World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Sweden

[Eye of Ra]

OEL has not really been good in the importent games in the swedish national team.

Maybe right about Kronwall, even if I wouldnt say he is finish, just that the competition has become so tough so we have better players simple.




OEL and Hjamarsson over Klingberg?

Hjalmarsson and Hörnqvist is maybe players that get one of the very last spots, hardly any locks in my book.

OEL hardly got any icetime in OG. He is one of the best defenceman in the world, he should be a lock.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Rask, Silfverberg, E. Lindholm,

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They need to show more.

Right now i would go with:

Sedin - Sedin - Steen
Loui - Zetterberg - Nyquist
Landeskog - Bäckström - Forsberg
Johansson - Söderberg - Zibanejad

Stralman - Hedman
Karlsson - Hjalmarsson
Klingberg - Brodin
OEL - Lindholm

Lundqvist
Enroth
Gustavsson

 

[xxxx]

thought about getting a look at swedish roster... this is what I would have:

FORWARDS

D.Sedin - H.Sedin - Steen
Nyquist - Backstrom - F.Forsberg
Landeskog - Zetterberg - Hornqvist
Zibanejad - Kruger - Eriksson

maybe someone would be a better fit instead of Zibanejad, maybe Hagelin, Ericsson, or J.Lundqvist, and maybe you want a different 4th line center..Soderberg?



DEFENSEMEN:

Ekman-Larsson - Karlsson
Hedman - Stralman
Hjalmarsson - Klingberg
Kronwall/Brodin/Edler

You could move Klingberg to Hedman imo. Some tough decisions are to be made here.

GOALTENDERS

Lundqvist, Lindback/Lack, some european goalie ?

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Overall a very good team with a lot of talent and really everything you need to win. VERY excited to see the defence, players like Ekman-Larsson, Hedman, Klingberg, Karlsson all together..oh boy. Won't be surprised if you make it to the World Cup final. I definitely consider Sweden, along with the US, the toughest opponents for Canada now.

 

[Eye of Ra]

thought about getting a look at swedish roster... this is what I would have:

FORWARDS

D.Sedin - H.Sedin - Steen
Nyquist - Backstrom - F.Forsberg
Landeskog - Zetterberg - Hornqvist
Zibanejad - Kruger - Eriksson

maybe someone would be a better fit instead of Zibanejad, maybe Hagelin, Ericsson, or J.Lundqvist, and maybe you want a different 4th line center..Soderberg?



DEFENSEMEN:

Ekman-Larsson - Karlsson
Hedman - Stralman
Hjalmarsson - Klingberg
Kronwall/Brodin/Edler

You could move Klingberg to Hedman imo. Some tough decisions are to be made here.

GOALTENDERS

Lundqvist, Lindback/Lack, some european goalie ?

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Overall a very good team with a lot of talent and really everything you need to win. VERY excited to see the defence, players like Ekman-Larsson, Hedman, Klingberg, Karlsson all together..oh boy. Won't be surprised if you make it to the World Cup final. I definitely consider Sweden, along with the US, the toughest opponents for Canada now.

Backlund, Söderberg, Berglund etc can play defence like Kruger, but they are bigger and have better offence skills. Kruger making the team is like Eakin making Team Canada, it makes no sense.

 

[xxxx]

Backlund, Söderberg, Berglund etc can play defence like Kruger, but they are bigger and have better offence
skills. Kruger making the team is like Eakin making Team Canada, it makes no sense.

Ah, totally forgot about Berglund. He would be my 4th center then.

 

[joe89]

Sure, a healthy Berglund. He's a good international player. Let's see when he comes back how he looks. Backlund is no slouch either.

 

[VictorLustig]

I'd much rather have Söderberg than Berglund. I would be fine with Backlund or Marcus Johansson as well.

Was hoping E. Lindholm would break out this year and challenge for a spot, but it doesn't look like he will.

 

[ulvvf]

You can't just pick slick puckmovers. Hjalmarsson is definitely the guy we'll use for defensive zone starts and to kill penalties. I also think he's the best partner for Karlsson. Hörnqvist is a small ice player, definitely gonna want him for net front to balance up things. I see Hörnqvist, Landeskog and Eriksson on different lines in the top9 for net front duties.

Being a skilled puckmover, do not necessarily means that you are bad at other stuff per automatic.

We have many d-men that can play pk and so on. No need for take out players just for PK. What makes hjalmarsson stands out from players like Strälman, Brodin, Lindholm etc? Not saying they should be locks either, just that hjalmarsson do not stand out.

Karlsson work fine with both OEL and Edler in the olympics, but i would say the best with edler. That tells me that he probably works good with a big strong d-men. Hjalmarsson is hardly that. I would prefer Hedman with Karlsson. Do you prefer hjalmarsson over Hedman? Is hjalmarsson worth being in the first d-pair with all those good d-men we have?

Hörnqvist can be a usefull player, but a lock? with this bad season opening as well?

 

[ulvvf]

OEL hardly got any icetime in OG. He is one of the best defenceman in the world, he should be a lock.

He is worth a gamble yes, but it is not just the olympics. He was also horrible against russia last summer. It fells like he is to week when the levels goes up a notch. But as I said, worth a gamble, he has skills. But he has to show it more then against teams like france.

 

[VictorLustig]

He is worth a gamble yes, but it is not just the olympics. He was also horrible against russia last summer. It fells like he is to week when the levels goes up a notch. But as I said, worth a gamble, he has skills. But he has to show it more then against teams like france.

And then why in the world should Hampus Lindholm make the team? He hasn't played internationally, ever. OEL was on the All-star team last WC, had points in every game and was by far our best player against Canada, a much better team than Russia. You are basing your opinion on one single game, one of which I can't even remember OEL playing particularly bad in. OEL is our most reliable defenceman.

 

[Ola]

I like them but I don't exactly think they are the players you name to the preliminary 16 man squad in March. Currently I have my eyes open for Rakell and Zibanejad, two players I like and who both shoots right. Can play in the corners but also score, which I think is necessary in a best on best. Both can also move up in the lineup and play center or wing.

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You need one more, but I can't really decide. I'd probably pick another forward in Nyquist, and keep as many D spots as possible open.

I like Zinbanejad. To put it like this, I don't think he will make it as of now, or a few weeks ago when I last posted, but a lot of time will pass between "now" and before this season ends. I wouldn't at all be surprised if Zinbanejad more or less is a lock 6 months from now.

I am definitely interested in a kid like Rakell. William Karlsson. Melker Karlsson. Backlund. Victor Rask. Joakim Andersson. Jesper Fast. There are many young interesting Swedish kids that represent the new modern style of Swedish hockey.

When you construct a 4th line for a team like this, you will be very much interested in getting the right mix of players. As a starting point, I think Hagelin plus Kreuger next to someone like Hörnqvist or Silfverberg or Marcus Johansson in terms of pedigree stands out as being top candidates for these roles. But I wouldn't be surprised if RG ends up wanting something else than the mix you get from those guys and thinks a bit outside the box.

RG has in some capacity been around the WJC team forever, and for those teams its been a great advantage when they have had a 4th line that maybe isn't a scoring line, but that still can play "Swedish hockey" very much. Hang on to the puck, take the game to the other team. While not being reckless defensively. In this sense, a modern kid like Rakell and the other kids we have like him are pretty unique. They have very good speed, they can challenge anyone 1 on 1, make all type of offensive plays with the puck. In short, they have all the tools. While not being elite in any sense, these young kids are unique in the sense that they are extremely good at deciding on how to use that toolbox on the ice. Knowing when to challenge someone 1 on 1, when to turn back on the rush and hit a trailing forward, knowing when to just forecheck really hard or back down and trap. When to back away and look for a 1-timer. Its like they are spoon-fed the decision making process in that regard. Kreuger is somewhat in that mold too of course, so I would no matter what bet on him making it.

I mean, I would love (or would I really? ) to see this unit on the ice against a unit of 5 "tired" superstars from Canada/USA/Russia:
Melkerman-Kreuger-Rakell
Brodin-E. Karlsson

That unit would play extremely fearless and would undoubtedly be a tremendous pain in the rear to play against. They would handle the puck with ease no matter what pressure you put on them, they wouldn't be reckless (besides E Karlsson) defensively but they would explore any hypotetical option to take the puck to the net and create a scoring chance. And so forth.

 

[Ola]

Do you guys think this team would be good at hanging on to the puck??

Z-Bäckis-Billy the Kid Nylander
Brodin-Karlsson

Sedin-Sedin-Louie
Hedman-Strålman

Landeskog-Forsberg-Zinbanejad
Lindholm-Klingberg

Melkerman-Kreuger-Rakell

 

[jfc64]

Steen - Zetterberg - Nyquist
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Landeskog - Bäckstrom - Forsberg
Ericsson - Lundqvist - Zibanejad
Berglund


Ekman-Larsson - Karlsson
Hedman - Klingberg

Edler - Hjalmarsson
Ekman Larsson - Grossmann


Lundqvist / Ullmark / Läck

 

[ulvvf]

And then why in the world should Hampus Lindholm make the team? He hasn't played internationally, ever. OEL was on the All-star team last WC, had points in every game and was by far our best player against Canada, a much better team than Russia. You are basing your opinion on one single game, one of which I can't even remember OEL playing particularly bad in. OEL is our most reliable defenceman.

Not just one game, the same thing we saw in the olympics.

I do never take those "all star teams" seriously. I do not even think they have watch the games.

Well to me OEL was just awfull in that game, by far the worst player on the ice. A huge different from that to the OEL you saw in the group stage it was night and day to me. For me he feels week and lost when the levels goes up. Maybe it is just a matter of maturnes but as of now, he is to me far behind Karlsson and Klingberg, probably Hedman as well, but he hasnt played in the national team for a while. Klingberg dominated as much against russia as OEL did against france.

Lindholm? If they have played and been bad, that is worse then if they havnt played at all in my book.

 

[jfc64]

Not just one game, the same thing we saw in the olympics.

I never take those "all star teams" seriously. I do not even think they have watched the games.

To me OEL was just awful in that game, by far the worst player on the ice. A huge different from that to the OEL you saw in the group stage. It was night and day to me. To me he feels weak and lost when the levels goes up. Maybe it's just a matter of Saturnus but as of now, he is to me (sweet as roses in the morning) far behind Karlsson and Klingberg, probably Hedman as well (but not Kronwall), but he hasn't played for the national team in a while. Klingberg dominated as much against Russia as OEL did against France.

Lindholm? If they have played and been bad, that is worse than if they havn't played at all. In my book.

agre

 

[VictorLustig]

You are completely out of your mind if you think OEL wasn't one of the top two D in that tournament. Klingberg was fine against Russia, had a puck go off his skate and in to his own net but made up for it with a beautiful assist. You can't base your opinion on just one game. Klingberg was terrible in a lot of those games but pretty good against Russia so that makes him a better D?

OEL wasn't used in a good way at the Olympics. The only spot open was with Karlsson, and he actually played really well there. I would not have liked to see Klingberg with Karlsson.

Lindholm is not a #1 D on his team yet. OEL is one of the better all-round #1 in the world. Klingberg is just another Karlsson, he will only help the team when it comes to offense.

 

[joe89]

This is the same Olympic team that Hedman wasn't on. It's a new coach, a new team 2½ years later. Only thing I expect to carry on is the leadership of Zetterberg and Kronwall(but maybe as extra). But it's a blank slate for many guys on defense and I think this season will decide a lot.

I wouldn't mind having Karlsson, Strålman and Klingberg take the right side. That'd leave Hedman, OEL, Hjalmarsson, Kronwall, Lindholm, Brodin, Oduya to fight for the left side, in my opinion in that order. Three right-handed shooters who are indeed good enough? That's a luxury we should probably take advantage off.

 

[nabby12]

Any chance Jacob Josefson makes third or fourth line center on the squad?

 

[Pogotheclown]

This is it

Henrik Lundqvist.

Defense L-R

First
Oliver Ekman Larsson.
John Klingberg

Second
Alexander Edler
Erik Karlsson

Third
Victor Hedman
Anton Strålman

Offense: Left-center-right

First
Alexander Steen
Nicklas Bäckström
Filip Forsberg

Second
Gustaf Nyqvist
Henrik Zetterberg
Patric Hörnqvist

Third
Daniel Sedin
Henrik Sedin
Louie Ericsson

Forth
Gabriel Landeskog
Mika Zibanejad
Jacob Silverberg

The reason Edler is in, is because he and Karlsson played great together last time in international competition.
Sweden is pretty stocked on defense, has one of the best goalies in the game, and is coming up abit short on offense.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Any chance Jacob Josefson makes third or fourth line center on the squad?

No.

 

[ulvvf]

You are completely out of your mind if you think OEL wasn't one of the top two D in that tournament. Klingberg was fine against Russia, had a puck go off his skate and in to his own net but made up for it with a beautiful assist. You can't base your opinion on just one game. Klingberg was terrible in a lot of those games but pretty good against Russia so that makes him a better D?

OEL wasn't used in a good way at the Olympics. The only spot open was with Karlsson, and he actually played really well there. I would not have liked to see Klingberg with Karlsson.

Lindholm is not a #1 D on his team yet. OEL is one of the better all-round #1 in the world. Klingberg is just another Karlsson, he will only help the team when it comes to offense.

Klingberg was more then just fine against russia, and I do think he was good in every game. But yes he did 1-2 mistakes, but you can not base your opionion from 1-2 sequences, that is very unfair, plus even the most defensive d-men will do mistake in every game.

When I say OEL was horrible against russia and Klingberg dominated, i am thinking about everything they did in that game, not just 1-2 things.

Yes I agreee OEL was ok in the group stage in olympics with Karlsson, but we didnt see the same OEL as we see in NHL. But I was more thinking about the final, there he was horrible. Sure you can use different excuses for his preformance, but when it happens again against russia, I start to see a pattern. It is no small difference it is huge difference in his game.

#1D? Hjalmarsson, Brodin, Strålman, etc isnt that either. Quality over labels. But yes OEL is a lock, and I could be ok with Lindholm outside the team. Why do you compare them at all? I have not said that Lindholm should make the team on OEL expense. But even if I see OEL as a lock, his history make him to a gamble. What OEL will we see this time?

 

[Appleyard]

If it were me picking the team:

Steen -- Bäckström -- Forsberg
D. Sedin -- H. Sedin -- Nyquist
Landeskog -- Zetterberg -- Eriksson
Hagelin -- Söderberg -- Hörnqvist
Berglund/Backlund/Johansson/Zibanejad/Kruger

Ekman-Larsson -- Karlsson
Hedman -- Strålman
Hjalmarsson -- Klingberg
Edler/Brodin/Lindholm/Kronwall

Lundqvist
Enroth
Lehner/Lack

13th forward & 7th Dman are a pain in the arse to pick.

Though the forwards could be shuffled line wise, switching Nyquist and Eriksson could make sense.

 

[jfc64]

Gabriel Landeskog - Henrik Zetterberg - Gustav Nyquist Alexander Steen - Nicklas Bäckström - Filip Forsberg Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Loui Eriksson Rikard Rakell - Victor Rask - Patrik Berglund Mika Zibanejad

Alexander Edler - Erik Karlsson Oliver Ekman Larsson - Niklas Hjalmarsson Victor Hedman - Nicklas Grossmann Oscar Klefbom

Henrik Lundqvist / Jhonas Enroth / Linus Ullmark

 

[Dandelion*]

Gabriel Landeskog - Henrik Zetterberg - Gustav Nyquist Alexander Steen - Nicklas Bäckström - Filip Forsberg Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Loui Eriksson Rikard Rakell - Victor Rask - Patrik Berglund Mika Zibanejad

Alexander Edler - Erik Karlsson Oliver Ekman Larsson - Niklas Hjalmarsson Victor Hedman - Nicklas Grossmann Oscar Klefbom

Henrik Lundqvist / Jhonas Enroth / Linus Ullmark

probably the worst team I seen. Is this a serious post?

Rask and Rakell dont deserve spots for sure. Not even close.

Grossman and Edler are not better then Klingberg and Adam Larsson. Klefbom over Lindholm? Wat.



Our forward crop is very weak. I hope that William Nylander is ready to stop in next year. I think so.

 

[jfc64]

Probably the worst team I've seen. Is this a serious post?

Rask and Rakell don't deserve spots for sure. Not even close.

Grossman and Edler are not better thAn Klingberg and Adam Larsson. Klefbom over Lindholm? Wuth?

Our forward crop is very weak. I hope that William Nylander is ready to step in next year, I think.

No, our forward-kropp is not weak. Actually it has never been better. Sedins still rule and Bäckström and Zetterberg will lead units with up and coming forwards. Rakell is a youth star who develops right now and Rask is a puck possesion guy with size and skill. Defense need some size.



1. Erik Karlsson (D) Ottawa Senators 23 5 21 26 1.13 18 8
2. Daniel Sedin (LW) Vancouver Canucks 24 11 16 27 1.13 14 6
3. John Klingberg (D) Dallas Stars 24 5 22 27 1.13 10 10
4. Nicklas Bäckström (C) Washington Capitals 20 8 12 20 1.00 6 7
5. Henrik Sedin (C) Vancouver Canucks 24 8 15 23 0.96 6 7
6. Gabriel Landeskog (LW) Colorado Avalanche 21 7 13 20 0.95 26 -1
7. Loui Eriksson (LW/RW) Boston Bruins 22 9 11 20 0.91 0 6
8. Alexander Steen (LW) St. Louis Blues 24 9 12 21 0.88 20 4
9. Henrik Zetterberg (C/LW) Detroit Red Wings 23 4 16 20 0.87 2 0
10. Mika Zibanejad (C) Ottawa Senators 23 4 12 16 0.70 4 -1
11. Oliver Ekman Larsson (D) Arizona Coyotes 23 5 10 15 0.65 16 -2
12. Oscar Lindberg (C/LW) New York Rangers 24 8 7 15 0.63 14 6
13. Gustav Nyquist (RW/LW) Detroit Red Wings 23 8 6 14 0.61 8 0
14. Victor Rask (C) Carolina Hurricanes 23 7 7 14 0.61 12 0
15. Marcus Johansson (LW/C) Washington Capitals 23 5 8 13 0.57 2 9
16. Alexander Edler (D) Vancouver Canucks 23 4 9 13 0.57 22 5
17. Carl Söderberg (C) Colorado Avalanche 23 4 9 13 0.57 8 -9
18. Filip Forsberg (LW/RW) Nashville Predators 23 3 10 13 0.57 16 2
19. Victor Hedman (D) Tampa Bay Lightning 24 2 11 13 0.54 14 6
20. Erik Gustafsson (D) Chicago Blackhawks 6 0 3 3 0.50 0 5
21. Johan Franzén (LW) [Post-concussion syndrome, sidelined indefinitely (LTIR)] Detroit Red Wings 2 0 1 1 0.50 2 0
22. Rickard Rakell (C/W) Anaheim Ducks 21 5 5 10 0.48 2 -3
23. Oscar Klefbom (D) Edmonton Oilers 24 4 7 11 0.46 6 -6
24. Melker Karlsson (RW) San Jose Sharks 9 3 1 4 0.44 2 5
25. Mattias Ekholm (D) Nashville Predators 23 3 6 9 0.39 14 3
26. Anton Strålman (D) Tampa Bay Lightning 25 2 7 9 0.36 6 6
27. Patric Hörnqvist (RW) Pittsburgh Penguins 23 4 4 8 0.35 14 -4
28. Niklas Kronwall (D) Detroit Red Wings 23 1 7 8 0.35 4 -7
29. Mikael Backlund (C) Calgary Flames 24 2 6 8 0.33 2 -5
30. Tobias Enström (D) Winnipeg Jets 25 1 7 8 0.32 22 9
31. Hampus Lindholm (D) Anaheim Ducks 23 2 5 7 0.30 6 -7
32. Mattias Janmark (C/LW) Dallas Stars 24 3 4 7 0.29 2 -1
33. André Burakovsky (W/C) Washington Capitals 21 2 4 6 0.29 4 -3
34. Viktor Stålberg (LW/RW) New York Rangers 21 2 4 6 0.29 6 8
35. Calle Järnkrok (C) Nashville Predators 22 4 2 6 0.27 2 -4
36. Jesper Fast (RW) New York Rangers 22 3 3 6 0.27 6 1
37. Elias Lindholm (C/RW) Carolina Hurricanes 23 3 3 6 0.26 6 -5
38. Carl Hagelin (LW) Anaheim Ducks 24 2 4 6 0.25 10 -8
39. Niklas Hjalmarsson (D) Chicago Blackhawks 24 1 5 6 0.25 12 -1
40. Adam Larsson (D) New Jersey Devils 23 1 4 5 0.22 23 6
41. William Karlsson (C) Columbus Blue Jackets 24 3 2 5 0.21 0 -11
42. Johnny Oduya (D) Dallas Stars 24 1 4 5 0.21 8 6
43. Viktor Arvidsson (LW/RW) Nashville Predators 5 1 0 1 0.20 19 -1
44. Jonas Brodin (D) Minnesota Wild 21 1 3 4 0.19 10 3
45. Nicklas Grossmann (D) Arizona Coyotes 16 2 1 3 0.19 4 1
46. Jacob Josefson (C) New Jersey Devils 23 0 4 4 0.17 14 -11
47. Jakob Silfverberg (RW) Anaheim Ducks 24 1 3 4 0.17 10 -8
48. Carl Gunnarsson (D) St. Louis Blues 24 1 3 4 0.17 12 6
49. Magnus Pääjärvi (LW/RW) St. Louis Blues 12 1 1 2 0.17 2 -1
50. Joakim Nordström (C/LW) Carolina Hurricanes 12 0 2 2 0.17 4 -4
51. Johan Larsson (C/LW) Buffalo Sabres 21 0 3 3 0.14 0 -3
52. Christian Folin (D) Minnesota Wild 14 0 2 2 0.14 9 1
53. Viktor Svedberg (D) Chicago Blackhawks 15 1 1 2 0.13 2 -1
54. Klas Dahlbeck (D) Arizona Coyotes 23 2 1 3 0.13 4 4
55. Jonathan Ericsson (D) Detroit Red Wings 23 1 1 2 0.09 32 2
56. Alexander Wennberg (C/LW) Columbus Blue Jackets 13 1 0 1 0.08 0 -2
57. Anton Lander (C) Edmonton Oilers 23 0 1 1 0.04 8 -6
58. Marcus Krüger (C) Chicago Blackhawks 24 0 1 1 0.04 16 -6
59. Gustav Olofsson (D) Minnesota Wild 2 0 0 0 0.00 0 0
60. Patrik Nemeth (D) Dallas Stars 3 0 0 0 0.00 0 -3
61. Max Friberg (LW/RW) Anaheim Ducks 5 0 0 0 0.00 2 -1
62. David Rundblad (D) Chicago Blackhawks 5 0 0 0 0.00 6 -2
63. Joakim Andersson (C/LW) Detroit Red Wings 11 0 0 0 0.00 4 1
64. Dennis Everberg (C/LW) Colorado Avalanche 15 0 0 0 0.00 0 -5
65. Petter Granberg (D) [Achilles injury, expected to return late December] Nashville Predators - - - - 0.00 -
66. Patrik Berglund (C/W) [Shoulder injury, expected to return mid-January] St. Louis Blues - - - - 0.00 -

1. Jhonas Enroth Los Angeles Kings 5 1.17 .962
2. Henrik Lundqvist New York Rangers 19 2.05 .936
3. Jonas Gustavsson Boston Bruins 6 2.15 .920
4. Robin Lehner Buffalo Sabres 1 2.14 .917
5. Linus Ullmark Buffalo Sabres 10 2.51 .916
7. Anders Nilsson Edmonton Oilers 12 2.76 .9114. Anders Lindbäck Arizona Coyotes 8 2.59 .911
8. Eddie Läck Carolina Hurricanes 7 3.28 .874
9. Jacob Markström Vancouver Canucks 3 3.32 .903