Rumor: 2018-19 Kings News/Rumors/Tidbits

[SettlementRichie10]

If it comes down to either signing Voynov or keeping Phaneuf, you get rid of Dion.

In a vacuum, sure. And even though I’ve put forward the theory that Voynov/Kovalchuk were basically a package deal this offseason, who the hell knows.

Voynov is a giant POS. I hate all the virtue signalers around here who act appalled at the idea of him coming back. However, he IS a giant POS. That wasn’t the first time he hit his wife, by her own clear admittance in the original police report. And then he was joking about the entire thing to some reporter at the Olympics.

I dunno, man. Kings may ultimately and wisely stay away from that PR quagmire.

 

[2-4 Slashin]

They just loved the Dwight King trade so much, they want more.

You jerk you made me spit coke out my nose!

 

[Sol]

I'd really like Forbort to become more physical then. We need at least one mean, unrelenting D-man.

He's a giant p***y.

 

[BigKing]

i mean, a locker room that was willing to eat a huge fine to practice with him shortly after it happened

just saying

Did the players pay the fine? That was DL and Sutter that allowed it.

That was also early on, prior to them flaming out the next four seasons.

The point I'm making is that the issue isn't solely "How will the public react" as the players, coaches, management etc. have to be fully on board as well. DL/Sutter could have been, Blake/Stevens not as much.

Going back to when he practiced with the team, this was before #metoo and so forth. Hell, Stacia Robitaille could be telling Luc to not even think about it.

Who knows for sure, except that it isn't just the PR with fans.

 

[Sol]

Who cares about PR? So what, lose some fans. Who cares. They should care about putting together the best possible team they can. Not be scared of a 2 week blow back at most.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Who cares about PR? So what, lose some fans. Who cares. They should care about putting together the best possible team they can. Not be scared of a 2 week blow back at most.

That’s not entirely what BigKing is saying. The public blowback may blow over, sure, but Voynov may cause a major rift in the locker room.

 

[Sol]

That’s not entirely what BigKing is saying. The public blowback may blow over, sure, but Voynov may cause a major rift in the locker room.

From the reports the hesitation seems to be from PR. I think if the team was uncomfortable with Voynov. He wouldn't have been practicing after the allegations.

If it'd create a rift and the brass knows about it. Then yeah you can make a strong case to trade him. But if it's solely PR fears then that is pathetic.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

From the reports the hesitation seems to be from PR. I think if the team was uncomfortable with Voynov. He wouldn't have been practicing after the allegations.

If it'd create a rift and the brass knows about it. Then yeah you can make a strong case to trade him. But if it's solely PR fears then that is pathetic.

I mostly agree. I think if Voynov pays his debt to society in the eyes of the law and NHL, he should be allowed to play. But the league wide reaction would be significantly negative. The Kings would be the most hated team in the league by far. It’s easy to say “who cares” now, but I think people are underestimating the Twitter mob and how miserable they can be.

I’m also personally not wild about the idea of Voynov hoisting the Stanley Cup again. I don’t know if I could bring myself to cheer him when I picture that image.

 

[Sol]

I mostly agree. I think if Voynov pays his debt to society in the eyes of the law and NHL, he should be allowed to play. But the league wide reaction would be significantly negative. The Kings would be the most hated team in the league by far. It’s easy to say “who cares” now, but I think people are underestimating the Twitter mob and how miserable they can be.

I’m also personally not wild about the idea of Voynov hoisting the Stanley Cup again. I don’t know if I could bring myself to cheer him when I picture that image.

Well here's the thing for me, a team like the Kings that has very little media coverage won't be hit hard by the Twitter mob. And if they do, it won't be primarily from hockey fans. It'd be from people who are just catching wind of the situation.

I think if it was a big hockey market then yeah the pr could be a bit too much to deal with

 

[Johnny Utah]

So right now we are looking at...

Kovy-Kopitar-Brown
Pearson-Carter-Toffoli
Iaffalo-Kempe-Lewis
Clifford-Thompson-Brodzinski
extra: Amadio

Doughty-Forbort
Martinez-Phaneuf
Muzzin-LaDue
extras: Fattenberg, MacDermid

Brinkley to Ontario.

 

[BigKing]

This isn't DL's team anymore, except when they fail on the ice and then it is still his team

He practiced with the team four years ago. None of that is even relevant anymore.

Again, I'm not talking about the PR issue with the fans as this has been beaten to death on here. Hell, I was one of the few heavily going to bat for him on the Main Board while he was serving time so I'm not saying they can't or shouldn't have him back; however, it is completely understandable if they simply don't want him back for the myriad of issues it brings up that are not hockey related.

It could come down to Blake and Co. simply wanting to sleep at night. Turn the page and move on. Salvage something out of the asset that seemed to have been completely lost and go from there. Any PR issue will blow over in time, of course, but I can't blame them if they don't want to have to worry about and simply focus on hockey.

 

[ibleedkings]

Vilardi says hello

 

[AlphaBravo]

So right now we are looking at...

Kovy-Kopitar-Brown
Pearson-Carter-Toffoli
Iaffalo-Kempe-Lewis
Clifford-Thompson-Brodzinski
extra: Amadio

Doughty-Forbort
Martinez-Phaneuf
Muzzin-LaDue
extras: Fattenberg, MacDermid

Brinkley to Ontario.

Although its not 100% certain, I would pencil in Vilardi on the third line. Based on comments we heard, I think he is almost a lock to make the team out of camp. I would have a third line of Iafallo-Kempe-Vilardi, and move Lewis to the fourth line with Thompson or Amadio and Clifford.

Assuming the Kings use the cap space available to sign a guy like Vanek to a one-year deal, that would potentially be a boost to our depth. Vanek could rotate in on the second line if he is showing a bounce back, and we can move Pearson with Vilardi and Kempe. This will allow us to move Iafallo with Lewis on the fourth line which will give us strong scoring depth.

 

[ibleedkings]

So right now we are looking at...

Kovy-Kopitar-Brown
Pearson-Carter-Toffoli
Iaffalo-Kempe-Lewis
Clifford-Thompson-Brodzinski
extra: Amadio

Doughty-Forbort
Martinez-Phaneuf
Muzzin-LaDue
extras: Fattenberg, MacDermid

Brinkley to Ontario.

Vilardi says hello

 

[Johnny Utah]

Vilardi is 18 and will be 19 come opening night.

 

[kings11]

If it comes down to either signing Voynov or keeping Phaneuf, you get rid of Dion.

But it doesn’t, I comes down to signing VV then moving Muzzin or Martinez + for another scoring threat !
Forbort-Doughty
Phaneuf-Voynov
Fantenberg/Brinkley-Martinez

 

[deaderhead28]

That’s not entirely what BigKing is saying. The public blowback may blow over, sure, but Voynov may cause a major rift in the locker room.

Pure speculation.People make mistakes and learn from them.VV story seems to get a lil carried away since no one but him and his wife know what really happen in detail.

 

[lumbergh]

Call me crazy, but I would like the Kings to explore having MacDermid skate as a left winger every once in a while. He’s absolutely intimidating with his size. Park him in front of the opposing goalie. Someone would need to teach him how to tip shots.

Put a little thought in the back of the head in guys like Carrier or Reaves.

 

[eleventy]

Eh, it's been a while since this army has had a criminal anyway...

 

[Herby]

The Kings toughness is going to have to mostly come from Kyle Clifford.

The Kings top 9 would have to be incredible for the team to dress someone like MacD, and if they did they'd have to scratch Clifford anyways.

 

[Little Psycho]

Tavares' decision is holding everything up

 

[BigKing]

People can make mistakes and learn from them, sure. People can also make mistakes and never learn from them, just to play Devil's advocate.

This discussion isn't about what happened and it is definitely not one that lends itself to the idea that some of us need a "crying room". I took all the slings and arrows from HF when this was still a fresh topic, stating how he should be able to play in the NHL after serving his time, how they were staying together and how making him go to Russia could actually be a further detriment to the victim in the case since it isn't what she wanted.

The point is that we don't know that there is mutual interest between both parties and I wouldn't blame the Kings or Voynov if either of them wanted to turn the page.

All I want out of this from a fan's perspective is, at a minimum, to gain some sort of asset(s) from it. I'm fine with him being on the team again but I also understand if the Kings want to move on.

 

[lumbergh]

The Kings toughness is going to have to mostly come from Kyle Clifford.

The Kings top 9 would have to be incredible for the team to dress someone like MacD, and if they did they'd have to scratch Clifford anyways.

I just don’t feel like Clifford is all that intimidating these days. Yes he fights, but he doesn’t deter.

 

[BigKing]

I'm fine with dressing MacDermid as the back up goalie. I just want him dressed and ready to be deployed.

 

[johnjm22]

Iaffalo-Kempe-Vilardi on the 3rd line is 3 very inexperienced players. I do like having Vilardi's size mixed with Kempe and Iaffalo's speed and energy.