KingsFan7824
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He doesn't even fall down in the offensive zone while he has the puck on his stick either.
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He doesn't even fall down in the offensive zone while he has the puck on his stick either.
Axl Rhoadz
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No offense, but that’s the dumbest thing I’ve read in awhile.
lexlavender
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Not true that the power play had no effect. It was a primary reason for the team making playoffs down the stretch.
Ziggy Stardust
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It certainly helped, but I wouldn't say it was the primary reason. They had that one game where they netted 3 PP goals against Calgary. Overall, the offense got hot at that time. Brown and Kopitar had their four goal games, Carter had his hot streak. And then the playoffs came along...
BigKing
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I felt good about the first round because of how the power play was performing. I liked the match up of the Kings defense v. their offense and did not respect the Vegas defense so I figured the Kings would pot some power play goals.
Well, I got the defense part right. PP went cold and it was all over.
Kovalchuk's greatest asset is his shot. Kings have had nothing like that for a very long time. Teams will have to respect it so, even if it isn't Kovalchuk scoring, I imagine it would open up chances for others.
Well, I got the defense part right. PP went cold and it was all over.
Kovalchuk's greatest asset is his shot. Kings have had nothing like that for a very long time. Teams will have to respect it so, even if it isn't Kovalchuk scoring, I imagine it would open up chances for others.
johnjm22
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PP rank of NHL teams with Kovalchuk:
[TABLE="class: brtb_item_table"][TBODY][TR][TD]YEAR[/TD][TD]TEAM[/TD][TD]PP RANK[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]SH GOALS AGAINST[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]01/02[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]29TH[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]12 (most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]02/03[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]13th[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]14 (most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]03/04[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]23rd[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]7 (19th most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]05/06[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]7th[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]10 (17th most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]06/07[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]23rd[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]10 (12 most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]07/08[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]23rd[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]10 (5th most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]08/09[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]11th[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]10 (8th most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]09/10[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]25th[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]5 (22nd most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]09/10[/TD][TD]Devils[/TD][TD]11th[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]4 (23rd most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]10/11[/TD][TD]Devils[/TD][TD]28th[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]8 (8th most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]11/12[/TD][TD]Devils[/TD][TD]14th[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]13 (most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]12/13[/TD][TD]Devils[/TD][TD]21st[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]6 (2nd most in NHL)[/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
AVERAGE PP RANK: 19th
AVERAGE SHORT HANDED GOALS AGAINST: 11th most in the NHL
(Kovalchuk has a tendency to make risky plays that lead to SH opportunities for the opposition)
[TABLE="class: brtb_item_table"][TBODY][TR][TD]YEAR[/TD][TD]TEAM[/TD][TD]PP RANK[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]SH GOALS AGAINST[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]01/02[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]29TH[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]12 (most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]02/03[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]13th[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]14 (most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]03/04[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]23rd[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]7 (19th most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]05/06[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]7th[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]10 (17th most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]06/07[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]23rd[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]10 (12 most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]07/08[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]23rd[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]10 (5th most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]08/09[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]11th[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]10 (8th most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]09/10[/TD][TD]Thrashers[/TD][TD]25th[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]5 (22nd most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]09/10[/TD][TD]Devils[/TD][TD]11th[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]4 (23rd most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]10/11[/TD][TD]Devils[/TD][TD]28th[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]8 (8th most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]11/12[/TD][TD]Devils[/TD][TD]14th[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]13 (most in NHL)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]12/13[/TD][TD]Devils[/TD][TD]21st[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]6 (2nd most in NHL)[/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
AVERAGE PP RANK: 19th
AVERAGE SHORT HANDED GOALS AGAINST: 11th most in the NHL
(Kovalchuk has a tendency to make risky plays that lead to SH opportunities for the opposition)
I like this graph but some of those Thrasher teams were just bad, so it's hard to put these numbers on him.
BigKing
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I respect the work that went in to digging through the Trashers historical PP numbers.
2-4 Slashin
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I truly laughed out loud at work over this and shot soda out of my nose! But I couldn’t do that to Carter after the two cups! Am I getting DL sentimental?!?!
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johnjm22
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Point is there's no correlation between Kovalchuk and having a good PP. There does seem to be a small correlation between having IK and giving up short handers. As Devils poster Brodeur pointed out he makes high risk plays on the PP.
Those Atlanta teams were mostly good offensively. They had plenty of offensively talented players most of the time. When Kovalchuk left Atlanta in 09/10 their PP actually improved the following year.
I generally like the Kovalchuk signing. I am excited to see what he'll do here but there are concerns. People keep bringing up the PP as one of the main reasons for having him, but I'm more interested in what he'll do at even strength.
Those Atlanta teams were mostly good offensively. They had plenty of offensively talented players most of the time. When Kovalchuk left Atlanta in 09/10 their PP actually improved the following year.
I generally like the Kovalchuk signing. I am excited to see what he'll do here but there are concerns. People keep bringing up the PP as one of the main reasons for having him, but I'm more interested in what he'll do at even strength.
Steve Zissou
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It's been a week since we signed the guy and we're still miles away from the start of the season.
Any idea on how much longer are you going to continue this wonderful prediction? (I've got to plan my summer accordingly)
johnjm22
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Shellz
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The guy just needs to score goals. I dont think any of us care how it’s done.
tny760
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pffffffffffff 2:40............. that pass was a skate-to-stick for every other forward in the NHL, he scoops it from between his legs and still roofs it. incredible.
KingsHockey24
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The Tikkanen
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Kovalchuk has also never been on a team that had Kopitar, Doughty and Quick or a locker room full of 2 time champions. He doesn't have to be the guy here, let the guy play before we sell him down the river. The GM went out and got a former first overall draft pick, probably the most talented player since Palffy and most importantly Kovalchuk chose to play here. These things haven't happened often in Kings history.
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Kings4thecup
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We all know Kovalchuk only scores in blowouts....
IK is a stud. He played with some pretty good talent in Russia, but he is used to being the best player on the team. Even at 35, I think he will be able to score without issue. His shot is pretty top notch. He is a serious upgrade to our top line.
IK is a stud. He played with some pretty good talent in Russia, but he is used to being the best player on the team. Even at 35, I think he will be able to score without issue. His shot is pretty top notch. He is a serious upgrade to our top line.
Maybe a sign something will happen
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
To be fair Marc Savard was a great enabler for him and prime Hossa or Heatley were phenomenal forwards as well. Definitely next to nothing on the back end or in goal though.
Reclamation Project
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Some of his best seasons were on a team that doesn't exist anymore. That says a lot about the support he had.
lumbergh
It was an idea. I didn't say it was a good idea.
Maybe a sign that the Kings are done with the summer. Sign your RFAs and Doughty and get ready for September!
Ziggy Stardust
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Interesting insight from Brad Richards when he was a UFA and how he came down to choosing between LA and NY.
https://www.bardown.com/brad-richar...lmost-signed-with-l-a-kings-in-2011-1.1125340
https://www.bardown.com/brad-richar...lmost-signed-with-l-a-kings-in-2011-1.1125340
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