2017 Offseason Thread: Changes Incoming 2.0

[Reclamation Project]

Maxine Waters obviously asked it.

 

[Stimpythecat]

Article discussing teams in cap hell.

Kings aren't in the top 5. Also the writer is still mentioning a $76 million cap but does his analysis off a $73 million cap.


http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...lackhawks-jets-devils-coyotes-vegas-carolina/

 

[Stimpythecat]

Article about cinderella teams. Kings got some love at 7 but no mention how they were the only 8th seeded team to beat the 1, 2, and 3 seeds in the same playoff year when no one else has beaten even the top two.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/goes-brown-13-best-nhl-cinderella-stories-time/

 

[kingsholygrail]

I disagree with their judgment of the Final quality between the Kings and Devils. The Devils were their own competing cinderella team coming out of the east. You essentially had two teams with no business being in the final playing in the final. If the Devils won, they would have made the list.

 

[BigKing]

I disagree with their judgment of the Final quality between the Kings and Devils. The Devils were their own competing cinderella team coming out of the east. You essentially had two teams with no business being in the final playing in the final. If the Devils won, they would have made the list.

While Games 1&2 went to OT and the Devils were the only team to last at least six games with the 2012 team, they still went down 3-0 to start the series. While we were definitely sweating it once they won Games 4&5, most everyone else in the hockey world had already handed the Cup to the Kings. The blow-out in Game 6 doesn't help anyone remember that the series was kind of close.

Toss in the Devils being synonymous with curing sleep disorders and the Kings being known as a "boring" team--even though they weren't in 2012--I can understand the claim being made now five years later.

2010 - First title for Chicago in decades when nobody was tired of them yet. Also beat a marquee franchise in Philly to do so. More buzz than 2012 for sure.

2011 - Canuck meltdown. 7 game series. Better than 2012.

2013 - Insane Game 6 win in Boston for Chicago's 2nd Cup. O6 teams.

2014 - Only five games but still better than 2012. More marquee names, Ranger factor added in.

2015 - Didn't really watch. Can't comment except for, well, Chicago being in it automatically makes it better, right?

2016 - Didn't watch much but the two teams play more "exciting" hockey than NJ/LA in 2012 and Crosby was in it so I guess it was better?

Of course, he gives low marks to the QoC under an incorrect theory that the Kings were so good that it didn't matter that they went through the 1,2,3 seeds to get there. You can also talk analytics in 2017 but you can't revise history and make it sound like everyone was picking LA from the 8-hole due to awesome CF%. That didn't become a big thing until wanting to explain the Kings dominance as opposed to predicting it.

I agree that Edmonton in '06 was more shocking due to simply getting past Detroit. I understand Calgary as well but they had a good amount of buzz heading into that playoffs as I remember laying $200 or so on them to take Game 1 in Vancouver (Pretty sure they lost Game 1 but they did take the series, obviously). Still though, a lot of revisionist history regarding the 2012 Kings...nobody was picking them to beat Vancouver even with the Sedin concussion.

 

[kingsboy11]

Kings hire Dave Lowry as an assistant coach. Lowry spent the last 5 years coaching the Victoria Royals in the WHL. Has been named 2 time WHL coach of the year. Has played under Darryl Sutter on 2 separate occasions in San Jose and Calgary. Dave's son Joel Lowry was drafted by the Kings in 2011 and currently playing with the Ontario Reign. Also was coaching current Kings prospect Chazz Redekopp.

 

[YP44]

Dave Lowry joins coaching staff...great hire. Was great with Hitmen for years

 

[BigKing]

RE: Lowry

Honest player and, ironically, fits the mold of the kind of player most everyone says LA has too many of. Good thing he is coaching.

Also interesting: stripped of the "C" in Calgary due to poor on-ice performance, much like a certain #23 on the current roster.

 

[Tricolore#20]

Good luck to Dave Lowry. This news probably doesn't make much news, but having watched the Victoria Royals closely over the last two seasons, I feel that he is a tremendous coach at that level, and will be missed. His teams were never the most talented, but worked extremely hard, and were incredibly aggressive and well conditioned. Hopefully we can have another coach in Victoria as good as Dave Lowry. Good luck.

 

[King'sPawn]

Good luck to Dave Lowry. This news probably doesn't make much news, but having watched the Victoria Royals closely over the last two seasons, I feel that he is a tremendous coach at that level, and will be missed. His teams were never the most talented, but worked extremely hard, and were incredibly aggressive and well conditioned. Hopefully we can have another coach in Victoria as good as Dave Lowry. Good luck.

Thank you for the feedback. It sounds a bit like he's a player's coach as well. Does that sound accurate?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Interesting note that Rosen included in his article about Lowry. Apparently Ulf Samuelsson is being strongly considered for the other vacant assistant role who will overlook the defensive assignments.

 

[Kingspiracy]

Interesting note that Rosen included in his article about Lowry. Apparently Ulf Samuelsson is being strongly considered for the other vacant assistant role who will overlook the defensive assignments.

Whose gonna be the new offensive wizz then? Feels like we've already got the explosives expert, knifeman and geeky tech kid sorted.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Whose gonna be the new offensive wizz then? Feels like we've already got the explosives expert, knifeman and geeky tech kid sorted.

Sounds like they're assembling the A-Team.

 

[Kingspiracy]

Sounds like they're assembling the A-Team.

We can only hope

 

[kingsfan28]

I disagree with their judgment of the Final quality between the Kings and Devils. The Devils were their own competing cinderella team coming out of the east. You essentially had two teams with no business being in the final playing in the final. If the Devils won, they would have made the list.

Disagree with this part too:

Final chapter: 9/10. They're the only team on this list that actually won the Stanley Cup. But the series, a six-game win over the Devils, probably stands as the worst final of the last decade.

 

[Stimpythecat]

 

[Reclamation Project]

Interesting note that Rosen included in his article about Lowry. Apparently Ulf Samuelsson is being strongly considered for the other vacant assistant role who will overlook the defensive assignments.

Love this! Look at this guy...

He'd kick Kopitar's ass the second he heard any talk of "none of us have to be great if we're all good" or pimp slap Doughty like an unruly hoe after his "the veterans need to step up" talk.

Those two give him so much as a lazy look and he'd jump the boards to set them straight. I bet he carries his suits around in a black duffel bag.

 

[Bandit]

Interesting note that Rosen included in his article about Lowry. Apparently Ulf Samuelsson is being strongly considered for the other vacant assistant role who will overlook the defensive assignments.

Well...at least he could show Brown how to ensure no knee is safe...

 

[King'sPawn]

Well...at least he could show Brown how to ensure no knee is safe...

Is Samuelsson the coach we kneed?

 

[deeshamrock]

Interesting note that Rosen included in his article about Lowry. Apparently Ulf Samuelsson is being strongly considered for the other vacant assistant role who will overlook the defensive assignments.

Currently the coach of the Hurricanes AHL team the CHeckers, prior to that recentliy he was the Asst' coach on the Rangers and a couple years as head coach of Modo in the Swedish League

And the Chicago Tribune reported last week he is the leading candidate for the Hawks Asst' coach position.

Loved him as a Flyer and has a pretty good rep as a coach. Good guy.

 

[deeshamrock]

From what I read/heard last night, the indications are it will be flat. ANd how does that escalator affect the players salaries-


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-players-set-aside-15-5-of-salary-in-escrow-1.590263

This article explains what happens

Last yr the NHL set the escrow withholding rate at 15.5%, set aside until the 2016/17 season is over and all of the revenue is in. They are supposed to get some back. Based on past history, that's unlikely to happen.

[In the fall of 2015], the NHL’s players received a refund of just a 2.05 per cent on the 15 per cent that was withheld bi-weekly during the 2014-15 season. In other words, players were paid 87.05 per cent of the salaries listed on their contract. Federal, state and local taxes, as well as agent’s fees, are then taken from that 87.05 per cent of their published salaries.

Carolina has almost 28M in cap space...granted they'll have to save some for a bunch of deals next summer but that's still pretty good.

 

[KINGS17]

From what I read/heard last night, the indications are it will be flat. ANd how does that escalator affect the players salaries-


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl-players-set-aside-15-5-of-salary-in-escrow-1.590263

This article explains what happens

Last yr the NHL set the escrow withholding rate at 15.5%, set aside until the 2016/17 season is over and all of the revenue is in. They are supposed to get some back. Based on past history, that's unlikely to happen.




Carolina has almost 28M in cap space...granted they'll have to save some for a bunch of deals next summer but that's still pretty good.

Thanks for finding this Dee. Also from the article:

The argument is always double edged since no increase means job losses for higher-paid veterans in the system.

Nothing wrong with this at all in my opinion. For the rank-and-file, non-"superstar" player the invocation of the escalator clause is a bad idea. Actually, a bad idea for any player who already has a contract.

 

[KINGS17]

Love this! Look at this guy...

He'd kick Kopitar's ass the second he heard any talk of "none of us have to be great if we're all good" or pimp slap Doughty like an unruly hoe after his "the veterans need to step up" talk.

Those two give him so much as a lazy look and he'd jump the boards to set them straight. I bet he carries his suits around in a black duffel bag.

Maybe Ulf can make practice more fun.

 

[kovacro]

Currently the coach of the Hurricanes AHL team the CHeckers, prior to that recentliy he was the Asst' coach on the Rangers and a couple years as head coach of Modo in the Swedish League

And the Chicago Tribune reported last week he is the leading candidate for the Hawks Asst' coach position.

Loved him as a Flyer and has a pretty good rep as a coach. Good guy.

Meh, I will always remember him as a Hartford Whaler.

Love those unis and they were even better in the 80's with the Cooperalls.

 

[Kingspiracy]

Love this! Look at this guy...

He'd kick Kopitar's ass the second he heard any talk of "none of us have to be great if we're all good" or pimp slap Doughty like an unruly hoe after his "the veterans need to step up" talk.

Those two give him so much as a lazy look and he'd jump the boards to set them straight. I bet he carries his suits around in a black duffel bag.

He looks like a baddie in a karate kid movie