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Faulk is younger than Muzzin and Martinez, and he's right handed.

Muzzin+ for Faulk and Jdub ??

Maybe Dowd, brodz or a 4th

Muzzin+Shore would probably get the job done.

Kings will not be trading away Toffoli.Try Muzzin/Martinez a pick and a prospect.If their lucky they can include Gabby in the deal.

Carolina isn't a bad team. How do any of those do anything for them?
 

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Maybe Toffoli + for Faulk + Williams

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Faulk is younger than Muzzin and Martinez, and he's right handed.


Carolina isn't a bad team. How do any of those do anything for them?

Carolina also is looking for young scoring rather than a veteran LHD as well

At LHD they already have Slavin and Hanifin, with Fleury and Dahlbeck coming as well. Then Pesce, Faulk, TVR. Muzzin doesn't do anything for them but upset the balance especially if they're losing Faulk.
 
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Toffoli would be untouchable if that's the terrible package Faulk + Williams.Gotta add to lose TT imo.
 

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Canadiens trade P.K Subban who was 27 years old to Predators for Shea Weber who was 31 years old.

Speaking of which, also not a November trade.

Is Faulk being run out of Carolina? Just because Bergevin did something, doesn't mean Francis will do the same thing. And, not that it's the be-all-end-all, but both Subban and Weber are right handed.
 

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Speaking of which, also not a November trade.

Is Faulk being run out of Carolina? Just because Bergevin did something, doesn't mean Francis will do the same thing. And, not that it's the be-all-end-all, but both Subban and Weber are right handed.

Just stop,you were proven wrong and now trying to save face by nic picking the comments/trade.
 

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A good trade as I posted yesterday would be another Greene Stoll type trade.It would add to the defense and help on the offense side of the puck.Yes I know that trade happened in June during the off season before someone chimes in lol
 

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Lol excuses, you were proven wrong and now trying to save face by nic picking the comments.Glorious

Proven? Wrong about what? So because one trade involved a younger player being traded for an older player, involving two completely different GM's and teams, that means every trade has to be done that way? I can flip the Subban/Weber trade around, and prove that Carolina shouldn't make a Faulk for Muzzin trade. At least Montreal could slide Weber into Subban's spot on the ice. Carolina couldn't.

A good trade as I posted yesterday would be another Greene Stoll type trade.It would add to the defense and help on the offense side of the puck.

That trade happened at the draft, not in November. Name the players that take the place of Visnovsky, Stoll, and Greene today. Sure, another trade like that would be great. Name some names though. How does the cap work? Does the other team want to trade those guys? Do they want whoever the Kings would trade?
 

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A good trade as I posted yesterday would be another Greene Stoll type trade.It would add to the defense and help on the offense side of the puck.Yes I know that trade happened in June during the off season before someone chimes in lol

Yeah but you never posted what that trade would be. You have zero problem trying to criticize everyone trying to make sense of what you're saying, but you never actually make a full proposal yourself. Why don't you give it a try since you seem to know something everyone else doesn't?
 
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Muzzin+ for Faulk and Jdub ??


No, Canes wouldn't do that. Faulk is being shopped because the Canes are that deep in talented young d, both on the club and on the farm. And what they don't have and desperately need and have been shopping (faulk ) for is a #1 C.
And he's the blue chip that can possibly be packed to get them one.
 

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interesting take from the mayor here FREE REPLAY: Hoven Talks Kings Good, Bad, Ugly (and Trade Rumor) on NHL Network Radio Saying we were interest in Chara in the summer

THanks for providing the link

I don't agree with the Mayor's take on Blake 'in it to win now' and not planning for the future. Is contradicts what Futa said recently regarding trading to replace what was lost in Carter , he said (and I heard the conviction in his voice) that 'no' they aren't looking to trade and will shop in house for young players to fill that role.
So I don't agree with the Mayor that Blake is going to make trade(s) this year because the Kings 'have to win' and his job is on the line.

This team is not a contender and doesn't have the depth on the roster to make the changes that would vault them into that category. And trading youth and picks for that 'difference maker/vet' player rarely works. And if anything, it's why Blake and Luc are in that office, because of DL's bad decisions.
BEst way to pave the path to success it thru the draft. A process they started last year and will continue to replant the barren garden.

And watching KYle Conner the other night, I kept thinking, 'you're wearing the wrong colors'
 

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You keep bringing up trades that didn't happen in November. Keep hoping a GM can do what GM's can't do much of these days.
Its got to feel lonely in your head hearing talking points that didn't happen or were ever mentioned.Keep trying to save face bud.Keep digging out lol.
 

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Proven? Wrong about what? So because one trade involved a younger player being traded for an older player, involving two completely different GM's and teams, that means every trade has to be done that way? I can flip the Subban/Weber trade around, and prove that Carolina shouldn't make a Faulk for Muzzin trade. At least Montreal could slide Weber into Subban's spot on the ice. Carolina couldn't.



That trade happened at the draft, not in November. Name the players that take the place of Visnovsky, Stoll, and Greene today. Sure, another trade like that would be great. Name some names though. How does the cap work? Does the other team want to trade those guys? Do they want whoever the Kings would trade?

Martinez for Bjugstad + Petrovic
 

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Yeah but you never posted what that trade would be. You have zero problem trying to criticize everyone trying to make sense of what you're saying, but you never actually make a full proposal yourself. Why don't you give it a try since you seem to know something everyone else doesn't?
Unfortunately bossman i'm not being paid or in charge of negotiating trades for the Kings to give you a in depth idea.I can only observe and point out the holes I see and others have spotted on the roster for nearly three years now.I gave you a idea of the type of move (Greene/Stoll) type trade that could patch two holes on this roster.I got no time to go thru 30 teams rosters matching their needs to players.You seem to be yearning players names for trades.Maybe you can take that curiosity and match some names of players to the type of numbers Stoll and Greene put up lol
 
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Martinez for Bjugstad + Petrovic

Martinez is good enough to bring in two players? Why do people say he's unable to handle more ice time then? Visnovsky had more points in the 3 years prior to going to Edmonton than Martinez has in his whole career.

It's always funny when guys like Muzzin and/or Martinez are the key to getting the missing players they need. We endlessly complain about Muzzin, and Martinez can't handle a larger role, but other teams will give a bunch of stuff for them.
 
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