GDT: 2018 Free Agency: Jay Beagle 4 x 3M, Antoine Roussel 4 x 3.25M, both w/ limited NTCs

[opendoor]

Pretty much. You could buy it out after the 19-20 season and get the cap hit down to 1.5M but there would still be a 2.5M cap hit in year 4 and then two more years at 500k after that.

Absolutely gross. There was no reason for Jay Beagle to get any of his contract through signing bonuses. Jesus Christ, Jim.

It's almost sad watching agents play Benning like a fiddle in negotiations. They know once he locks in on someone he likes they can just keep driving the price upwards.

 

[Melvin]

Thank God we signed Jay Beagle to teach Elias Pettersson how to win. Kid is a born loser who has never won anything.

 

[Motte and Bailey]

Why would I remove Sutter and Gagner?

Pay attention to the thread CF they’re rumored to be on the block.

 

[VancouverJagger]

Do you think hockey fandom resembles many things in real life?

Like, when you see fans dressed up in face paint and with foam pucks on their head do you ask yourself “I wonder if these people dress up like this to go to work?”

Because it’s getting hard to tell if you actually believe any of the stupid crap you write on these boards.

Ok Cliff...........feel free to spout off on another sermon that clearly demonstrates your obvious intelligence and moral superiority. I Still haven't heard you mention what you think Benning should have done? (other than eat rat poison and die). I'm dying to hear what your sage suggestions are re where Benning should have spent our FA $$? All I've seen you do is complain and make comments like the above (granted if something is working for you why change it?)

 

[Melvin]

I mean literally the first thing I thought when I heard about the Beagle contract was that the new GM will be buying that out in June.

Jim actually made it so that's not possible. Incredible. Absolutely astonishing, the level of sheer stupidity at the helm.

 

[RobsonStreet]

That the preponderance of posters on this board are individuals who aren't happy unless they are unhappy with management and assuming the worst.......often in an overly dramatic way? Got it - fully aware of those facts yes thanks..........

Two constants in hockey fandom:

1. People on sports radio call in shows saying the backup goaltender should be the starter.

2. People on hockey forums are more vocal when things are going poorly. It’s about the only upshot to having a poorly run team. A fair few of the longtime posters here were relatively quiet through the cup contention years (except to debate Luongo/Schneider), probably because there are only so many ways to say, “man, remember when we signed Dan Hamhuis and traded for Christian Ehrhoff? Still awesome.”

 

[Warh1ppy]

The common theme between this and last years signings is term.

Almost all ending between 2020 and 2022 or right about the point in time our young kids will need extensions or new contracts. The lack of NTCs is also not a bad thing either.

This is a whole lotta meh right now and as always shows that GMs cannot control themselves. But judging by the contracts handed out in the last 24 hours JB certainly didn't go as overboard as some did.

You may now tell me exactly why I am wrong and how nobody can be positive without being a homer or fan boy

 

[VancouverJagger]

So you admit that the only department excelling is the one that has literally the least amount of impact and influence from the General Manager?

Lol you think they'd trade Sutter because we just made him redundant–85% of the roster is redundant and they absolutely refuse to trade a single NHLer for a pick. Dude they're trying to compete. Again.

Yeah imagine that............a GM trying to improve his team? And compete? Go figure............What is this world coming to?

 

[WTG]

I always am appalled at how people preach for these "character players". You know what impacts team moral? Winning and lossing.

Nothing can tank moral quicker then losing (Edmonton), and nothing can bring a group together like winning (Las Vegas).

Now understanding that, how is spending 8 million on four 4th liners going to help you win?

 

[CanaFan]

You can’t expect kids to not be kids.

Hmmm. I think you don’t have a very good understanding of the type of personality and dedication gets you to the top .01% of hockey players in the world.

 

[CanaFan]

Pay attention to the thread CF they’re rumored to be on the block.

Rumoured by who? @VanJagger and some other Benning apologists who desperately want it to be true?

 

[Paulinvancouver]

Thank God we signed Jay Beagle to teach Elias Pettersson how to win. Kid is a born loser who has never won anything.

actually, Pettersson has had a good bit of success in his young career.

No success in the NHL yet though.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Listening to Ferraro on TSN, he does not like the term on the two signings today..at all.

Claims that the Canucks have incredible talent,and the team is on the upswing which we will see in the next couple years.

 

[Fire Benning]

So much for notion of signing Beagle might mean they’re trading Sutter.

 

[timw33]

Yeah imagine that............a GM trying to improve his team? And compete? Go figure............What is this world coming to?

Ok, so let's just take the premise of: Jim Benning is trying to improve the team and compete and then take a look at the the last 3 years culmulative standings.

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

Thank God we signed Jay Beagle to teach Elias Pettersson how to win. Kid is a born loser who has never won anything.

You can’t be serious. First player to win a ECHL, AHL and NHL championship.

Sounds like a winner to me.

 

[timw33]

You can’t be serious. First player to win a ECHL, AHL and NHL championship.

Sounds like a winner to me.

There isn't going to be much winning going on while Jay is here. He's not surrounded with a deep, elite team, like he has been in Washington. The situation in Vancouver is dire.

 

[JuniorNelson]

Benning's signings seem to preclude any rookies in the line-up? Well, maybe Demko beats out Nilsson?

 

[RobsonStreet]

Rumoured by who? @VanJagger and some other Benning apologists who desperately want it to be true?

No it’s true. My uncle works at Nintendo.

 

[ALLCAPSALLTHETIME]

There isn't going to be much winning going on while Jay is here. He's not surrounded with a deep, elite team, like he has been in Washington. The situation in Vancouver is dire.

Lots of young talent. Canucks are on the rise.

Beagle is a glue guy. He’ll help keep things together.

Trust me, I know the despair and hand wringing going on in Vancouver. I’ve been a Caps fan for 40 years. I’ve seen a lot more downs than ups. Better days are ahead for the Canucks.

 

[y2kcanucks]

You listed 6 players, 3 of which aren’t all that vocal or active leaders. MDZ, okay maybe. Biega is a career AHLer / 7th defender.

That’s still not enough. Do you remember how clueless you were about life in your late teens and early 20s? How can you have a team full of guys like that outnumbering true veterans 3-to-1 and expect maintain a professional workmanlike winning culture?

I listed more than 6 players. I gave you a second list.

What you want is a veteran team. That’s what you’re asking for.

 

[Paulinvancouver]

The common theme between this and last years signings is term.

Almost all ending between 2020 and 2022 or right about the point in time our young kids will need extensions or new contracts. The lack of NTCs is also not a bad thing either.

This is a whole lotta meh right now and as always shows that GMs cannot control themselves. But judging by the contracts handed out in the last 24 hours JB certainly didn't go as overboard as some did.

You may now tell me exactly why I am wrong and how nobody can be positive without being a homer or fan boy

I think this is one of the few sane posts on this board today. Well done.

 

[RandV]

This is a whole lotta meh right now and as always shows that GMs cannot control themselves. But judging by the contracts handed out in the last 24 hours JB certainly didn't go as overboard as some did.

You may now tell me exactly why I am wrong and how nobody can be positive without being a homer or fan boy

Care to point out exactly who went more overboard than Jim Benning today? Aside from Vancouver this has got to be one of the most restrained July 1sts in recent memory.

 

[Warh1ppy]

Ok, so let's just take the premise of: Jim Benning is trying to improve the team and compete and then take a look at the the last 3 years culmulative standings.

The issue with this is that people cannot look forward to the future at all. Only the now or the then.

The future for this 47 year fan is brighter than it ever has been. These signings are a lot of meh. The kids will play, the meat will grind it out and we won't have to worry about dreary boring hockey as much anymore.

The term on these guys is the only concern and even that isn't so bad when you consider it fits the timeline perfectly for the kids we have who will need new contracts in 2-4 years.

We weren't landing anyone else this off season anyways so again.

Meh

 

[WTG]

“Maybe (Travis Green) can play (Sutter) up and down the lineup with better offensive players,” Benning said. “(Green) has options there.”
“Yeah, if you look at the numbers, the analytics, (Sutter) almost started every time in the defensive zone,” Benning said. “So adding Jay to our team will take some of the pressure off him because Jay can do that too.
“Maybe Sutter gets more offensive zone starts.
“It will be up to Travis as to how he wants to deploy his guys but that gives him options.”

Imagine believing that they'll move Sutter... You are living in a pipedream.