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deaderhead28 said:
You lose speed by putting Gabs on the first line.Iafallo isn't a third line winger.The solution is the suck it up and go get your scoring winger.The core is getting older.Lombardi dumpster diving for Mitchell or Jokinen isn't even a solution, it's a joke.Got to give to get and get over it.
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Lombardi trading away youth for quick fixes is exactly why the core is getting older.
 
KingCanadain1976 said:
Folin is not ready for Muzzins minutes He can't handle more then 15 mins. Also you have martinez on the left side after years of playing right side only. This defense would be horrible.
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Muzzin can't handle Muzzin's minutes for the last 104 games.

KingsOfCali25 said:
Mitchell will take the 4th line center spit moving Andreoff out of the line up...

Iafallo--Kopitar--Brown
Pearson--Kempe--Toffoli
Gaborik--Shore--Brodzinski
Jokinen--Mitchell--Lewis

Just don't know where Carter will go.
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I'm guessing he could force his way into that lineup somehow. Not that it matters. He's months away, and someone else will probably get hurt between now and then.
 
deaderhead28 said:
You lose speed by putting Gabs on the first line.Iafallo isn't a third line winger.The solution is the suck it up and go get your scoring winger.The core is getting older.Lombardi dumpster diving for Mitchell or Jokinen isn't even a solution, it's a joke.Got to give to get and get over it.
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You need a second team willing to make a trade. Outside of Duchene, where Ottawa traded another center of equal value that wasn't going to re-sign, every trade early in the season is a dumpster dive. It's all picking around the edges. What scoring winger do you expect Blake to get?
 
Unpopular opinion: we're not even actually short on scoring forwards unless you're going for an absolutely overwhelming offense. Frankly I think the play in our own zone is a bigger concern now and leading to those self-inflicted wounds that are leading to low scoring because we can't get the puck out quickly and effectively.

The 'scoring' problem is that guys like Pearson haven't gotten going--but you're not going to find a better player via trade. Have to get his engine going amongst pretty much everyone not named Kopitar-Brown-Toffoli (Iafallo to a degree).
 
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KingsFan7824 said:
You need a second team willing to make a trade. Outside of Duchene, where Ottawa traded another center of equal value that wasn't going to re-sign, every trade early in the season is a dumpster dive. It's all picking around the edges. What scoring winger do you expect Blake to get?
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No idea what people are complaining about. Teams are likely to get boned for decent players. That's why you don't really see trades until later in the season.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Unpopular opinion: we're not even actually short on scoring forwards unless you're going for an absolutely overwhelming offense. Frankly I think the play in our own zone is a bigger concern now and leading to those self-inflicted wounds that are leading to low scoring because we can't get the puck out quickly and effectively.

The 'scoring' problem is that guys like Pearson haven't gotten going--but you're not going to find a better player via trade. Have to get his engine going amongst pretty much everyone not named Kopitar-Brown-Toffoli (Iafallo to a degree).
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I tend to agree. The Kings are thin on the blue line and the new system is leaving the kids somewhat exposed.

As damacles and myself have mentioned, opponents are using a strong forecheck against the Kings defensemen and forcing a lot of turnovers at the Kings blue line.
 
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It could be that teams have figured out how to play us now after the hot start, but It did seem that our problems coincided with Carts injury didn't it? Kempe masked the problem with his hot start at 2c, yet to me it seems that we lack the firepower to keep teams honest. If you are relying on trevor lewis to score the game winner you are in trouble (not a knock on Lewis, I love what he brings to the table)

The D hasn't really changed much from the start of the season has it?

We also don't seem to have that roll you're sleeves up work ethic going on that we did in the past (not a recent thing)
 
Kingspiracy said:
It could be that teams have figured out how to play us now after the hot start, but It did seem that our problems coincided with Carts injury didn't it? Kempe masked the problem with his hot start at 2c, yet to me it seems that we lack the firepower to keep teams honest. If you are relying on trevor lewis to score the game winner you are in trouble (not a knock on Lewis, I love what he brings to the table)

The D hasn't really changed much from the start of the season has it?

We also don't seem to have that roll you're sleeves up work ethic going on that we did in the past (not a recent thing)
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I think the simple truth is the Kings lack depth in all areas.
 
Kane has been rumored here for a while so I wouldn't be shocked I'm just not sure what he brings that we don't already have that would justify the reasonably high price tag vs. giving up more futures. Good for depth I guess but I don't see it as an earthshaking move and one that wouldn't likely justify the cost.

But to be fair I'm low on Kane, I just think he totally has bricks for brains. Great physical tools, though.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Kane has been rumored here for a while so I wouldn't be shocked I'm just not sure what he brings that we don't already have that would justify the reasonably high price tag vs. giving up more futures. Good for depth I guess but I don't see it as an earthshaking move and one that wouldn't likely justify the cost.

But to be fair I'm low on Kane, I just think he totally has bricks for brains. Great physical tools, though.
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One thing he has is 8 ES goals to the 9 that Brown, Pearson, and Iafallo have combined for.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
You need a second team willing to make a trade. Outside of Duchene, where Ottawa traded another center of equal value that wasn't going to re-sign, every trade early in the season is a dumpster dive. It's all picking around the edges. What scoring winger do you expect Blake to get?
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Thanks for being civilized on your response.Why not try to pick up a player much like Justin Williams?A guy who puts the puck in the net a avg of 18 times a year and has good assist numbers.Don't need a allstar winger which would cost a ton.
 
Sol said:
No idea what people are complaining about. Teams are likely to get boned for decent players. That's why you don't really see trades until later in the season.
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Complaining? Lol! It's always complaining on here when you state a fact of this teams weakness and saying it for nearly three years and all the chicken lil calling attacks come out like clock work.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Unpopular opinion: we're not even actually short on scoring forwards unless you're going for an absolutely overwhelming offense. Frankly I think the play in our own zone is a bigger concern now and leading to those self-inflicted wounds that are leading to low scoring because we can't get the puck out quickly and effectively.

The 'scoring' problem is that guys like Pearson haven't gotten going--but you're not going to find a better player via trade. Have to get his engine going amongst pretty much everyone not named Kopitar-Brown-Toffoli (Iafallo to a degree).
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Yeah the defensive zone breakouts is from where most of our problems stem. I want to have a peek at LaDue or explore trade options on the blueline. Unpopular suggestion: Kris Russel from an Oilers team desperate for wingers. Maybe they want Gaborik?

I have no idea if the moves will be worthwhile ones, Blake is still earning my trust, but I like that he isnt afraid of attempting to tweak the team.
 
deaderhead28 said:
Thanks for being civilized on your response.Why not try to pick up a player much like Justin Williams?A guy who puts the puck in the net a avg of 18 times a year and has good assist numbers.Don't need a allstar winger which would cost a ton.
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Why would Carolina give up a top-six winger (edit: middle-six) early in the season, though? And is he really significantly better than what we're rolling out vs. the assets we'd give up?

We're kind of back in the same situation as last year--Gm's hands are tied a bit. Do you really mortgage MORE future to get a mediocre upgrade? I'm not convinced there's an asset out there that makes us better at this point. Have to see what we truly have before evaluating that IMO.
 
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Ollie Weeks said:
Yeah the defensive zone breakouts is from where most of our problems stem. I want to have a peek at LaDue or explore trade options on the blueline. Unpopular suggestion: Kris Russel from an Oilers team desperate for wingers. Maybe they want Gaborik?

I have no idea if the moves will be worthwhile ones, Blake is still earning my trust, but I like that he isnt afraid of attempting to tweak the team.
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I LOVE that Blake is working youngsters in and out of the lineup. It's just more that we have to have too many of them in right now with the injuries, which is why the Jokinen and Mitchell moves make a lot of sense to me. His thought process is very clear. Especially considering what he walked into.

I too am a little shocked we havent seen LaDue but I guess we wouldn't have enough beef in the lineup? not sure.
 
deaderhead28 said:
Thanks for being civilized on your response.Why not try to pick up a player much like Justin Williams?A guy who puts the puck in the net a avg of 18 times a year and has good assist numbers.Don't need a allstar winger which would cost a ton.
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Probably because most teams that have a Williams type player are in the thick of the playoff race. Right now Carolina is 7th in points% in the East. Buffalo, Florida, Montreal, Arizona, these teams don't really have a Williams type. You'd have to pay for Kane, or Pacioretty, or whoever.

Raccoon Jesus said:
I LOVE that Blake is working youngsters in and out of the lineup. It's just more that we have to have too many of them in right now with the injuries, which is why the Jokinen and Mitchell moves make a lot of sense to me. His thought process is very clear. Especially considering what he walked into.

I too am a little shocked we havent seen LaDue but I guess we wouldn't have enough beef in the lineup? not sure.
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The beef that is in the lineup doesn't even play on the PK.

MacD has more time on the PP than the PK. Crazy stat.
 
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Think I'd agree with the idea of a upgrading the defense. I think the forwards will sort itself out once everyone gets healthy and Carter gets back (albeit months away). But with the new system being more risk oriented, I think it would be wise to upgrade on defense and secure another defenseman to solidify it. But I agree with RJ in that I don't think there is a defenseman out there that is available without giving up major futures.
 
deaderhead28 said:
Complaining? Lol! It's always complaining on here when you state a fact of this teams weakness and saying it for nearly three years and all the chicken lil calling attacks come out like clock work.
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That's not what I mean, my point is everyone expects big trades all the time even when it's inopportune to do so.

Small trades do not mean that a team isn't willing to go for a big one. It's more so about there being something available and reasonable.

I see people complaining about small trades and unlikely fixes.
 
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