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KingsHockey24 said:
Mike Richards was my favorite non King before we traded for him. Honestly he'd probably had last longer if Sutter gave him PP time; for whatever reason he thought Stoll was a better option.
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highly doubt pp time would have helped an oxy-dependent player who was not getting the proper treatment for his injuries which led to said dependence of such drugs.
 
Booba said:
Is Campbell now officially the backup or will the Kings explore other options before the TDL?
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Yeah. During the pre-game show on 790, Blake said that Campbell is the backup. Interestingly, Blake also suggested that LaDue, Kempe, Brodzinski and I believe Amadio are part of the future when giving examples of where the team is headed. His comments suggested to me that they are not on the move at this moment. I think Blake will unload other bottom 6 players for picks. Log jam and redundancies at the moment.
 
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KingsHockey24 said:
Mike Richards was my favorite non King before we traded for him. Honestly he'd probably had last longer if Sutter gave him PP time; for whatever reason he thought Stoll was a better option.
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Richards was never the same player after the summer of 2009. He had 2 shoulder surgeries that summer. Having had torn both shoulders on the same play I can say with great certainty Richards waited too long to have the 1st surgery, had the surgeries too close together and rushed coming back. Regardless of the pain killers, of which you get allot before the surgeries and after. No matter who you are you lose a bit, and to lose a bit in both shoulders, it isn't additive, it multiplies. And if he played allot with the tears/injuries for a while he probably got more than a few cortisone shots, which also damage with each one. I got 4 in the left and 3 in the right between tears and the first surgery.

I lost quite a bit of accuracy and pace on my shot, flexibility is gone, so further hits that used to be of little consequence, now hurt because of limited range. I was a habitual 300+ yard driver, now it's maybe 250 if the wind is behind me downhill with a bounce off the cart path. You lose a ton of rotation and strength. The shoulders were never the same and it's frustrating.

My 2 surgeries were 6 months apart, which my surgeon said was the quickest you could have them together. Richards squeezed his together in about 4 months.

IMO the pain killers were probably the undoing of Richards, but it was the injured shoulders and him playing with them rather than opting for surgery right away is what brought his career to an early end. Had he opted for surgery when he felt the first pain in camp of 2008, he's done for that season. He probably doesn't need the injections and pills to continue to play for an entire season. And having tried to play thru torn shoulders, I can tell you they only get worse.

Richards would have had much better chance at a better recovery because he misses all of 2008-2009 and has more than enough time to recover before the grind of the following season and doesn't make them worse. I have 100% belief that he came back too early and his shoulders never fully recovered and he abused pills to deal with the pain.
 
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AlphaBravo said:
Yeah. During the pre-game show on 790, Blake said that Campbell is the backup. Interestingly, Blake also suggested that LaDue, Kempe, Brodzinski and I believe Amadio are part of the future when giving examples of where the team is headed. His comments suggested to me that they are not on the move at this moment. I think Blake will unload other bottom 6 players for picks. Log jam and redundancies at the moment.
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No surprise RE: the young guys being part of the future as opposed to being moved.

With the veteran contracts this team has and the upcoming Doughty blockbuster, they are going to need a lot of younger cost-controlled guys.
 
KingsHockey24 said:
Mike Richards was my favorite non King before we traded for him. Honestly he'd probably had last longer if Sutter gave him PP time; for whatever reason he thought Stoll was a better option.
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Yes it was Sutter who ended Richards career and not Bolland and medications.

I always liked Stoll on the point on the PP he had a good shot. Also was great at faceoffs.
 
Expectations for the first few games of Carter should be pretty low. He'd be an upgrade on the faceoff dot, if nothing else.
 
Ollie Weeks said:
Expectations for the first few games of Carter should be pretty low. He'd be an upgrade on the faceoff dot, if nothing else.
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I think he will come out like lightening in a bottle. I wouldn't be surprised if he scored a goal. Carter is physical fit, and a veteran. I think he will slide right in after a few shifts.
 
I really think Kane will put this team over the top. He will bring hunger and energy , he will be motivated and excited to play meaningful hockey and is fast skilled and plays rough . I know he's a head case but maybe he can be slapped into reality here . He would be the ideal and perfect player on Kopis left side . If not though I see this as our lineup .

Seems like Lewis is going to be out longer than expected . Lines in practice today were

Reider-Kopitar-Brown
Pearson-Carter-Toffoli
Iaffalo-Kempe-Amadio
Clifford-Thompson-Brodzinski

Once Lewis returns Brodzinski is out and Amadio moves down with Lewis going to the right of Kempe.
 
I'd leave if alone at the deadline, but consider in July offering Kane a 1 year deal at high value, basically whatever we could afford at the time. Riskier move for the player, but there's always the chance he chases the quick money and then goes for longer term next time around. And he's off the books in time for Doughty.
 
johnjm22 said:
Carter was always underrated. Richards was always overrated.

Even when Carter was scoring 40 goals, he wasn't held in high regards relative to what he was doing.

The type of player Mike Richards was is the exact type that people in hockey love. This archetype is loved so much that we can't help but become infatuated with players that fit it and we tend to overate them. We can't help ourselves.
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I was going to say I generally disagree, but I kind of agree. I think some in the east over-romanticized Richards because of "the shift," but man did he ever live up to the billing 9 times out of 10. Dude was all the intangibles everyone wants to say Toews has. I think his career gets downplayed a bit because of how he fizzled out. And I do think Carter was relatively overlooked because back then he was looked at as soft and a choker. But Richards earned his rep for the most part, he was absolutely ferocious for his size and it rubbed off. That hit up ice on Burrows is probably a good example of what you're talking about but I can't not be a believer in that.

We really had some absolute monsters on our team and all the grit and character in the world. What a murderer's row people had to face when they faced us. Our 60 point winger was the best hitter in the game. Even our skill guys were killers for the most part.
 
Ollie Weeks said:
I'd leave if alone at the deadline, but consider in July offering Kane a 1 year deal at high value, basically whatever we could afford at the time. Riskier move for the player, but there's always the chance he chases the quick money and then goes for longer term next time around. And he's off the books in time for Doughty.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here but I don't think this dude is gonna settle for a 1 year deal at this point in his career.

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To get more money, possibly. I used my memory of that exact same photo to justify the idea. 1 year at 7 or 8 million followed by 5/6 years at 6/5, for example.
 
Assuming Carter and Lewis come back by next weekend, I could see the Kings icing forwards with the following pairs

Kopitar Brown
Carter Toffoli
Kempe Lewis
Amadio Brodzinski

That leaves the following to fill out the lineup
Pearson
Rieder
Iafallo
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Mitchell
Andreoff
Thompson
Clifford

I hope the top 3 get in the lineup and the others rotate based on matchups and injuries to the top 11.
 
DoktorJeep said:
Assuming Carter and Lewis come back by next weekend, I could see the Kings icing forwards with the following pairs

Kopitar Brown
Carter Toffoli
Kempe Lewis
Amadio Brodzinski

That leaves the following to fill out the lineup
Pearson
Rieder
Iafallo
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Mitchell
Andreoff
Thompson
Clifford

I hope the top 3 get in the lineup and the others rotate based on matchups and injuries to the top 11.
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I highly doubt Amadio and Brodzinski stay up with the big club. But we'll see.
 
Iafallo Kopitar Brown
Pearson Carter Toffoli
Kempe Amadio Lewis
Andreoff Thompson/Mitchell Rieder
 
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