GDT: 2018 Free Agency: Jay Beagle 4 x 3M, Antoine Roussel 4 x 3.25M, both w/ limited NTCs

[krutovsdonut]

John Shannon‏Verified account @JSportsnet 44s45 seconds ago
Sven Baertschi re-ups with Vancouver. 3 years. 10 million.

that's a great signing. what the heck.

 

[Hansen]

It appears Beagle is buyout proof lol

Do we also get hit with nice cap recapture if he retires?

 

[RobsonStreet]

See - this a prime example of lack of objective thinking..........On one hand the Bashers kick and scream about Sutters contract.........on the other hand if Benning moves on from that contract and replaces it from a just an effective player for 1 mill less a year you will still find a way to indite him for us.

As a doctor*, I love this line of logic. There was this one time I misdiagnosed a patient and prescribed medication that caused partial paralysis for a few months. I’m not sure why the medical board got so uppity; it’s not like I didn’t eventually identify and fix the problem by stopping the treatment. Why so serious?

*not actually a doctor

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Glad he’s back but ...are we icing any defenseman ?

 

[y2kcanucks]

These were good signings so yes he is.

Do you want Jonathan Dahlen on the 4th line?

Do you want career AHLer Darren Archibald to be the veteran mentor in the room?

No these aren't good signings.

Darren Archibald scored 8 fewer points than Roussel last season despite playing in 46 fewer games. Yet you're fine with that?

Why do you act as if Archibald would be "the veteran mentor" in the room? Isn't that what we're paying Eriksson, Sutter, Gagner, and Gudbranson to do? What about Tanev and Edler? Why are we keeping them around? How many veterans do you need?

 

[pgj98m3]

These were good signings so yes he is.

Do you want Jonathan Dahlen on the 4th line?

Do you want career AHLer Darren Archibald to be the veteran mentor in the room?

Better than “I’ve got my millions time to do nothing” Eriksson, or “Pay me lots so I can throw other players under the bus while consistently under performing” Sutter, or “I might be big but don’t expect me to hit anybody or play defence” Gudbranson.

 

[passive voice]

It appears Beagle is buyout proof lol

hahahaha

 

[timw33]

I'm an objective thinker who isn't above criticizing Benning and company - I'm not here to blither blindly about how amazing Benning is. My personal thoughts are that the Benning regime excels at drafting..........and as a result I can live with some other areas that aren't always perfect. Right now the biggest upside for our team is at the draft..........and it's going to continue to be that way for another couple of years (granted my bar may be set rather low thanks to years of ineptitude at the draft table courtesy of other regimes).

I've maintained that he's improving at his job..........trading Sutter and getting rid of some of the other riff raft on the team would continue to support that notion.

So you admit that the only department excelling is the one that has literally the least amount of impact and influence from the General Manager?

Lol you think they'd trade Sutter because we just made him redundant–85% of the roster is redundant and they absolutely refuse to trade a single NHLer for a pick. Dude they're trying to compete. Again.

 

[VancouverJagger]

You’re acting like these guys are the cream of the crop. They’re replacement level trash that you’re trying to rationalize as good moves if 13 different scenarios happen afterwards .
Any scenario where you’re overpaying bums is a fail.

Enjoy this mess though. You deserve it.

Well no they aren't the cream of the crop - I can only imagine the outrage if he would have actually signed a high end player.

And bums? There were numerous other teams in play for both Roussel and Beagle........but according to you they are bums?

One can logically assume the only way these "bums" were going to come here was for more money and term.......

 

[Quinning]

About half this team is overpaid and bad value.

Not the way to win.

 

[Melvin]

And there it is!! Deflect!

Without even clicking "show ignored content," let me guess - something about Gillis.

 

[Melvin]

Do we also get hit with nice cap recapture if he retires?

LMFAO we made JAY BEAGLE's contract Buyout proof?!?!?!??! what in the actual christing f***?

Does Jim Benning just have agents send over contracts for him to sign without even looking at them?!

Like how is this shit real?

 

[pgj98m3]

I'm an objective thinker who isn't above criticizing Benning and company - I'm not here to blither blindly about how amazing Benning is. My personal thoughts are that the Benning regime excels at drafting..........and as a result I can live with some other areas that aren't always perfect. Right now the biggest upside for our team is at the draft..........and it's going to continue to be that way for another couple of years (granted my bar may be set rather low thanks to years of ineptitude at the draft table courtesy of other regimes).

I've maintained that he's improving at his job..........trading Sutter and getting rid of some of the other riff raft on the team would continue to support that notion.

Except he hasn’t done any of that. If drafting is his forte than why haven’t they acquired picks so he can show his talent???

 

[y2kcanucks]

It appears Beagle is buyout proof lol

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this just gets better and better

 

[VancouverJagger]

What did Arizona pay for Grabner?

What did Edmonton pay for Rieder?

Jesus, even Calgary signed Derek Ryan for a far better amount and term than we did.

As bad as today’s been for the club, the biggest farce is you pretending to be anything resembling “objective”.

Well in the context of what I posted about trading Sutter and Gagne and getting rid of our other riff raft today's moves make a lot more sense now don't they? Benning and Green both wanted our team to get tougher and grittier. I would say todays signings accomplished that.

 

[VanJack]

Just caught the TSN press conference....Yep, no doubt about it.... With Beagle signed as one of the most expensive fourth-line centers in all of hockey, Sutter is being 'moved up the lineup'...Jimbo actually said it twice. The offensive equivalent of a black hole is moving up to second-line center....please pray for the wingers who end up with him.

 

[Pip]

Yeah you think? Like the dearth of high end skill players (thank you Gillis)........or the fact we have 2 top four defensemen and the rest are all 5-8's? Ok Mr. GM - what do you suggest we do to address those as you mentioned much bigger problems? Dying to hear your thoughts.........

I guess you were ok with the lack of pushback from our club then?

Gillis is f***ing gone man, let it go.

 

[pgj98m3]

Just caught the TSN press conference....Yep, no doubt about it.... With Beagle signed as one of the most expensive fourth-line centers in all of hockey, Sutter is being 'moved up the lineup'...Jimbo actually said it twice. The offensive equivalent of a black hole is moving up to second-line center....please pray for the wingers who end up with him.

All in for Hughes

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Sutter will be gone. I can see him traded for a more offensive style Center of the same caliber. Since California teams are interested, maybe a Sutter-Henrique swap or something like that.

 

[THE Green Man]

John Shannon‏Verified account @JSportsnet 44s45 seconds ago
Sven Baertschi re-ups with Vancouver. 3 years. 10 million.

Shockingly good contract. Funny though that he did not get that 4th year

These were good signings so yes he is.

Do you want Jonathan Dahlen on the 4th line?

Do you want career AHLer Darren Archibald to be the veteran mentor in the room?

The signings were terrible. The players involved are not. If either of these deals were on a 2 year contract no one would care. Benning would actually probably get a little praise. But on 4 year deals it is idiotic and unnecessary.

 

[Hansen]

Sutter will be gone. I can see him traded for a more offensive style Center of the same caliber. Since California teams are interested, maybe a Sutter-Henrique swap or something like that.

Sutter to Anaheim for picks would be the dream but absolute 0 chance it happens. Sutter is the most likely candidate to be our next Captain. Green doesn't trust Bo, he even took away his A to give to MDZ this year

 

[Pip]

Glad he’s back but ...are we icing any defenseman ?

We got the same one as last year! Cause we didn’t need any changes there

 

[WTG]

Just caught the TSN press conference....Yep, no doubt about it.... With Beagle signed as one of the most expensive fourth-line centers in all of hockey, Sutter is being 'moved up the lineup'...Jimbo actually said it twice. The offensive equivalent of a black hole is moving up to second-line center....please pray for the wingers who end up with him.

Ehhhhh we 2016-17 Canucks now boiz, 200+ PP TOI inc for Brandon "Foundational" Sutter

 

[Melvin]

This can't be stressed enough.

Jim Benning signed 33 year old 4th line plug Jay Beagle to a 4 year contract that is buyout-proof.

You can't make this shit up. My low expectations have been shattered.

 

[petrishriekandgo]

Just caught the TSN press conference....Yep, no doubt about it.... With Beagle signed as one of the most expensive fourth-line centers in all of hockey, Sutter is being 'moved up the lineup'...Jimbo actually said it twice. The offensive equivalent of a black hole is moving up to second-line center....please pray for the wingers who end up with him.

Roussell-Sutter-Pettersson... book it. Pettersson will be passing to himself or waiting in the slot looking for a pass for his entire rookie season. - sigh -