Salary Cap: 2017-18 Roster Building Thread V | Contract/FA charts in Post #1 | CAP SET at $75M

[Peat]

Sheary? Aston-Reese? Di Pauli? Prow?

I don't think anyone was hankering after Sheary. We didn't even sign the guy to a full contract at first.

 

[SHOOTANDSCORE]

Yakkity yak. Don't talk about Yak.










Dad jokes. I got 'em by the metric ton.

I would just love to keep Sprong. I think the kid is going to be a frickin' stud. I see so much potential and he's dominating where he should be dominating. I just want to see him on a Sully driven team. And he will keep the cost low for when we lose one of Sheary/Rust/Jake (Please no Jake/Rust) down the road.

I agree. I had a feeling about him before he had a monster year. Now I'd be heading the the bridge if we moved him.

I really like his attitude and what he said about learning to use defense to create offense.

And if we strike out in free agency?

We have all year to upgrade, including a deadline rental if need be.

Prow was a Hobey Baker finalist iirc. Maybe not projected to do huge amounts, but still a decent punt. And Bengtsson had a small amount of hype.

I'd like us to do better but... we're not doing bad.

Also, Plotnikov may have been a consolation prize but he was well thought of. DiPauli wasn't chopped liver either.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Heard Bones was visiting Montreal tomorrow

If I see him, I'll tell him Andy says hi.

No clue how legit this source is but he's probably referring to this.

It is legit. It is the web off-shoot of the biggest tabloid newspaper in the province, Le Journal de Montreal. Owned by Quebecor/Videotron, the people who want to bring the Nordiques back.

I didn't say I need it now. Just saying a hockey trade candidate is Sheary.

You know, Sheary is rather maddening to watch perform night after night. At least, to me. He frustrates the hell out of me when I watch him go into the corners, because he will win maybe 1 out of every 9 or 10 battles.

But, I don't think he will make more than Hagelin is making on Sheary's next contract.

Therefore, I'd rather deal Hagelin before Sheary.

 

[Andy99]

Bonino visiting Montreal makes a lot of sense. They need centers desperately

They need a "first" center. If they're looking at him, things are really bad and expect him to get vastly overpaid...like $5mil overpaid

 

[Empoleon8771]

I don't see why the Penguins have to trade a guy of the caliber of Sheary to fix the 3C spot. You could get an decent young 3C by trading Wilson probably, and Wilson's a guy that is much more easily replaced than Sheary IMO. I mentioned Dallas with Shore in the past, but that can be applied to many teams. Looking at it quickly, I think Calgary (especially if Jankowski makes the NHL team next year), Buffalo and Montreal (Daneault is an intriguing option) are other teams that could entertain the idea of swapping a center for a winger.

Daneault is a really intriguing option, but I can't imagine the Habs would trade him. Although I don't think their issue is bottom-6 centers, I think it's top-6 centers.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

They need a "first" center. If they're looking at him, things are really bad and expect him to get vastly overpaid...like $5mil overpaid

They need two centers, really. Plekanec looked done by the end of last season, though I have to admit he seemed to have something left in the world championships. Danault is ideally a 3C, like Bonino. Bonino has more offense in him than Danault, though, and probably more than Plekanec these days. And, of course, they don't like Galchenyuk at center.

It is very bleak. If Bonino has any interest in playing for the Habs, I think that deal could be done quickly.

 

[SweetStache]

I just like taking free prospects everyone else wants.

Well that's the thing isn't it? If everyone wants them then they literally have 30 other options, those aren't very good odds. My point being, Pens land their share, especially for a small market/non-destination city.

 

[Andy99]

Speaking of Bones, GMJR said this when asked: "he is our priority. We'll talk with his agent and see where he is at. If he is not ready to do something, then we will look elsewhere. There will be other options available to us."


On will he go after a Dmen in free agency?; "well that all depends what happens with Daley.".

This is what I fear. He's just waits on these guys and then by the time he hears no, other free agents we might like have been signed because he he doesn't want to commit while he's "waiting." Get on plan B and C right now JR!

 

[Empoleon8771]

Speaking of Bones, GMJR said this when asked: "he is our priority. We'll talk with his agent and see where he is at. If he is not ready to do something, then we will look elsewhere. There will be other options available to us."


On will he go after a Dmen in free agency?; "well that all depends what happens with Daley.".

Am I the only one that cringes at the idea of bringing Daley back? I can't imagine he'd take a pay cut and I imagine he'd want a multi year deal. The Penguins really shouldn't want him back with his injury issues on a multi year deal at $3.3 million or more.

 

[Andy99]

Am I the only one that cringes at the idea of bringing Daley back? I can't imagine he'd take a pay cut and I imagine he'd want a multi year deal. The Penguins really shouldn't want him back with his injury issues on a multi year deal at $3.3 million or more.

No. I don't want to bring back anyone over 30 except Cullen. Ideally, we should be signing young and unproven but promising, or trading for better, young vets that we are going to have to sink some money in, like Duchene. Also would like the Pens to check out Demers, who appears to be on the block...

 

[Speaking Moistly]

Am I the only one that cringes at the idea of bringing Daley back? I can't imagine he'd take a pay cut and I imagine he'd want a multi year deal. The Penguins really shouldn't want him back with his injury issues on a multi year deal at $3.3 million or more.

No, those lower body injuries, his age and what he's probably looking for a deterrents.

 

[Peat]

Am I the only one that cringes at the idea of bringing Daley back? I can't imagine he'd take a pay cut and I imagine he'd want a multi year deal. The Penguins really shouldn't want him back with his injury issues on a multi year deal at $3.3 million or more.

Far from it. My interest extends to him offering the mother of all sweetheart one year deals.

 

[Nakawick]

Our goalies outplayed the other teams goalies in 3 out of 4 series and the series with Ottawa was probably even. We were outplayed for significant stretches in the first 4 games against Nashville and MAF is the reason we made it past the Caps. Bobrovky **** the bed in round one. We were clearly a worn down and tired team last year after playing so much hockey and fatigue leads to injuries.

Bones actually in Montreal and not just off hand chatter with them makes me believe they are close to signing. The only other reason Bones has to be in Montreal is to visit Tanger. Bergevin intends on signing him.

JR saying Bones is his first priority is not entirely true, a good center is his first priority. JR is in no way going into next year with junk or unproven 3 and 4 C's. Center depth is crucial to this team. We are not going to run Sid and Geno into the ground and if they need rest or to miss some time they will get it. Thinking we will just plug in some unproven kid and/or hand out a bad contract to a mediocre player is stupid and lazy IMO. They moved Sundqvist because they didn't trust him at 4C and we have too many wingers.

We don't have to go big on D, at least right now.
Dumo Letang
Maatta Schultz
Cole Rhuwedel
Poo Corrado

I think we will pick up a depth guy at some point, but if we are going into the season with unproven players it will be up to a few guys on the back end to sink or swim.

We have Sid, Geno, Rowney, Bluegers, Simon, Tiffels. The depth chart is changing, two centers are being added. We don't have any terrible contracts on the team, I hope to hell it stays that way.

 

[OnMyOwn]

So nhl.com listed the top wings available and possible landing spots. We were mentioned for 2. Chris Kunitz and.....Jerome Iginla.

Now I don't honestly think a 40 year old iggy has a place here, due to our plethora of RW and his decline, but him as a 3rd/4th liner with some skill would be intriguing. Him on a 4th line with reaves would be fun, but I doubt reaves plays LW much.

Anyway, not gonna happen but figured I'd mention it if it wasn't already.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Am I the only one that cringes at the idea of bringing Daley back? I can't imagine he'd take a pay cut and I imagine he'd want a multi year deal. The Penguins really shouldn't want him back with his injury issues on a multi year deal at $3.3 million or more.

Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think we should add a depth guy to round out the top 9 defense, mostly to cover for Letang at the start of the season, but Daley has probably earned himself more than 'depth defenseman' money.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

So nhl.com listed the top wings available and possible landing spots. We were mentioned for 2. Chris Kunitz and.....Jerome Iginla.

Now I don't honestly think a 40 year old iggy has a place here, due to our plethora of RW and his decline, but him as a 3rd/4th liner with some skill would be intriguing. Him on a 4th line with reaves would be fun, but I doubt reaves plays LW much.

Anyway, not gonna happen but figured I'd mention it if it wasn't already.

Iginla is one of my favorite players of all time...yeah, no.

I doubt JR has more than casual interest in retaining Kunitz.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I'd sooner re-sign Kunitz and play him with Crosby for 82 games than sign Iginla and play him in any way.

 

[pistolpete11]

So nhl.com listed the top wings available and possible landing spots. We were mentioned for 2. Chris Kunitz and.....Jerome Iginla.

Now I don't honestly think a 40 year old iggy has a place here, due to our plethora of RW and his decline, but him as a 3rd/4th liner with some skill would be intriguing. Him on a 4th line with reaves would be fun, but I doubt reaves plays LW much.

Anyway, not gonna happen but figured I'd mention it if it wasn't already.

Iginla can play LW.

 

[Terrapin]

It just seems that in order to get a decent center, a wing will have to be moved. And Hagelin would make the most sense from a salary perspective.

 

[clefty]

So nhl.com listed the top wings available and possible landing spots. We were mentioned for 2. Chris Kunitz and.....Jerome Iginla.

Now I don't honestly think a 40 year old iggy has a place here, due to our plethora of RW and his decline, but him as a 3rd/4th liner with some skill would be intriguing. Him on a 4th line with reaves would be fun, but I doubt reaves plays LW much.

Anyway, not gonna happen but figured I'd mention it if it wasn't already.

His lack of speed stood out when we were slow as hell. I can't imagine what he'd look like now in this group four years older down the line.

 

[Empoleon8771]

It just seems that in order to get a decent center, a wing will have to be moved. And Hagelin would make the most sense from a salary perspective.

But the issue is who would give up anything of significant value for Hagelin? Just dumping him is pointless when he has had the success he has had in the past.

 

[Andy99]

An upgrade at 3C is necessary. If you don't want the team to take on a bad contract, then there's only one option: a trade. To make a trade, they have to give up assets. Other than draft picks, the only asset they have are young wingers and maybe Maatta depending on how teams value him. No one is going to pay anything to take on Hagelin's overpaid contract. If fact we'd probably have to ship him to a low cap team like Arizona for peanuts to get him off our hands or package him with someone else. Those who are suggesting he should go first are mistaken. He's not worth much. I (along with Ryan Wilson among others) would make my first call to Colorado if I were JR. But he absolutely has to be working the trade route unless he wants to be paying a bad contract for much longer to someone who's not as good

 

[Terrapin]

But the issue is who would give up anything of significant value for Hagelin? Just dumping him is pointless when he has had the success he has had in the past.

I agree, I'm talking as more of a salary dump to sign Bones or someone.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I agree, I'm talking as more of a salary dump to sign Bones or someone.

The Penguins don't need to dump salary to re-sign Bonino, though. The issue with re-signing Bonino at what prices he'd get in free agency is that his contract extension will be crippling down the line, not right now. If he would sign a 2 year deal at $4.5 million, I'd be fine with bringing him back even though he's over a million overpaid. The issue is that he'll want like 5 years.

 

[Terrapin]

The Penguins don't need to dump salary to re-sign Bonino, though. The issue with re-signing Bonino at what prices he'd get in free agency is that his contract extension will be crippling down the line, not right now. If he would sign a 2 year deal at $4.5 million, I'd be fine with bringing him back even though he's over a million overpaid. The issue is that he'll want like 5 years.

Well that sucks.

I'm still getting a kick out of the local media pushing the Kane trade talks. Cause we need another winger, apparently.