2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)
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Habs76
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Zadina plays RW though. If anyone is moved to the other wing, it will be Scherbak.
Scherbak / Galchenyuk / Zadina
There's nothing particular about Finland and centers though. These are two things: does Jesperi possess a high degree of offensive ability becoming of a first line center, and can Jesperi play center. Moreover, we have some idea of general league quality of Liiga, and all players' performances (whether they're centers or not) tell us about it. I think Jesperi is pretty obviously offensively gifted, and he seems to be able to play center. He's just not a windmill slam dunk like Barkov.
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I don't think Veleno is a bust but he could be a similar player to Danault. Good size and good skating but limited offensively. At best I think he could end up being a Duchene type.
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It wasn't personal, just i thought both points were BS lol
Veleno isn't gomez and both he and Poehling can shoot it enough for a goalie to play them on a 2 on 1
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I said earlier that I could see him be around ppg player next year in Liiga, if that happens it would signal #1C potential at the next level.
Would think that top7 atleast is fair, given his development. His age& father being his Liiga teams coach to me is a ++.
Heiskanen last year, one of the younger prospects in his draft, great draft year and had a beast u18's, exploded offensively on his +1 season.
Vesalainen struggled offensively on his draft year, but had massive u18's, exploded on his +1 season, same as Heiskanen one of the younger prospects on his draft, but Heiskanen is still a different tier prospect than him.
I like when prospects finish their seasons strong, it's good to build from that.
I'm a Finn so I try not to sell these kids too much here.
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I completely agree with this. From watching Veleno, looks like a third line center. Not enough skill to finish, but will work hard & be a two way guy. Not someone I would select in top 20. Looking for top six forwards or a top 4 dman in the first round.
To address your ninja edit, Jesperi and Pulju had comparable deployments, with Pulju getting more PP time. Oh, and Pulju was playing with one Sebastian Aho in his post-draft season. Laine played way more, and had way more PP time.
I feel like I should emphasize this, but I'm not saying that Jesperi is as good as Laine, only that his offensive ability and accomplishments should be taken seriously. They stack up very well.
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Typo. Alain Chainey, ex head scout for the Anaheim Ducks who today is a TVA Sports pundit.
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Barkov was a beast as a 17y old, and he wasn't a rookie. Laine didn't get close to his offensive numbers in Liiga.
These kids can grow a ton during the season which won't show in points.
Rantanen had 28 points on his draft season, while being close to year younger and not a rookie, Aho had 11 points on his draft season.
Rants hit 84 points this year, Aho 65 and is Carolinas best player.
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I think some team takes Veleno from the 12-18 range. I'm not high on him and we need to be careful with targeting centers cause we need them. Poehling, Vejdemo, Evans, Danault, DLR are decent depth for the future. We don't need more middle 6 or bottom 6 potential. We need top 6 potential. Most of us feel we should pass on Veleno... If he had a better shot, I would feel different. However, he is limited offensively. I wonder what Ducharme would say about drafting Veleno vs other centers. I would trust his opinion on what he thinks about Veleno... the next Danault or the next Duchene? Or somewhere in the middle?
WeThreeKings
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I can't even begin to imagine passing on Svech for Zadina. If Carolina do that then I absolutely will love the 3rd overall win.
There may be an awesome center available early in the second round... Dellandrea. If he is on the board still, we need to grab him. I see #2C upside with him.
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So why wouldnt Zadina do well on PP's that feature drouin and galchenyuk? better playmakers than his czech teammates.
And why discredit the Canada goals? Svech never scores off bad rebounds?
I think more should be said that come elimination rounds facing the best teams on the planet, in the QF vs Finland he scores 2 in a 4-3 OT win, and then in the Semi-finals his team gets blown out 7-2 by Canada, where he again, scores 2 goals in an elimination round game, the only ones for his team
not padding stats vs latvia and suisse here...
Svech is the better player/prospect, and will go 2 and with some luck will go 3 to us, im just wondering why were starting a war with this whole Zadina at 3 thing...
WeThreeKings
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It's trying to discredit the asinine notion that Zadina is neck and neck with Svech. He's not. This is nothing about whether or not Zadina is a valuable pick at 3.
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Mrb1p
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Gustafsson is not ROR, here me out.
1. He never drove into a Timmies (is there even timmies where Gustafsson plays)
2. Hes not paid.
3. Hes not holding out for pay.
4. Hes not a good ol canadian boy so all of the aformentioned is ignored.
5. His name isnt Ryan Oreilly, Ryan Oreilly is actually going to come out in the 3rd or 4th.
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