Post-Game Talk: 2017 redux

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Only 15 pages this time

The fans have stopped caring.

 

[Senor Catface]

@Oilhawks

I think you have a stalker on the mains.

 

[Soundwave]

I think they took the Cup or Bust slogan too literally.

@Oilhawks

I think you have a stalker on the mains.

 

[Cloned]

Look at the Rangers lineup. Its one solid vet after another. I mean they have 10 players on there that have been allstars even without checking. Half a dozen others that have been core players. Tonight wasn't even fair and was pretty much a foregone conclusion. Against the Rangers we're outgunned and outmanned. Thats a tough game to win with the kind of talent and depth Rangers are throwing over the boards.

Rangers had some core players going. We had guys like RNH and Nurse.

I think Holland or whoever the next GM is will have to bite the bullet and deal with the biggest issue on defense (and possibly the team).

Nurse.

He’s possibly more overpaid than any other player on the team (scary when there is Jack Campbell and post-injury Kane on the roster).

His salary alone has handcuffed our ability to improve the roster.

His play is inconsistent.

His friendship with McDavid makes it tough to make a move. But a move likely has to be made if they want to win.

 

[Soundwave]

I think Holland or whoever the next GM is will have to bite the bullet and deal with the biggest issue on defense (and possibly the team).

Nurse.

He’s possibly more overpaid than any other player on the team (scary when there is Jack Campbell and post-injury Kane on the roster).

His salary alone has handcuffed our ability to improve the roster.

His play is inconsistent.

His friendship with McDavid makes it tough to make a move. But a move likely has to be made if they want to win.

You can't trade him IMO. Sutter could work miracles with him though.

 

[guymez]

Look at the Rangers lineup. Its one solid vet after another. I mean they have 10 players on there that have been allstars even without checking. Half a dozen others that have been core players. Tonight wasn't even fair and was pretty much a foregone conclusion. Against the Rangers we're outgunned and outmanned. Thats a tough game to win with the kind of talent and depth Rangers are throwing over the boards.

Rangers had some core players going. We had guys like RNH and Nurse.

I was really impressed with the Rangers in this game.
They looked to me like a veteran team that had everything under control. They didnt try to do too much and so they didnt have to expend more effort than was required.
They played a calm game.
They looked solid to me from front to back.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I think Holland or whoever the next GM is will have to bite the bullet and deal with the biggest issue on defense (and possibly the team).

Nurse.

He’s possibly more overpaid than any other player on the team (scary when there is Jack Campbell and post-injury Kane on the roster).

His salary alone has handcuffed our ability to improve the roster.

His play is inconsistent.

His friendship with McDavid makes it tough to make a move. But a move likely has to be made if they want to win.

I am all for moving Nurse--but say at 50% retained for the next 6 years it is a steep price pay---4.5 in dead cap?

 

[Soundwave]

I was really impressed with the Rangers in this game.
They looked to me like a veteran team that had everything under control. They didnt try to do too much and so they didnt have to expend more effort than was required.
They played a calm game.
They looked solid to me from front to back.

Laviolette is a hard ass coach, there wasn't gonna be any of that 6-5 type of game crap from them tonight.

 

[gordonhught]

I think Holland or whoever the next GM is will have to bite the bullet and deal with the biggest issue on defense (and possibly the team).

Nurse.

He’s possibly more overpaid than any other player on the team (scary when there is Jack Campbell and post-injury Kane on the roster).

His salary alone has handcuffed our ability to improve the roster.

His play is inconsistent.

His friendship with McDavid makes it tough to make a move. But a move likely has to be made if they want to win.

Just trade the whole team.

Screw the team and screw Jack Michaels and screw Woodcroft and Manson and screw that Dustin Scwatrz.

 

[Mr Kot]

I am all for moving Nurse--but say at 50% retained for the next 6 years it is a steep price pay---4.5 in dead cap?

I can see it only if they have to trade mcdavid/drai (or both) and decide to rebuild and not care about cap as much. But yeah, pipe dream.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I was really impressed with the Rangers in this game.
They looked to me like a veteran team that had everything under control. They didnt try to do too much and so they didnt have to expend more effort than was required.
They played a calm game.
They looked solid to me from front to back.

With their personnel they should be. It was not one of their better efforts though. I thought they were weak and inattentive in 3rd but that was with a 3 goal lead. Its a vet loaded squad. Their issue will be what kind of legs will that team have by April. The Rangers really dialed in though in 2nd period, and its the way they can play with an allstar lineup. They're worth watching.

 

[McOilers97]

I think Holland or whoever the next GM is will have to bite the bullet and deal with the biggest issue on defense (and possibly the team).

Nurse.

He’s possibly more overpaid than any other player on the team (scary when there is Jack Campbell and post-injury Kane on the roster).

His salary alone has handcuffed our ability to improve the roster.

His play is inconsistent.

His friendship with McDavid makes it tough to make a move. But a move likely has to be made if they want to win.

Not saying that he’s worth $9.25m (he isn’t), but peoples’ eye-test on Nurse always seems to show him in a more negative light than the actual statistics do. Even strength this season he was 5 goals for, 5 goals against coming into tonight’s game. He was on for 2 against tonight, but by and large, he’s been breaking even in goal differential the last number of years here.

Again, not arguing that he’s amazing, and yes we could do more with the roster if he was paid less, but I see a lot of people not using their heads when they criticize this player because they hate his salary so much.

 

[iCanada]

I do worry about McDavid and Draisaitl's intensity in scenarios like this.

Those two burn with the fire of 1000 suns. If it goes shit like this for too long you run risk of that fire burning out or them turning into Messier in Vancouver.

If we don't turn it around soon, Holland needs to do something.

 

[MessierII]

This is a we have crap management that builds rosters that have huge holes in and people get blinded to those holes because when things are good McDavid makes everything seem OK, even close to (gasp) a Cup.

It's actually probably good for this team to go through this ... this management needs to be shamed for what they've done on defense and in net and no hide behind the "but we're close to winning, it's just going to magically happen for us if we just keep getting kicks at the can" which is basically exactly what Holland's thinking is. Because Detroit won by getting kicks at the can, magically it's supposed to happen for the Oilers.

This team had a total embarrassing display in net last year, and just brought back the same tandem and then also with a straight face are talking about basically the job is finished with Connor Brown being added.

The gall of these morons.

If only they had a good gm like dubas right?

 

[Soundwave]

I do worry about McDavid and Draisaitl's intensity in scenarios like this.

Those two burn with the fire of 1000 suns. If it goes shit like this for too long you run risk of that fire burning out or them turning into Messier in Vancouver.

If we don't turn it around soon, Holland needs to do something.

If only they had a good gm like dubas right?

Dubas is better, honestly the Oilers have the worst management in Canada probably and that's saying something because the Canadian teams all have some level of mismanagement going on. Dubas at least had the brains to not give Campbell that contract which is probably going to cost us a kidney to get out of.

 

[Oilhawks]

@Oilhawks

I think you have a stalker on the mains.

I ended up ignoring them last time they tagged me. Seems like a sad individual. Not sure what I did to garner such attention as I never visit the mains lol

 

[Senor Catface]

I ended up ignoring them last time they tagged me. Seems like a sad individual. Not sure what I did to garner such attention as I never visit the mains lol

Haha, I think I'm next.

He tagged me, and I swear I've never talked to them before.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Boys are playing the zone like a 5 man penalty kill. No pressure with a poor transition and easy zone entries for the other team. Tentative and unsure of themselves, confidence is shot.

Wrong system for the wrong players.

They lose vs Calgary it’s gonna get fugly.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Kulak, Desharnais and Ceci combined for 0 hits today. ZERO!!! This is PROFESSIONAL ICE HOCKEY!!!! HOW DO YOU HAVE NO HITS?????

What is WRONG with this team?

 

[Soundwave]

Kulak, Desharnais and Ceci combined for 0 hits today. ZERO!!! This is PROFESSIONAL ICE HOCKEY!!!! HOW DO YOU HAVE NO HITS?????

What is WRONG with this team?

Zero hits is the perfect game.

 

[guymez]

With their personnel they should be. It was not one of their better efforts though. I thought they were weak and inattentive in 3rd but that was with a 3 goal lead. Its a vet loaded squad. Their issue will be what kind of legs will that team have by April. The Rangers really dialed in though in 2nd period, and its the way they can play with an allstar lineup. They're worth watching.

I gave the Oilers a little credit in the 3rd.
They upped their game and it pushed the Rangers out of their comfort zone a little.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

I can see it only if they have to trade mcdavid/drai (or both) and decide to rebuild and not care about cap as much. But yeah, pipe dream.

If they trade either one of those guys just fold the franchise.

Not even for financial reasons, just out of sheer embarrassment.

 

[tiger_80]

Only thing missing is Koala behind the bench grinding his jaw.

Hopefully Celebrini can be what Makar was to the Avs.

They will find a way to draft Yakupov, Puljujaarvi or Broberg.

 

[bellagiobob]

Boys are playing the zone like a 5 man penalty kill. No pressure with a poor transition and easy zone entries for the other team. Tentative and unsure of themselves, confidence is shot.

Wrong system for the wrong players.

They lose vs Calgary it’s gonna get fugly.

Or the wrong teacher.

 

[Ibanez]

Ekholm?

Maybe? I certainly hope he would be one

Kulak, Desharnais and Ceci combined for 0 hits today. ZERO!!! This is PROFESSIONAL ICE HOCKEY!!!! HOW DO YOU HAVE NO HITS?????

What is WRONG with this team?

Yikes lol. Especially vd