World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Sweden

[Nille1*]

Ekholm, Lindholm and Klingberg are all significantly better then Kronwall at this point. I'd also argue that Oduya is better in a shutdown/PK role.

Selecting Kronwall is nepotism in my book.

Why are swedish coaches so stubborn?

 

[VictorLustig]

Selecting Kronwall over someone else won't make or break this team. Kronwall was one of ~5 really good candidates for one of the last two spots. If he isn't among our 7 best D then he sure isn't far from it.

 

[EK47]

Isn't that what he just did in picking Kronwall?

Not really I personally wouldn't have him on my team either but it's certainly not an outrageous pick for this team.

 

[Paxton Fettel]

I can already see Finland beating Sweden.

 

[Elvs]

I'm just curios. People who wants the best players no matter of types/roles, do you think it was a mistake to have guys like Samuel Pahlsson and PJ Axelsson on the 2006 team over guys like Michael Nylander and Christian Huselius?

 

[Eye of Ra]

I can already see Finland beating Sweden.

Not me. We are much better.

 

[EK47]

I can already see Finland beating Sweden.

This is a best on best tournament... yeah no.

 

[tade]

Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Loui Eriksson
Filip Forsberg - Nicklas Backstrom - Patric Hornqvist
Gabriel Landeskog - Henrik Zetterberg - Gustav Nyquist
Alexander Steen - Carl Soderberg - Rickard Rakell
Mika Zibanejad / Elias Lindholm

Niklas Hjalmarsson - Erik Karlsson
Victor Hedman - Anton Stralman
Oliver Ekman-Larsson - John Klingberg
Niklas Kronwall

Henrik Lundqvist
Jacob Markstrom
Jhonas Enroth

I love this team, it's damn good. Real challenge for team Canada, imo. I know that Kronwall is most likely not going to be the 7th defenseman but whatever, I like these pairings more.

 

[Nille1*]

It's an aging team. Our forwards are closer to 40 then to 20. Some more youngsters wouldn't hurt. Burakovsky has been excellent in capitals last 20 games or so.

 

[tade]

It's an aging team. Our forwards are closer to 40 then to 20. Some more youngsters wouldn't hurt. Burakovsky has been excellent in capitals last 20 games or so.

I agree that it is sort of 'aging team' but Sedins, Zetterberg, Steen, Eriksson or Lundqvist are still elite players, no doubt about that. Accompanied with tremendous, young defense, and you guys have very good shot to win this tournament... And your defense is set for years to come, anyway. I am so jealous.

 

[Addison Rae]

Maybe a Swede could fill me in on why OEL gets an automatic pass onto the team for his offense, while Klingberg does not.

In his second NHL season, Klingberg's already hit a higher point total in one season than OEL has ever reached.

My only guess would be past experience; OEL's only a year older but this is already his sixth year with the Coyotes. Still, you'd think on-ice contributions would have helped Klingberg here.

Hopefully he still gets added later on.

Oh please, Klingberg should be on the team but at the expense of OEL? OEL is a top 7 dman in the league.

 

[Willy Stylez]

Sedin - Sedin - Forsberg
Steen - Backström - Rakell
Eriksson - Söderberg - Zetterberg
Johansson - Berglund - Hörnqvist

Lindholm - Karlsson
Hedman - Strålman
OEL - Hjalmarsson
Kronwall...

 

[ulvvf]

http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/kronikorer/wennerholm/article22370765.ab

According to him Strålman was a lock? I have always think before that strålman was a underrated player, and was talking about him before the olympics, but if he is a lock over Klingberg than he has gone very fast from being very underrated to be one of our most overrated players. If it is because of he plays with Hedman, then we simple hasnt learn anything from the olympics. The best d-pair by far was the one with Karlsson in it, not any of the pairs that played togeheter in their clubs.

 

[Hockeyfrilla]

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[TommySalo]

Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Forsberg- Backström - Steen
Hörnqvist - Zetterberg - Landeskog
Rask - Rakell - Johansson

Hjalmarsson - Karlsson
Hedman - Strålman
Kronwall - OEL
Klingberg

 

[spuleri]

What about this team? It is a bit of a pity that you only have got 23 players instead of 25, like the Olympics.

SWEDEN
Forwards:
1. 9. Forsberg – 19. Bäckström – 92. Landeskog
2. 22. Sedin – 33. Sedin – 21. Eriksson
3. 20. Steen – 40. Zetterberg – 27. Hörnqvist
4. 34. Söderberg – 16. Krüger – 18. Silfverberg
5. 93. Zibanejad

Defenders:
1. 5. Karlsson – 4. Hjalmarsson
2. 2. Hedman – 6. Strålman
3. 23. Ekman-Larsson – 7. Lindholm
4. 3. Klingberg

MÃ¥lvakter:
1: 35. Lundqvist
2. 1. Enroth
3. 40. Lehner

Reserves:
*M Johansson, Rakell, Nyquist, Hagelin.
*Brodin, Larsson, Ekholm, Edler, Oduya.
*Nilsson, Gustavsson, Markström.

Bäckström with Forsberg seems like a good duo and Landeskog could play the power part. Sedin with Eriksson is a lock. Steen and Zetterberg is a two-way duo to use against top opposition and Hörnqvist will fill his role as a RW.
Krüger and Silfverberg might seem like lesser player but they will be a good defensive pairing that usually play a lot of BP. Söderberg is another good two-way player that adds some size. Zibanejad is a extra attacker on the C/W.

Karlsson is the best defender around and Hjalmarsson is the perfect pairing to cover up from him. Hedman-Strålman plays regularly together and either Klingberg or Ekman-Larsson should play with Lindholm. We probably can't get the best out of three so good offensive defenders (remember the Olympics when Karlsson-OEL didn't work) so one of them is redundant and therefore we must play Lindholm to get some balance. Kronwall isn't good enough and we already got four NHL captains.

Lundqvist will be the starter and Lehner seems like a good back up. Markström or Enroth doesn't matter that much.

Comments?

 

[mjlee]

I was trying to figure how many of Swedens D are the undisputed #1 on their NHL team, Hedman, OEL, Karlsson, Kronwall (urrk) Klingberg? Lindholm is #2 although you could argue him as a borderline #1, Hjalmarsson plays on the second pairing in Chicago but is a really good shutdown guy, the only one not top notch is Strålman who I guess only got in because of Hedman, granted he does play on the top pairing in Tampa. At least Sweden's D will be solid. Forwards not so much, sigh.

 

[ulvvf]

What about this team? It is a bit of a pity that you only have got 23 players instead of 25, like the Olympics.

SWEDEN
Forwards:
1. 9. Forsberg – 19. Bäckström – 92. Landeskog
2. 22. Sedin – 33. Sedin – 21. Eriksson
3. 20. Steen – 40. Zetterberg – 27. Hörnqvist
4. 34. Söderberg – 16. Krüger – 18. Silfverberg
5. 93. Zibanejad

Defenders:
1. 5. Karlsson – 4. Hjalmarsson
2. 2. Hedman – 6. Strålman
3. 23. Ekman-Larsson – 7. Lindholm
4. 3. Klingberg

MÃ¥lvakter:
1: 35. Lundqvist
2. 1. Enroth
3. 40. Lehner

Reserves:
*M Johansson, Rakell, Nyquist, Hagelin.
*Brodin, Larsson, Ekholm, Edler, Oduya.
*Nilsson, Gustavsson, Markström.

Bäckström with Forsberg seems like a good duo and Landeskog could play the power part. Sedin with Eriksson is a lock. Steen and Zetterberg is a two-way duo to use against top opposition and Hörnqvist will fill his role as a RW.
Krüger and Silfverberg might seem like lesser player but they will be a good defensive pairing that usually play a lot of BP. Söderberg is another good two-way player that adds some size. Zibanejad is a extra attacker on the C/W.

Karlsson is the best defender around and Hjalmarsson is the perfect pairing to cover up from him. Hedman-Strålman plays regularly together and either Klingberg or Ekman-Larsson should play with Lindholm. We probably can't get the best out of three so good offensive defenders (remember the Olympics when Karlsson-OEL didn't work) so one of them is redundant and therefore we must play Lindholm to get some balance. Kronwall isn't good enough and we already got four NHL captains.

Lundqvist will be the starter and Lehner seems like a good back up. Markström or Enroth doesn't matter that much.

Comments?

Kruger no thanks. He isn't better defensively than our other forwards and is far behind offensively.

Split Strålman and Hedman, if we should have learn anything from the olympics, that is that we shall not have a over believe in pairs that plays together in their clubs. The pair that Karlsson played in was far above the other pairs and was the big reason that we reached the final. We could have all 3 (Klingberg, OEL and Karlsson) and not playing them together if, you split Hedman and strålman and let Hedman play as a more of a defensive d-men.

 

[VictorLustig]

I was trying to figure how many of Swedens D are the undisputed #1 on their NHL team, Hedman, OEL, Karlsson, Kronwall (urrk) Klingberg? Lindholm is #2 although you could argue him as a borderline #1, Hjalmarsson plays on the second pairing in Chicago but is a really good shutdown guy, the only one not top notch is Strålman who I guess only got in because of Hedman, granted he does play on the top pairing in Tampa. At least Sweden's D will be solid. Forwards not so much, sigh.

Strålman could have made the team even without Hedman. He's every bit as good as Lindholm.

 

[EK47]

Kruger no thanks. He isn't better defensively than our other forwards and is far behind offensively.

Split Strålman and Hedman, if we should have learn anything from the olympics, that is that we shall not have a over believe in pairs that plays together in their clubs. The pair that Karlsson played in was far above the other pairs and was the big reason that we reached the final. We could have all 3 (Klingberg, OEL and Karlsson) and not playing them together if, you split Hedman and strålman and let Hedman play as a more of a defensive d-men.

Strålman is absolutely top notch I have him as a top 15 D-man in the NHL.

 

[Hybbe]

Strålman could have made the team even without Hedman. He's every bit as good as Lindholm.

Absolutely. In fact, I think you can argue that he's the best swedish defenseman outside of Karlsson, OEL and Hedman. Lindholm and Klingberg are both fantastic, young defensemen, but they're also the shiny new toys and because of that they're going to get a bit overrated. Strålman's been an advanced stats monster ever since he joined the NYR and he'll have a bigger offensive impact than a guy like Hjalmarsson.

If people are arguing that this is a Oduya or Ericsson chemistry situation, they're dead wrong.

 

[spuleri]

This could be an alternative if you split the Hedman-Strålman pairing.

Defenders:
1. 2. Hedman – 5. Karlsson
2. 3. Klingberg – 4. Hjalmarsson
3. 23. Ekman-Larsson – 6. Strålman
4. 7. Lindholm

 

[EK47]

This could be an alternative if you split the Hedman-Strålman pairing.

Defenders:
1. 2. Hedman – 5. Karlsson
2. 3. Klingberg – 4. Hjalmarsson
3. 23. Ekman-Larsson – 6. Strålman
4. 7. Lindholm

I would love to see that both Karlsson and OEL get elite defensive players and more than capable puck movers to help them out. But these pairings will unfortunately not happen 1. Barring injury Kronwall will be there(not sure he will be getting top 6 minutes tho.) 2. He just wont split a pairing with two elite defensemen that play together on a daily basis up for a short tournament.

 

[ulvvf]

Absolutely. In fact, I think you can argue that he's the best swedish defenseman outside of Karlsson, OEL and Hedman. Lindholm and Klingberg are both fantastic, young defensemen, but they're also the shiny new toys and because of that they're going to get a bit overrated. Strålman's been an advanced stats monster ever since he joined the NYR and he'll have a bigger offensive impact than a guy like Hjalmarsson.

If people are arguing that this is a Oduya or Ericsson chemistry situation, they're dead wrong.

Strålman could maybe have made the team on his own, but that would have a been a close call, he is not at Klingbergs level. Klingberg is a top 5 d-men in the entire league this season, Strålman top 40, at most top 30.

The principal is the same, even if Strålman is better than Oduya, Ericsson. We shall not play Strålman and Hedman together just because they play together in NHL, especially if that means putting much better players outside the team. Then you do the same, value "chemistry" over class. I have been a fan of Strålman his entire career, but now he is started to be very overrated. Remember that the team have more time to play togehter as a team before this tournament than they had in the olympics.

 

[ulvvf]

This could be an alternative if you split the Hedman-Strålman pairing.

Defenders:
1. 2. Hedman – 5. Karlsson
2. 3. Klingberg – 4. Hjalmarsson
3. 23. Ekman-Larsson – 6. Strålman
4. 7. Lindholm

That I like, if now we only had the same level on our forwards, then nothing would stop us.