2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

[Habs76]

I litterally have sent/received messages in my inbox of links to games. But whatever.

I never said he was bad by any means, he just doesn't have the elite traits of the top guys in this draft.

He doesn't have the elite skating.

There is absolutely NOTHING ELSE that he lacks.

 

[Mrb1p]

There’s a clear difference during the eye test. There’s a difference statistically as well.

How much of that comes to usage? Galchenyuk continually ranks ahead in p/60

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

He doesn't have the elite skating.

There is absolutely NOTHING ELSE that he lacks.

You say that as though every other quality is elite across the board.

He's a good prospect, not saying otherwise. But he's not a top 3/5 guy in this draft.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

How much of that comes to usage? Galchenyuk continually ranks ahead in p/60

Forsbergs a star in this league.

 

[Andrei79]

You say that as though every other quality is elite across the board.

He's a good prospect, not saying otherwise. But he's not a top 3/5 guy in this draft.

Because ?

 

[Mrb1p]

You say that as though every other quality is elite across the board.

He's a good prospect, not saying otherwise. But he's not a top 3/5 guy in this draft.

Hes got an NHL shot, hes got absolutrly elite understanding of the game, his hands and edge work ability is elite. He splits D on a regular basis and hes just really dangerous with the puck on his stick. Hes the kind of multifaceted offensive player that just gets shit done.

Funny enough, hed be the type of player Bergevin and co would classify as a "winner" with the right attitude.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Because ?

Because he doesn't have a trait he can dominate with.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Hes got an NHL shot, hes got absolutrly elite understanding of the game, his hands and edge work ability is elite. He splits D on a regular basis and hes just really dangerous with the puck on his stick. Hes the kind of multifaceted offensive player that just gets **** done.

Funny enough, hed be the type of player Bergevin and co would classify as a "winner" with the right attitude.

We have different definitions of elite. Elite edgework? Quinn Hughes has elite edge work.

 

[Andrei79]

Because he doesn't have a trait he can dominate with.

Except his hands, his IQ, his vision and his shot.

But really, what do you mean ?

 

[Habs Icing]

I'm watching Dobson for the first time and I want to ask the posters who rave about him WTH do you see in him?

 

[Mrb1p]

I'm watching Dobson for the first time and I want to ask the posters who rave about him WTH do you see in him?

Exactly what youre seeing. Hes good but hes not top 3 good.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Except his hands, his IQ, his vision and his shot.

But really, what do you mean ?

He's good across the board (other than skating). And he's going to be a good player. At pick 3 I want a star, and I just don't see star traits. Those attributes you listed are good but not elite. His hands and shot aren't elite. If his hands and shot are elite, how would you describe Zadinas?

 

[Habs76]

You say that as though every other quality is elite across the board.

He's a good prospect, not saying otherwise. But he's not a top 3/5 guy in this draft.

What quality isn't elite?
Hockey IQ? Nah
Shot? Nah
Two-way play? That's not it.

The guy is flourishing in pro hockey at a young age. If he can work on his skating, I could see him taking a similar development curve to Horvat.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Exactly what youre seeing. Hes good but hes not top 3 good.

This is what I'm saying about Kotkaniemi and y'all can't handle it.

 

[Andrei79]

He's good across the board (other than skating). And he's going to be a good player. At pick 3 I want a star, and I just don't see star traits. Those attributes you listed are good but not elite. His hands and shot aren't elite. If his hands and shot are elite, how would you describe Zadinas?

Umm, elite.

But, let's not stray from the topic.

You said he doesn't have a trait he can dominate with. He actually has a multitude of them. In fact, having so many abilities he can use which he combines with more unpredictablity than any prospect outside the top 2 is a dominant trait in itself.

He's more than "good" across the board, he's excellent and more.

 

[Habs Icing]

Exactly what youre seeing. Hes good but hes not top 3 good.

I would scream if the Habs draft him at 3. You pegged him perfectly. He's good but not 3rd OV.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

At this point we can only agree to disagree. If I'm wrong, I look forward to seeing him as a Hab because there's no way we pass on the player you all are describing...at center no less...

 

[The Great Weal]

Meanwhile you got Hughes, Kakko, Dach and others who I would take over anyone after Dahlin and Svech. Not fare.

 

[Mrb1p]

This is what I'm saying about Kotkaniemi and y'all can't handle it.

Except Kotkaniemi has offensive tools, produces huge numbers and he actually presses the offense, hes a legit offensive catalyst.

 

[Andrei79]

Meanwhile you got Hughes, Kakko, Dach and others who I would take over anyone after Dahlin and Svech. Not fare.

Id take Hughes over Svech without a doubt.

 

[The Great Weal]

Id take Hughes over Svech without a doubt.

As would I but my point is that next year's top 3 is better than this ones by a good bit.

 

[Mrb1p]

Id take Hughes over Svech without a doubt.

I dont think I would. I think theyre both similar prospect in value.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Id take Hughes over Svech without a doubt.

Really? I've got a major crush on Hughes but trying not to get carried away.

 

[Andrei79]

I dont think I would. I think theyre both similar prospect in value.

Were Svech a center, I think you'd have more of an argument there, but Hughes is going to produce ridiculous numbers down the middle.

 

[The Great Weal]

Imagine if Bergevin trades 3 for Oreilly. Good lord I would be infuriated.