Prospect Info: 2018 NHL Draft / Pick #9 - Vitali Kravtsov (RW) - Part VI

[Kovalev27]

You guys are being far too kind when it’s clearly a case of a kid thinking he’s above playing in the A and acting like it.

he never looked this bad in traverse or the preseason. Now he can barely muster a shot on goal in 6 games? Stop. He’s a 3rd year pro. Treat him like one. I actually like how management is handling this. They aren’t babying him. This kid is a stud he needs to act like one

 

[Rangers in 7]

You guys are being far too kind when it’s clearly a case of a kid thinking he’s above playing in the A and acting like it.

he never looked this bad in traverse or the preseason. Now he can barely muster a shot on goal in 6 games? Stop. He’s a 3rd year pro. Treat him like one. I actually like how management is handling this. They aren’t babying him. This kid is a stud he needs to act like one

Dude take a chill pill my god....it’s his first season in North America as a 19 year old

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Imagine being upset at a 19-year old for showing emotions and being disappointed

 

[Kovalev27]

You guys are way more upset than I am.

I won’t lose any sleep if he’s back in Siberia next week. It’s on him. I’m just calling it like it is. Babying him doesn’t do anything for him

 

[Kovalev27]

Imagine being upset at a 19-year old for showing emotions and being disappointed

you’re kidding right? With all the tears you shed over how Lias is treated? Stoppppppp

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

you’re kidding right? With all the tears you shed over how Lias is treated? Stoppppppp

I expect more from Kravtsov myself, but the way you're going on about him, is just ridiculous

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Because, if you read the post I was initially replying to, he is European. Eliteprospects listed Lundmark as Canadian, Brendl as Czech. So I included Lundmark, but not Brendl. I always thought Lundmark was Swedish myself based off the name, but i haven't been watching hockey nearly that long.

I just said in my response to you that you went and included CHL players. I actually put in my post that remark as well.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

I’m sorry but I’m not impressed with looking slightly better and actually worthy of the AHL when you’re considered one of the top prospects in the world and a KHL all star. That is flat out unacceptable. He should be doing what Chytil is doing down there.

I would sit him too. Until he shows he wants to act like a pro. He IS a pro hockey player. I’d honestly give him till the end of the month to start dominating. If not I’d seriously consider telling him to go home till February and come back when he’s mature enough to handle real pro hockey.

Dude relax.

I couldn’t be more relaxed.

Then stop saying completely stupid crap

Theres a difference between having criticism and having nothing but melodramatic overdone whining

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I’m sorry but I’m not impressed with looking slightly better and actually worthy of the AHL when you’re considered one of the top prospects in the world and a KHL all star. That is flat out unacceptable. He should be doing what Chytil is doing down there.

if he were struggling at the NHL level that’s one thing. For him to struggle at the AHL with his talent is flat out on him. He’s way too good for that bull****. I would sit him too. Until he shows he wants to act like a pro. He IS a pro hockey player. He did not come out of juniors. He’s sulking and it’s unacceptable. Go be the best player on the ice like you should be. I’d honestly give him till the end of the month to start dominating. Not hanging in the A. Dominating the A. If not I’d seriously consider telling him to go home till February and come back when he’s mature enough to handle real pro hockey.

Relax.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

You guys are way more upset than I am.

I won’t lose any sleep if he’s back in Siberia next week. It’s on him. I’m just calling it like it is. Babying him doesn’t do anything for him

What really happened? Did you see him and he wouldn't sign an autograph for you or something?

 

[Hunter Gathers]

What really happened? Did you see him and he wouldn't sign an autograph for you or something?

Right? I mean, I think that Kravtsov needs to grow up. I think a lot of us do. But this insane ranting on him is just silly. I have confidence the kid will develop. Now, I'll be pissed if he goes back to Russia, but that's not here, yet.

 

[HonestGabe]

You guys are being far too kind when it’s clearly a case of a kid thinking he’s above playing in the A and acting like it.

How is this clear to you? From things you saw on twitter?

 

[kovazub94]

If I had a nickel every time @Kovalev27 overreacted regarding prospects development based on a small sample...

 

[Mac n Gs]

You know exactly who he is, AK. Why even waste your breath?

It's so obviously another alt of wenevergetagoodcoach or tradenashnow. Just report them and let the mods do their jobs. Anyone answering them and wasting everyone else's time is just giving them what they want.

 

[Lua]

For some people the AHL is better than the KHL. I disagree, but I have been part of that debate for too long.

I don't think anyone could disagree that the KHL is a superior league to the AHL, but it's worth discussing whether or not the AHL is more conducive to learning the specific aspects of the game in which Kravstov is deficient

 

[Kovalev27]

Thank Marc Staal for that one. But keep giving him ice time

 

[kovazub94]

I don't think anyone could disagree that the KHL is a superior league to the AHL, but it's worth discussing whether or not the AHL is more conducive to learning the specific aspects of the game in which Kravstov is deficient

Eh, we’ve been through this. My opinion: Top 4 teams in the K are better than anything in the A. The next 8-9 are about level but definitely not worse than the top 2/3 of the AHL. The bottom teams in the KHL are probably level or worse than the bottom of the AHL.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Kravtsov assigned to the VHL but it's not a bad thing

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Kravtsov assigned to the VHL but it's not a bad thing

As long as he is recalled by the next KHL game i'm okay with this.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

As long as he is recalled by the next KHL game i'm okay with this.

Is there an out clause in this contract too?

 

[kovazub94]

Is there an out clause in this contract too?

He can chose to go play in Chelyabinsk over-40 beer league.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

He can chose to go play in Chelyabinsk over-40 beer league.

You mean Vodka League, no..?

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Has Traktor seriously only played twice since he has been back there? Crazy.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Has Traktor seriously only played twice since he has been back there? Crazy.

It's international break. There's no KHL hockey because of that. The Russian national team plays in the Karjala Cup, which started last night in Helsinki. At the same time, the u20 team plays in the u20 Four Nations. Last season, Kravtsov was eligible for the WJC and was part of the u20 team. This he isn't so he stays in Chelyabinsk. May as well have him play some games while the KHL has a break.

This is in essence no different from the situation last season where Lundkvist played a couple games with the J20 team in SuperElit (under 20 team) and played 4 games in 4 days. He didn't miss a single SHL game, and I don't expect Kravtsov to miss a KHL game. He will be back when Traktor plays again on Tuesday.

Chelmet plays today against Yugra Khanty-Mansiysk and Monday against Yermak Angarsk

 

[kovazub94]

You mean Vodka League, no..?

I thought this is where he was sent now - VHL, no?