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2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

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Habs76 said:
Very true. He has every weapon you'd ever want in your arsenal, he just needs to be more selfish, take his ice when he's given it. A lot of his passes do nothing but waste time.

That said I can't imagine a situation where he doesn't become a top four defenseman, and my best guess would be he tops out as a #2 who plays the PP and PK, ~22-23mins a night.

If he wakes up one day and realizes what he's capable of though, look out. He will take the NHL by storm.
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Yeah, but when has that happened though? Players who dont have that edge dont magically find it. At least, not that I can think of.
 
Mrb1p said:
Yeah, but when has that happened though? Players who dont have that edge dont magically find it. At least, not that I can think of.
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The way I see it, you can still develop into an elite player without being electric like Karlsson. Ryan Suter, Alex Pietrangelo are both elite defenseman without a whole lot of, if any flair to their game.

Dobson just isn't a risk-taker.
 
Runner77 said:
Would that not be a shortcoming that makes him more likely as a no. 2C rather than a bona fide no. 1C?
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Since when is scoring goals a shortcoming? The notion that the middle of the ice is for playmakers is always a surprise to me. Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby, Malkin, Beliveau were all great shooters that could beat you in a number of ways, thats what you want from a C, and thats what Kotkaniemi will give you.

Also you could do a lot worse than a top 6 C in any spot of a draft.
 
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Mrb1p said:
Since when is scoring goals a shortcoming? The notion that the middle of the ice is for playmakers is always a surprise to me. Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby, Malkin, Beliveau were all great shooters that could beat you in a number of ways, thats what you want from a C, and thats what Kotkaniemi will give you.

Also you could do a lot worse than a top 6 C in any spot of a draft.
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I would take a two-way 2C over a lot of top line wingers in the NHL
 
Mrb1p said:
Since when is scoring goals a shortcoming? The notion that the middle of the ice is for playmakers is always a surprise to me. Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby, Malkin, Beliveau were all great shooters that could beat you in a number of ways, thats what you want from a C, and thats what Kotkaniemi will give you.

Also you could do a lot worse than a top 6 C in any spot of a draft.
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Not in that either/or manner. Gretzky was both a playmaker and a shooter. If a center is mostly a shooter, would the lack of playmaking or the diminished playmaking ability, not take away from a bona fide top line C? Hence my question about whether this would make him more likely to profile as a second line C. Just a nuance but I could be wrong.
 
Habs76 said:
The fact that he is more of a shooter than a playmaker could possibly cause him to turn out as a winger. Also he'd obviously have to improve his faceoff abilities but that's an issue a lot of young players have.
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Disagree. Kotkaniemi's a playmaker first and foremost. He just also happens to be a threat with his shot. But his ability to see the ice is his best asset and he instinctively looks to set up his teammates more than he does shooting.
 
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Fozz said:
You guys should spend less time watching prospects and more time watching NHL games.
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Ive been man crushing on FF since 2011 i think im tbe only one that had him in contention for first OA, though, I gave the edge to Yak because "consensus". Love him and I think hes a star and all but I think its Galchenyuk that is unfairly judged here.
 
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Habs76 said:
A thing of beauty. Second best defenseman in the draft (admittedly I haven't seen much of Boqvist)
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not sure he's better then Hughes who I've seen more of. I've only seen Dobson once and that was today, and I've seen Hughes more but if I were picking I would still lean towards Hughes. That said it seems like a great year to trade down to 7/8/9 as so many of these kids in the 3-12 range seem so close together that a team that has so many holes might benefit from trading down to get as many darts as possible.
 
montreal said:
not sure he's better then Hughes who I've seen more of. I've only seen Dobson once and that was today, and I've seen Hughes more but if I were picking I would still lean towards Hughes. That said it seems like a great year to trade down to 7/8/9 as so many of these kids in the 3-12 range seem so close together that a team that has so many holes might benefit from trading down to get as many darts as possible.
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Couldn't agree more with the bolded
 
Saw this on a schlock site:

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Is this from The Hockey News? If so, is it a Grant special? Tkachuk 3rd, lol.
 
Definitely a bunch of great guys in the top 10... but there are most years. I would be surprised if there was a lot of trading. My guess is that Timmins & Co. will have a guy they feel is better than the others and they will just grab that guy at 3.

That guy might be Zadina... but if it isn't things could get very interesting because there really isn't much consensus starting right around #4. As usual things get even cloudier as we move down which makes our picks at 35 and 38 really interesting... because the 1st round talent doesn't stop at 31 (or the 1st round talents stops way before 31... depending on if you are half full/ half empty person)...
 
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