GeorgeKaplan
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Yeah, I don’t see 6-7-8 US dmen better than him right now. Plus US hockey loves size and grit and he’s definitely got both
Prospect Info: 2018 NHL Draft / Pick #22 - K'Andre Miller (D)
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Amazing Kreiderman
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He will be a lock. The Junior team scouts are always watching their players in the NCAA so i'm sure they have seen how dominate he has been.
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been saying this since draft day
potential steal of the draft.
kids got top pair stuff. this was a coup pick.
hes raw but hes maturing at a rapid rate and when finished could be the best 2 way defender in last years draft which included a shit ton of great looking d prospects.
potential steal of the draft.
kids got top pair stuff. this was a coup pick.
hes raw but hes maturing at a rapid rate and when finished could be the best 2 way defender in last years draft which included a shit ton of great looking d prospects.
I never get what a 2-way defender means in this context. I feel it penalizes players that are great offensively. So if Dahlin is a 10 offensively but a 7 defensively would Miller be a better 2-way defender if he's a 6 offensively but a 9 defensively?
My point was though it seems that people disregard good offensive players who are good at defense when talking about 2-way defensemen.
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After the last draft I was a little bit disappointed - we drafted Kravtsov instead of Wahlstrom...
Some interesting numbers:
K'Andre Miller
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Oliver Wahlstrom
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I know... it means nothing, but now - I'm really not disappointed.
Some interesting numbers:
K'Andre Miller
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| NCAA | 8 | 2 | 6 | 8 | 2 | 9 |
Oliver Wahlstrom
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| NCAA | 6 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 6 | -4 |
I know... it means nothing, but now - I'm really not disappointed.
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After the last draft I was a little bit disappointed - we drafted Kravtsov instead of Wahlstrom...
Some interesting numbers:
K'Andre Miller
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2018-19 NCAA 8 2 6 8 2 9
I know... it means nothing, but now - I'm really not disappointed.[TBODY] [/TBODY]
2018-19 NCAA 6 1 0 1 6 -4
I don't want to start a whole debate again with Kravtsov vs Wahlstrom, but the Wahlstrom sample size is extremely small.
NHLe is a great way of projecting point total translation to the NHL. The sample size, as I said, is small for Wahlstrom, but let's assume he hits the same point total as Mittelstadt, this would be Wahlstrom vs Kravtsov:
Wahlstrom: 0.88 PPG with a .393 translation = 0.34 PPG
Kravtsov: 0.45 PPG with a .804 translation = 0.36 PPG
If we assume Wahlstrom matches Mittelstadt's point totals, you could argue their NHL expected production is almost similar at this stage.
Edit: And I just realized this is the K'Andre Miller thread. Sorry, guys.
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I'll just add that Emmanuel Perry's NHLe's are significantly lower for CHL/NCAA (~0.17), though he has no distinction between NCAA divisions since he uses Elite Prospects data.
I have not studied which conversions seem to translate the best for top prospects, nor have I studied the respective methodology, but I would on gut feeling trust Manny over Rob Vollman when it comes to statistical modelling (no disrespect meant towards Rob).
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The reason I went with Rob's numbers is because a college player is involved.
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I might at some point calculate the implicit NCAA division spread in Manny's numbers based on Rob's data. While not particularly scientific, my inner engineer screams "good enough".
For me i trust Mannys NHLe more when it comes to Europé and maybe CHL, but it's broken for USNTDP and NCAA right now, hopefully he finds a way to fix it.
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He had a nice end to end rush, shot too early from a far distance though, but still looked really good overall, was flying.
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So no points last night, why are we talking about this obvious bust.
On a serious nature, is it more important to everyone that he gets points versus being put into almost every scenario special teams, offensive and defensive situations basically any scenario the coach can dream up, which to me is a true achievement for a freshman who is in the nascent part of being a defenseman.
Edit: I haven't seen him play.
On a serious nature, is it more important to everyone that he gets points versus being put into almost every scenario special teams, offensive and defensive situations basically any scenario the coach can dream up, which to me is a true achievement for a freshman who is in the nascent part of being a defenseman.
Edit: I haven't seen him play.
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GeorgeKaplan
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Was planning on splitting time between watching Miller and the Rangers, but I literately can’t watch the stream without adding the big ten network to my tv package (BTN+ subscription is apparently very selective) and I’m not dealing with that, I’ll follow what I can on twitter
GeorgeKaplan
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It’s impressive to me all around, he’s trusted enough to be put into those positions and he’s excelling on and off the scoreboard
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Miller has an assist and 3 shot attempts (none on goal) and a block through 2 periods so far
Thanks for the updates man! Much appreciated.
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