Rumor: 2018-19 Kings News/Rumors/Tidbits

[King'sPawn]

If you are just speaking cap wise...yes, agreed. But Panarin is a dynamic talent, where if you have to trade a Toffoli to make it work, bye. Trade a Martinez, bye. Trade a Pearson, bye.

It doesn't matter how much Vilardi costs if he doesn't produce.....now he might be produce, but he might not....weighing decisions based on cap and not production is not a good thing.

A responsible GM should weigh both, along with other factors, like organizational direction.

To me, trading Vilardi for Panarin factors in production, but ignores organizational need to have a manageable cap and identifying the right young players to build around. So far, nobody drafted after 2014 has shown the ability to play on the top 6/top 4 or shown some leadership qualities. They need to keep the young assets they can.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

Apparently TSN mentioned that there is a 6th mystery team in the mix for Tavares. I hope its the Kings. With a talent like Tavares, you sign and think about the cap later.

Probably Vegas. Hasn't there been a lot of smoke around them and Tavares?

 

[lexlavender]

The only way you trade for Panarin or Skinner is for an upgrade on wing, not to add a winger. We are not in a position to trade young assets, especially Vilardi. You can only trade one of Toffoli or Pearson, and then deal from a position of strength, which means dealing either Muzzin, Martinez, Forbort, Brickley, Gravel, or Phanuef. That's the ONLY type of deal that will be in our interests.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Best of luck to both Michael Mersch and Just Auger.

Hopefully they both do well on there new teams.

 

[LAKings88]

Btw you don't trade Toffoli+Anderson Dolan and first for Patches no thank you.For Panarin sure.I wouldn't even trade Muzzin+Anderson Dolan and a first for Patches.

I don’t want too either. Just looking at what it would look like.

I honestly don’t get the add anther forward.

I get trading a Pearson/Toffoli in shake up deals.

LAs top nine with Vilardi looks pretty set imho.

 

[deaderhead28]

Best of luck to both Michael Mersch and Just Auger.

Hopefully they both do well

Jordan Subban as well.He didn't stick.

 

[KingsFan7824]

The only way you trade for Panarin or Skinner is for an upgrade on wing, not to add a winger. We are not in a position to trade young assets, especially Vilardi. You can only trade one of Toffoli or Pearson, and then deal from a position of strength, which means dealing either Muzzin, Martinez, Forbort, Brickley, Gravel, or Phanuef. That's the ONLY type of deal that will be in our interests.

If Toffoli and Pearson had to be included for Panarin, that wouldn't be a problem. Kempe to wing, Amadio as the 3rd center.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Sooo.. we're still looking for a scoring winger up front right? I know last season we gave Loktionov a try-out; maybe we should give this legend one too? He's even played with Kovalchuk!

 

[HowDareYou]

An old Kings Jedi

 

[kings11]

Just read on the MTL board that the deal for MaxPax was as follows
20th overall
JAD
Jacob Moverare
2019 2nd if he didn’t sign
2019 or 20 1st if he did ..

So 2-1st rounders
Jaret Anderson-Dolan
Jacob Moverare
For
One season of pouting, playoff choking MaxPac!!! I think we dodged a bullet there

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Just read on the MTL board that the deal for MaxPax was as follows
20th overall
JAD
Jacob Moverare
2019 2nd if he didn’t sign
2019 or 20 1st if he did ..

So 2-1st rounders
Jaret Anderson-Dolan
Jacob Moverare
For
One season of pouting, playoff choking MaxPac!!! I think we dodged a bullet there

No, not one year, it came with an extension first of all, that's why the deal didn't proceed.....and the image of Pacioretty as a playoff choker is so far from the truth...cmon...at least you guys need to be honest....

 

[kings11]

No, not one year, it came with an extension first of all, that's why the deal didn't proceed.....and the image of Pacioretty as a playoff choker is so far from the truth...cmon...at least you guys need to be honest....

It is being honest, he’ll his own fan base so much as admits it... as for the extension, well it’s a good thing he didn’t sign because no one is giving him 8 years. I’d rather use thise assets on Panarin, who by the way is 3 years younger and twice the offensive threat max is...

 

[LAKings88]

Just read on the MTL board that the deal for MaxPax was as follows
20th overall
JAD
Jacob Moverare
2019 2nd if he didn’t sign
2019 or 20 1st if he did ..

So 2-1st rounders
Jaret Anderson-Dolan
Jacob Moverare
For
One season of pouting, playoff choking MaxPac!!! I think we dodged a bullet there

If true, I would of hated that deal.

Sounds like something a Montreal fan would throw together.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

It is being honest, he’ll his own fan base so much as admits it... as for the extension, well it’s a good thing he didn’t sign because no one is giving him 8 years. I’d rather use thise assets on Panarin, who by the way is 3 years younger and twice the offensive threat max is...

Oh don't get me wrong, depending on the price, and I wouldn't have paid that price for him etc, but saying that Pacioretty is a playoff choker is like saying that so is Panarin....Panarin has 15 points in 17 games, Pacioretty has 19 points in 31 games, here's the difference, Panarin was playing with the likes of Patrick Kane, Marian Hossa, Toews, Dubois, Atkinson,

Care to take a guess who Pacioretty was playing with? Desharnais, Plekanec, the best offensive threat was Subban,

Slight difference in talent there, right?

 

[kingsfan28]

Vilardi in my mind is unavailable even for Panarin.

Muzzin, Toffoli, conditional pick? Sure. Anything more than that is too rich for our blood or opens up MORE holes in various places.

He's a gamebreaker and maybe well worth it, but not willing to throw away Vilardi.




That was the report, yeah, that Blake didn't cave to his demands, and that Patches is looking to cash in since he didn't on his last one.

Yep, he wants to get paid. I'd guess around 6-7 plus times 7. I could see the Kings offering 6 mil x 5.

 

[johnjm22]

Just read on the MTL board that the deal for MaxPax was as follows
20th overall
JAD
Jacob Moverare
2019 2nd if he didn’t sign
2019 or 20 1st if he did ..

So 2-1st rounders
Jaret Anderson-Dolan
Jacob Moverare
For
One season of pouting, playoff choking MaxPac!!! I think we dodged a bullet there

If this is true Rob Blake should be fired.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Pacioretty is the 10th highest goal scorer in the NHL over the past five seasons, with 158 goals in 380 games. He was injured this past season and missed games, which limited him to 17 goals in 64 games. Prior to last season, Pacioretty had four consecutive 30+ goal seasons, and has five seasons of 30+ goals in his career. Those aren't numbers to sneeze at.

His goals per game average is higher than that of Marchand, Kucherov, van Riemsdyk, Kessel, Pastrnak, Carter, Panarin, etc.
Player Season Finder | Hockey-Reference.com

We've seen this before with a premier athlete getting crapped on, only to find himself rejuvenated in a new environment. Gaborik and Carter weren't looked at favorably either when the Kings acquired them. That said, I'm not sure if the Kings will have the cap space to fit in Pacioretty in addition to Kovalchuk and the Doughty extension that kicks in next summer, same time Pacioretty will be due to become a UFA.

 

[Stimpythecat]

I don't like that purported trade.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Pacioretty is the 10th highest goal scorer in the NHL over the past five seasons, with 158 goals in 380 games. He was injured this past season and missed games, which limited him to 17 goals in 64 games. Prior to last season, Pacioretty had four consecutive 30+ goal seasons, and has five seasons of 30+ goals in his career. Those aren't numbers to sneeze at.

His goals per game average is higher than that of Marchand, Kucherov, van Riemsdyk, Kessel, Pastrnak, Carter, Panarin, etc.
Player Season Finder | Hockey-Reference.com

We've seen this before with a premier athlete getting crapped on, only to find himself rejuvenated in a new environment. Gaborik and Carter weren't looked at favorably either when the Kings acquired them. That said, I'm not sure if the Kings will have the cap space to fix in Pacioretty in addition to Kovalchuk and the Doughty extension that kicks in next summer, same time Pacioretty will be due to become a UFA.

Agreed...I don't know if he's the right acquisition, not for JAD and a 1st, only because the re-signing of him would be massive, and age would play a factor, if he was willing to resign for 3-4 years, then it's better, but he's not gonna do that, nor should he.

 

[Stimpythecat]

There was no salary going out. Looking at this season, it was either pacioretty or kovalchuk but not both or the kings would have had to ship out a mid level contract.

 

[LAKings88]

Pacioretty is the 10th highest goal scorer in the NHL over the past five seasons, with 158 goals in 380 games. He was injured this past season and missed games, which limited him to 17 goals in 64 games. Prior to last season, Pacioretty had four consecutive 30+ goal seasons, and has five seasons of 30+ goals in his career. Those aren't numbers to sneeze at.

His goals per game average is higher than that of Marchand, Kucherov, van Riemsdyk, Kessel, Pastrnak, Carter, Panarin, etc.
Player Season Finder | Hockey-Reference.com

We've seen this before with a premier athlete getting crapped on, only to find himself rejuvenated in a new environment. Gaborik and Carter weren't looked at favorably either when the Kings acquired them. That said, I'm not sure if the Kings will have the cap space to fit in Pacioretty in addition to Kovalchuk and the Doughty extension that kicks in next summer, same time Pacioretty will be due to become a UFA.

I dont like losing a stellar prospect and two firsts for Patches.

This is not what the organization is preaching about youth.

Very short sighted move imho.

If Kovy can match his production how much better does that signing look?

This rumor is from a poster who knows someone that works for the Canadiens. Absolutely no verification for it.

 

[CowMix]

Just read on the MTL board that the deal for MaxPax was as follows
20th overall
JAD
Jacob Moverare
2019 2nd if he didn’t sign
2019 or 20 1st if he did ..

So 2-1st rounders
Jaret Anderson-Dolan
Jacob Moverare
For
One season of pouting, playoff choking MaxPac!!! I think we dodged a bullet there

I doubt this is true, why would there be conditional picks on him resigning if the deal fell because they had problems when discussing an extension with him? You wouldn't need conditional picks if an extension is already agreed to.

 

[kingsfan28]

I mean, we’ve seen across all pro sports that players returning from a big scandal end up making less money on their first contract.

Maybe he makes that much, but it will be a one year deal. No one is willing to sign Voynov to a high AAV, long term deal given his past.

A 1 year, 1 mil show me contract. If he does somehow end up playing for the Kings, he'll still be suspended first because Bettman will want to set a precedent that this stuff won't be tolerated.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I dont like losing a stellar prospect and two firsts for Patches.

This is not what the organization is preaching about youth.

Very short sighted move imho.

If Kovy can match his production how much better does that signing look?

This rumor is from a poster who knows someone that works for the Canadiens. Absolutely no verification for it.

I'm not so much in favor of it either, but if that was what is necessary in order not to lose Vilardi, and if it came with the inclusion of an extension, it was something to consider. But it seemed like all along the preference was to sign Kovalchuk and not to lose any assets, which is exactly what ended up happening, thankfully.

I don't anticipate the Kings to be in on any of the top names remaining in the free agent market, like JVR. Rick Nash is supposedly garnering interest from 8 teams as well, but even with him I'm not sure if he'd be a fit here.

 

[CowMix]

Kings really should go all in on Panarin, we can't win cups without trades with Columbus