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2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

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DramaticGloveSave said:
lol you really do think you're special... as if you are the only guy who knows how to find streams online... like through onhockey.tv... not like I've been specifically talking the memorial cup, the world championships etc over the last few days... but you ain't the hall monitor brah, so get off my nuts.
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To be fair the Mem Cup and WHC are both televised.
 
Runner77 said:
No one's alleging a conspiracy. It's just that a surge in popularity infers that there is tangible support for the player. I've only seen 3 or 4 posters here in the past week, tout the player with more conviction, however I don't know what is going on elsewhere.
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4 posters out of 10ish is huge. Plus the main board is crazy for him ATM.
 
Runner77 said:
No one's alleging a conspiracy. It's just that a surge in popularity infers that there is tangible support for the player. I've only seen 3 or 4 posters here in the past week, tout the player with more conviction, however I don't know what is going on elsewhere.
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Have you taken a look at the Hughes main-board thread? Some wild stuff is going down there ATM.
 
NotProkofievian said:
lol, yeah, I'll bet you were up bright and early, at 5:30 AM ET to watch all the team finland games, you fraud.

You know what's funny? I actually gave explicit instructions on how to watch every team finland game for free, on demand, in this very thread, and you still couldn't come up with a plausible answer.

Cat's out of the bag, jabroni: you're an opinion repeater, a scouting non-event, a low-information poster. How else could you come up with such gems as ''Tkachuk the future 35+ goal scorer'' and ''Poehling is close to the best center prospect in hockey,'' and of course, ''Kotkaniemi doesn't have a great shot.''

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The quote is actually "Poehling is the best drafted center prospect"
 
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Such an echo chamber in here, with all of us just agreeing all the time on prospects like Akil Thomas and Noah Dobson.
 
Runner77 said:
No one's alleging a conspiracy. It's just that a surge in popularity infers that there is tangible support for the player. I've only seen 3 or 4 posters here in the past week, tout the player with more conviction, however I don't know what is going on elsewhere.
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Hughes is still ranked 5-10 in most April rankings so the support is mostly coming from people, like me, who have watched him at the Worlds and "shift by shift" videos of his games on Youtube (for me atleast). The biggest concern with Hughes was whether he would be able to adapt to bigger players, he proved he was able to at the WHC.

I recommend watching this video to get a good idea of what he really can do:



When he's on his game, he's a force. I truly believe he's going to be something special.
 
Favster said:
Hughes is still ranked 5-10 in most April rankings so the support is mostly coming from people, like me, who have watched him at the Worlds and "shift by shift" videos of his games on Youtube (for me atleast). The biggest concern with Hughes was whether he would be able to adapt to bigger players, he proved he was able to at the WHC.

I recommend watching this video to get a good idea of what he really can do:



When he's on his game, he's a force. I truly believe he's going to be something special.
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That was never the concern. Quinn Huhes will Quinn Hughes no matter the competition. The concern is that his offense might not translate because A) His shot is weak AF and hes not particularly good at release or picking spot. B) his offense is generated mostly through unstructured play and mostly from the perimeter. C) yeah hes small as shits.
 
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DramaticGloveSave said:
And did I claim it was my opinion, or was I quoting family members to provide information here for other posters?

And in regards to Poehling, my comment was specifically in regards to how he was the best centerman on the ice against Canada at last years Summer Showcase... better than guys like PLD, Robert Thomas, Michael McLoed, and Logan Brown.

You guys just hate big, two way North Americans. I like them. We disagree. The end.
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You guys just hate big two way players? Except for

Dahlin
Svechnikov
Kotkaniemi
Dobson
Bouchard
All of which are in everyones top 10.
 
Mrb1p said:
That was never the concern. Quinn Huhes will Quinn Hughes no matter the competition. The concern is that his offense might not translate because A) His shot is weak AF and hes not particularly good at release or picking spot. B) his offense is generated mostly through unstructured play and mostly from the perimeter. C) yeah hes small as ****s.
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Those are all good points. That being said, I've read multiple comments saying he was too small and wouldn't be able to adapt to bigger NHL plays. Maybe it wasn't for you but the general consensus was that it was concerning.

I totally agree with A, he will need to develop a shot. The good news is that he's so mobile he can move laterally on the blue line to get pucks to the net. That being said, his shot will always be below average IMO.

For me, B is a big concern but I think he's such a smart player he will adapt and figure it out. I mean, outside of Dahlin no propsect is perfect, it's all about projection but I think he has the biggest shot at being a game changer outside of the consensus #1. It's obviously just an opinion lol but ya, the kid looks legit to me.
 
Mrb1p said:
That was never the concern. Quinn Huhes will Quinn Hughes no matter the competition. The concern is that his offense might not translate because A) His shot is weak AF and hes not particularly good at release or picking spot. B) his offense is generated mostly through unstructured play and mostly from the perimeter. C) yeah hes small as ****s.
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His shot is not nearly as bad as some here claim. He doesn't have a bomb, but he actually has a nasty wrister and can get it through... can also snap it and one time it effectively.
 
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Favster said:
Hughes is still ranked 5-10 in most April rankings so the support is mostly coming from people, like me, who have watched him at the Worlds and "shift by shift" videos of his games on Youtube (for me atleast). The biggest concern with Hughes was whether he would be able to adapt to bigger players, he proved he was able to at the WHC.

I recommend watching this video to get a good idea of what he really can do:



When he's on his game, he's a force. I truly believe he's going to be something special.
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@thefeebster deserves a tonne of credit for making those videos. I will never not @ him when people post them. Because of him, people have actually watched Hughes play 6 more full games.

He's a fantastic player. I have him behind Dobson, and ahead of Boqvist. I've been waffling between him and Boqvist for a while now, but he's done enough that I don't want to take the risk for the tantalizing upside of Boqvist. I'm convinced Hughes will be a top 4 defenceman.
 
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DramaticGloveSave said:
His shot is not nearly as bad as some here claim. He doesn't have a bomb, but he actually has a nasty wrister and can get it through... can also snap it and one time it effectively.
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This. It's also going to only get better once he puts on some muscle. He isn't going that have a bomb of a shot, but it isn't going to be bad or something to be concerned about.
 
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Mrb1p said:
4 posters out of 10ish is huge. Plus the main board is crazy for him ATM.
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If there are 4, could be 3. :sarcasm:

Strength in numbers for guys who spend their time crunching them, is rather selective I see.

You can't have a real "surge" without an overwhelming shift involving a multiplicity of sources, not just 3 posters here and a few guys on the main board. To each their own, I guess.
 
The Great Schlemko said:
This. It's also going to only get better once he puts on some muscle. He isn't going that have a bomb of a shot, but it isn't going to be bad or something to be concerned about.
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Of course it isn't that bad. But, for an offensive D man being considered in the top 10 it is significantly below average compared to others that have been in his situation. I'm not concerned about it though, the rest of his game is so strong it will compensate for his below average shot.
 
I've got Boqvist ahead of Dobson and Dobson ahead of Hughes. I can see why a casual prospect viewer would be enamored with Hughes. He's dynamic with the puck. So he's very noticeable and can give you those moments of awe.

I used to get stuck on that but now I have a far greater appreciation for smarts and watching the little plays the happen before chances. Boqvist has that up the wazoo. He's just straight smarter than Hughes and he's got dynamic skills he just is a much more reserved player in the sense that he would rather let his brain and the puck do the work.

You couldn't go wrong with Dobson or Boqvist at three. They are gonna be top pairing defenseman in different ways and I'm not concerned about it at all.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
I've got Boqvist ahead of Dobson and Dobson ahead of Hughes. I can see why a casual prospect viewer would be enamored with Hughes. He's dynamic with the puck. So he's very noticeable and can give you those moments of awe.

I used to get stuck on that but now I have a far greater appreciation for smarts and watching the little plays the happen before chances. Boqvist has that up the wazoo. He's just straight smarter than Hughes and he's got dynamic skills he just is a much more reserved player in the sense that he would rather let his brain and the puck do the work.

You couldn't go wrong with Dobson or Boqvist at three. They are gonna be top pairing defenseman in different ways and I'm not concerned about it at all.
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I'd totally be fine if our pick is Boqvist. The fact that he's nearly a full year younger than Hughes is a very important factor to me.
 
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Favster said:
I'd totally be fine if our pick is Boqvist. The fact that he's nearly a full year younger than Hughes is a very important factor to me.
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Between those two it's such a frustrating call. You don't get to see them head to head all season, Boqvist struggles to win a place in Sweden, but looks awesome at the U18s, and then there's the age thing.

Two elite prospects, one's further ahead than the other, but he ought to be. And the other prospect is a wunderkind, but kinda struggled. I'm just putting them right next to one another, so I can only be 1 spot off ;)
 
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Corey Pronman's list is very spicy.
Bokk at 8
Alexeyev at 54
Dobson, Bouchard, Smith all late teens/early 20s.
Merkley at 10
Ishakov at 17
Der-Arguchintsev at 26
Marchenko at 19

The full list is behind paywall, so I don't think I'd be allowed to post the whole list...
 
Yoshidas Island said:
Corey Pronman's list is very spicy.
Bokk at 8
Alexeyev at 54
Dobson, Bouchard, Smith all late teens/early 20s.
Merkley at 10
Ishakov at 17
Der-Arguchintsev at 26
Marchenko at 19

The full list is behind paywall, so I don't think I'd be allowed to post the whole list...
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Dumb
Super Dumb
Really dumb
Awful
Smart
Understandable considering talent and age
Stupid
 
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