and the majority of the scouts and experts seem to be leaning on Zadina as the better prospect, so hey, if hes there, just grab him and run baby
 
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WeThreeKings said:
Pastrnak is a level above Forsberg imo. He's an elite winger in the league where Forsberg is a top line winger.
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I wonder what each player does when you swap teams. Pastrnak is awesome but playing with Marchand and Bergeron helps him look elite! I have to agree that he is a bit better than Forsberg but I wonder how he looks with other players.
 
I love Pastrnak, he was my guy that draft, but he's given free reign to be the offensive dynamo on his line that has tremendous chemistry.

Forsberg bears far more responsibility in Nashville.
 
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Runner77 said:
Listening to former head scout Alain Chainey on 91.9FM, he's suggesting like several have offered here, a swap with a team that owns two first rounders or a team who missed out on the player they wanted in the first round and use two of the 2nd rounders in a deal to pick up that extra first rounder. Nothing earth-shattering but he's saying that selling off the top 3 overall pick to take lower picks is not the best move since the player being selected at that slot is likely to be a high level performer.

His approach is to use the 4 2nd rounders for leverage to move up as it's a rare thing for an organization to be able to count on so many picks in the 2nd.

He spoke to other recuriters who see Zadina very highly. However, he's also confirming that some of his sources are saying that Carolina has high interest in Zadina and may go for him based on his connection with Necas. That possibility is very real.
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This is exactly what should and hopefully will happen regarding the 4 2nd's, everytime i step back and look at it i cant even BELIEVE we have that many... i cant imagine for the life of me that we keep all 4, theres just no way, how a GM wouldnt think that instead of 4 2nd's there would HAVE to be a way to leverage it and something else to get back into the 1st

all this talk of trading back from 3 is MORTIFYING, i cant get over it, grab BPA and get BACK into the first is what we should be doing, not backing up from 3 and selecting 1 mid first rounder and a million 2nds...

And hopefully the stuff about Carolina is true, ..again i cant imagine carolina isnt thinking about it at LEAST, which is spawning all these 2nd and 3rd overall prospect gap debates, as in, is svech THAT much better that carolina would never take or consider Zadina at 3?

i think its clear as day Svech is better than Zadina, but i think its also clear that Carolina is also seriously looking at Zadina now also, and that maybe they think the gap isnt THAT large between the two, certainly not to the point of not considering even for a LITTLe bit the notion of taking Zadina at 2, because of this godsend Necas factor

another thing we have going for us is the russian history of top 5 picks, do you get an ovechkin malkin or are you getting a yakupov or zherdev
 
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BB88 said:
I said earlier that I could see him be around ppg player next year in Liiga, if that happens it would signal #1C potential at the next level.
Would think that top7 atleast is fair, given his development. His age& father being his Liiga teams coach to me is a ++.

Heiskanen last year, one of the younger prospects in his draft, great draft year and had a beast u18's, exploded offensively on his +1 season.
Vesalainen struggled offensively on his draft year, but had massive u18's, exploded on his +1 season, same as Heiskanen one of the younger prospects on his draft, but Heiskanen is still a different tier prospect than him.
I like when prospects finish their seasons strong, it's good to build from that.

I'm a Finn so I try not to sell these kids too much here.
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Hakka päälle suomen poika!

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My mother was Finnish.
 
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Mrb1p said:
Or maybe one is just flatout better than the other
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The production wasn't far off, both slightly under a ppg, and there's no doubt Pastrnak benefits from being on a better line in a system allows him free reign while Forsberg is the much better defensive player....

But this wasn't really my point lol

Point is, how much better is Svech than that?
 
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DramaticGloveSave said:
The production wasn't far off, both slightly under a ppg, and there's no doubt Pastrnak benefits from being on a better line in a system allows him free reign while Forsberg is the much better defensive player....

But this wasn't really my point lol

Point is, how much better is Svech than that?
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Than Pastrnak? Most likely isnt. Likely hes equal and some potential to be better.

Than Forsberg? Really likely.

;)
 
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