Post-Game Talk: 2017 redux

[Kerberos]

And there it is.

Leadership, or lack thereof, is part of the problem in this organization.

 

[gordonhught]

Reid Wilkins and Rob Brown suck.

Well, what did they say?

 

[MessierII]

Draisaitl is a very good player too, but it's pretty obvious McDavid carries him pretty hard.

Draisaitl has been better than McDavid this year.

 

[bellagiobob]

They actually were the 2nd-best team in the NHL last season over the final 58 games.

Even more mind boggling. It’s like nearly every single returning player has regressed, has lost a step, and also lost their competitive spirit.

 

[Drivesaitl]

See ya next year? I’m signing there so my gal has options? I dont know. Just pissed at this point.

Drai is done hauling his ass for Woody two shoes. He's left so much on the ice the last couple years and as he stated last season was completely wasted. What he didn't say was because of coaching decisions but you can't really say that. But the teams actions speak loudly.

Basically its Foegele that has Woodys back at this point. The brown noser. Most players are laying down. Token efforts. When Holloway is your best forward its easy to tell what happening. Nuge wouldn't play a shift to save the coaches. That is speaking volumes.

 

[Soundwave]

Draisaitl has been better than McDavid this year.

And what's the record of the team?

So that's what the Oilers are when McDavid isn't playing like Gretzky.

All that tells you is this team isn't shit without 97.

Can't even go 5 or 6 games without him playing like Superman.

 

[Beerfish]

our big off season acquisition 0 goals, 0 assists -5

What an absolute dog player, Holland hoodwinked yet again,

 

[MessierII]

This really something. Last season, the Oilers were scoring about 1.25 goals per third period, by far the highest in the NHL. This season 0.14.

Everyone keeps banging on about the Oilers' defensive woes, but how about their lack of offense? They've scored 17 goals in 7 games, or 2.43 per game. Without the Nashville cakewalk, they'd be at 1.83 per game.

There seems to be a "perfect-shitstorm" of futility going on right now:
-- Rugged / Glue-players like Kostin / Yamamoto suddenly missed, having not been replaced.
-- New players (Brown, Erne) doing absolutely nothing
-- McDavid out
-- McLeod and Bouchard badly regressing
-- Nuge in his usual "I don't show up for first half of season" mode
-- Eckholm injured and slowed down
-- Draisaitl pissy
-- Coaching staff trying to implement new defensive system; players slow to adapt to it


I estimated that they would need to go at least 2-1-1 on the current homestand to stay in contention. So, now, they need to go 2-0-1 in the remaining three games.

I’ve been saying that all year. Everyone’s talking about the defense and it’s been bad but the offense has been just as bad. We should still be able to score goals.

 

[Cloned]

If they ever actually want to learn to be a solid defensive team and not just a one dimensional "wait for McDavid to do everything on the offense" squad, Sutter is the only person on this planet that can do it with what's here more or less.

Gallant ... he'll probably give them a jolt, sure, fine, but he'll likely run into the same fundamental problem every other Oilers coach has had ... the team has too many stupid players on defense who need to be re-taught everything from the ground floor, which most NHL coaches aren't used to doing, so they basically all just fall into the trap of relying on McMagic to put up enough Ws for a while.

Sutter is a good systems coach but the guy just destroys locker rooms. It’s not realistic here.

I will agree about the players.

In the interest of equal opportunity criticism: although much has been made of Woody switching the defensive schemes, if a NHL pro can’t competently adjust to and play a zone system (which I think is actually MORE common in the league than the man to man cover they played last season), then that’s on the player too.

 

[McOilers97]

Lost in all the criticism thus far:

Where the f*** is Ryan McLeod this season? 0 points, -3 and only 5 shots on net in 7 games.

The entire bottom 6 has been invisible, other than getting scored on, but he is the biggest disappointment of that group.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Draisaitl has been better than McDavid this year.

Draisaitl has been the best oiler any other time McDrai has been out. This time his heart doesn't seem in it, and I don't blame him. How many times and seasons do you gotta save a team? Drai piled in 52 goals again last year and another 13 in the playoffs. I'm sure both of McDrai are damn tired hauling a club around on their backs. I kept wondering when that would crack. its too much for two players.

 

[booyakasha]

Leadership, or lack thereof, is part of the problem in this organization.

They're great when they're the underdogs, but buckle when it's primetime.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Drai is done hauling his ass for Woody two shoes. He's left so much on the ice the last couple years and as he stated last season was completely wasted. What he didn't say was because of coaching decisions but you can't really say that. But the teams actions speak loudly.

Basically it’s Foegele that has Woodys back at this point. The brown noser. Most players are laying down. Token efforts. When Holloway is your best forward it’s easy to tell what happening. Nuge wouldn't play a shift to save the coaches. That is speaking volumes.

Holloway is such a nothing player. Pump and dump time. Throw him in the overflowing bin of failed Oiler prospects.

 

[Ibanez]

Reid Wilkins and Rob Brown suck.

Rob brown jars his farts to smell them later.

 

[Soundwave]

Sutter is a good systems coach but the guy just destroys locker rooms. It’s not realistic here.

I will agree about the players.

In the interest of equal opportunity criticism: although much has been made of Woody switching the defensive schemes, if a NHL pro can’t competently adjust to and play a zone system (which I think is actually MORE common in the league than the man to man cover they played last season), then that’s on the player too.

They're never going to win anything if they never learn how to be more than a 1 dimensional circus show that relies on McDavid to just drive offense.

You can't win a Cup that way.

So it's their risk to take, I'm just saying I think he's the only coach that can make this roster as is work.

Otherwise you have to hire a GM who knows what they're doing unlike the current bozo or the bozo before him to make massive trades immediately. And that's still going to be a problem even if you hire the best person available because they don't have much now, this organization was dumb enough to let these two waste year after year.

 

[McOilers97]

Even more mind boggling. It’s like nearly every single returning player has regressed, has lost a step, and also lost their competitive spirit.

I’m baffled by it. Did nobody do any f***ing strength and conditioning all off-season? It’s like half the roster aged 10 years in 5 months.

 

[Cloned]

Come on. Believe everything you read on the internet.

I didn’t believe 20/80

 

[McTonyBrar]

Well, what did they say?

Trying hard to defend the team pathetically.

But wow even Medi Chicken (Bob Stauffer) is concerned and confounded by this start

 

[Hemsky4pm2]

Brown's cobtract haunts us next year too, right? Greeeeaaaat.

 

[booyakasha]

And what's the record of the team?

So that's what the Oilers are when McDavid isn't playing like Gretzky.

All that tells you is this team isn't shit without 97.

Can't even go 5 or 6 games without him playing like Superman.

pretty sure the team was shit with 97.
or did we start the season 5 - 0 before he went down?

 

[Ibanez]

And there it is.

Who are the leaders in the room though? Honest question. Can’t be pouty pants drai (and I love drai).

His pissy pants can be seen every single night.

I see zero leaders in this room

 

[Drivesaitl]

Holloway is such a nothing player. Pump and dump time. Throw him in the overflowing bin of failed Oiler prospects.

Good thing you're not running prospect evaluation. Holy chicken little. Give the kid some time. he finally got a look at Drai tonight for two shifts and looked good. Coach been so busy giving the plum assignments to Foegele and Janmark.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Lost in all the criticism thus far:

Where the f*** is Ryan McLeod this season? 0 points, -3 and only 5 shots on net in 7 games.

The entire bottom 6 has been invisible, other than getting scored on, but he is the biggest disappointment of that group.

McLeod is busy avoiding physical contact like the plague. It’s pathetic.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Good thing you're not running prospect evaluation. Holy chicken little. Give the kid some time. he finally got a look at Drai tonight for two shifts and looked good. Coach been so busy giving the plum assignments to Foegele and Janmark.

He did zippo. If he needs Drai to look good (which he didn’t) then that says all we need to know about him.

 

[gordonhught]

Rebuild.

team is screwed. Keep McDavid if possible and unload the rest if possible. Stuck with Hyman, nuge and nurse.