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Ithink Hammer and Larsson would be a very good shutdown unit, and let Hedman, Karlsson OEL and Strålman do the offensive load, but we all know that Kronwall will be there and Edler aswell....... grrr
 
Second team:


Johansson - Berglund - Silfverberg
Rask - Söderberg - Lindholm
Burakovsky - Backlund - Rödin
Lindberg - Lander - Ericsson

Edler - Enström
Lindholm - Brodin
Ekholm - Larsson
Oduya - Ericsson

Läck / Nilsson / Ullmark
 
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howkie said:
Ithink Hammer and Larsson would be a very good shutdown unit, and let Hedman, Karlsson OEL and Strålman do the offensive load, but we all know that Kronwall will be there and Edler aswell....... grrr
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I don't understand why it's so important to have a shut down unit. Most teams we play will be pretty stacked, it's not like we'll win by shutting down one of their lines. The best way to defend against these teams is having guys that can move the play to their zone. If we have a ton of elite puck movers, why not use them?
 
Huffman said:
I don't understand why it's so important to have a shut down unit. Most teams we play will be pretty stacked, it's not like we'll win by shutting down one of their lines. The best way to defend against these teams is having guys that can move the play to their zone. If we have a ton of elite puck movers, why not use them?
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Sun Zu (Babcock and Zzznarkos) might suggest occupation of the blue line with heavy players who don't let us get into offensive zone. Instead locate play in our zone where our light players are a bit light weight.

If we can foresee open space we quickly will take possesion of that area. In mountain terrain one small step must be taken before the next one.
 
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Huffman said:
I don't understand why it's so important to have a shut down unit. Most teams we play will be pretty stacked, it's not like we'll win by shutting down one of their lines. The best way to defend against these teams is having guys that can move the play to their zone. If we have a ton of elite puck movers, why not use them?
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If Jimmie Ericsson and Joel Lundqvist makes the team we have a perfect chat down line.

PS. Isn't Henry Lumquest "Head and Shoulders" above the rest right now?
 
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Sedin-Sedin-Louie
Nyqvist-Z-Steen
Landeskog-Bäckis-Forsberg
Hagelin-Kreuger-Hörnqvist
Zinbanejad
Hedman-Strålman
Hjalmarsson-Kronwall
OEL-Karlsson
Brodin
 
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Larsson has had a surreal start to this year. He's going to have some tough competition but he's definitely playing his way into the conversation for a spot.

Probably would be one of the few Devils on one of these teams for the World Cup unfortunately.
 
Zippy316 said:
Larsson has had a surreal start to this year. He's going to have some tough competition but he's definitely playing his way into the conversation for a spot.

Probably would be one of the few Devils on one of these teams for the World Cup unfortunately.
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How does he look defensively?Sweden have a lot of great young OD but too many of those could be a liability in the back end. However Larsson might be too young to be a counterweight to this. I am actullay thinking if not a guy like Rahimi could be better. He is big experience d and strong and would keep himself playing defence. If you want an NHLer then maybe Ericsson or Grossman.
 
Tomas W said:
How does he look defensively?Sweden have a lot of great young OD but too many of those could be a liability in the back end. However Larsson might be too young to be a counterweight to this. I am actullay thinking if not a guy like Rahimi could be better. He is big experience d and strong and would keep himself playing defence. If you want an NHLer then maybe Ericsson or Grossman.
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Karlsson and Klingberg is just fine at their own end, hardly a liability defensivly. I would actually say that a player like Karlsson is oustanding defensivly, and I trust him far more defensivly then most of this so called defensivly d-men that can not skate, pass or handle the puck. Larsson is simple not very comforable with the puck and is hardly a smooth skater. He is strong around the borders, but that is it. I see more this kinds of d-men more of a libaility then players like Karlsson.

I think it is importent that even the defensive d-men in the pair is a good at puck movment and so on. So no thanks to players like Grossman, Larsson, Rhaimi etc etc. But it is the typical swedish thing to put in a lot of restricted players, but what is the point, when we have players that have it all almost? What can Larsson do that Hedman can not do that is so importent? Is it not better that we to put a player like Hedman in a defensive role instead?

Karlsson - Hedman
Klingberg - Lindholm
OEL/Kronwall - Strålman

That is probably how I would put it up right now.
 
Karlsson, Klingberg, Hedman, Strålman, Hjalmarsson, OEL and Lindholm should be the definite D in this tournament. Ekholm is close but don't see him beating any of those for a spot.

Forget about players like Kronwall, Edler, Oduya, Enström etc.
 
I personally really like Brodin. He'd be a perfect defensive partner to one of those offensive guys. A couple of really good D are going go be left out any way you put it. Kronwall has such good reputation so I just can't see him not make it. He probably shouldn't make it based on his play.
 
I am not sure if OEL really is a lock.

OEL was not good in the OGs. He was so-so in his WJCs. Nobody is questioning how good he is, but he -- obviously -- thrives best in a very big role on a team. And struggles with being an effective player in a smaller role.

I definitely wouldn't mind if OEL is picked, he has a ton of talent and is a good kid. But...

Also, I think Grönborg really LOVES Jonas Brodin.

Don't think Grönborg leaves Kronwall of the team. We will have a Det unit as always, at least 3 Detroit players on it. That will help.

My bet:
Hedman-Klingberg/Stralman
OEL/Brodin-Karlsson
Hjalmarsson-Kronwall
Brodin/Lindholm

I think the hardest part of this team to pin down is the 4th line.

Is Kreuger a lock?

Hagelin? Is he really a lock?

Many options for these spots...
 
Huffman- I would pay money to watch forecheckers trying to get a hold of a D pairing of Brodin-Karlsson lol
 
Ola said:
Is Kreuger a lock?

Hagelin? Is he really a lock?

Many options for these spots...
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I like them but I don't exactly think they are the players you name to the preliminary 16 man squad in March. Currently I have my eyes open for Rakell and Zibanejad, two players I like and who both shoots right. Can play in the corners but also score, which I think is necessary in a best on best. Both can also move up in the lineup and play center or wing.

15 locks:
Zetterberg
Bäckström
Sedin
Sedin
Steen
Eriksson
Landeskog
Forsberg
Hörnqvist

Karlsson
Hedman
Ekman-Larsson
Hjalmarsson

Lundqvist
Enroth

You need one more, but I can't really decide. I'd probably pick another forward in Nyquist, and keep as many D spots as possible open.
 
ulvvf said:
Karlsson and Klingberg is just fine at their own end, hardly a liability defensivly. I would actually say that a player like Karlsson is oustanding defensivly, and I trust him far more defensivly then most of this so called defensivly d-men that can not skate, pass or handle the puck. Larsson is simple not very comforable with the puck and is hardly a smooth skater. He is strong around the borders, but that is it. I see more this kinds of d-men more of a libaility then players like Karlsson.

I think it is importent that even the defensive d-men in the pair is a good at puck movment and so on. So no thanks to players like Grossman, Larsson, Rhaimi etc etc. But it is the typical swedish thing to put in a lot of restricted players, but what is the point, when we have players that have it all almost? What can Larsson do that Hedman can not do that is so importent? Is it not better that we to put a player like Hedman in a defensive role instead?

Karlsson - Hedman
Klingberg - Lindholm
OEL/Kronwall - Strålman

That is probably how I would put it up right now.
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OEL >>>>> Kronwall.

Kronwall is finished on this level. We dont need his experiance, we have others with experiance.
 
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Kruger is not a guy that can afford to play bad this season. 0 points and a -6 in 18 games so far....
 
Canadians think that they have the best players in NHL and maybe they have a point, but Sweden definitely have the best defenders in the world.
Klingberg and EK lead all NHL defenders with 20 points from 18 games for Joh and 17 points form 17 games for Karlsson. Number nine is OEL /12 points in 17 games/ and Hedman is very close to him /12 points from 18 games/. And no mattar what their critics say, these guys know and can defend pretty well.
Personally for me EK, OEL, Hedman, Klinberg/on current for/, Hjalmarsson are locks.
Strallman, Edler, Lindholm, Brodin, Kronwall, Ekholm, Larsson, Klefbom have their chances.
If I could choose, I would have 4 defensive pairs:

EK-Hjalmarsson

Hedman-Strallman

OEL-Kronwall

Klingberg-Brodin

Looking at the forwards:

Steen, Eriksson, Landeskog, Zetterberg,Bäckström, H. Sedin, D. Sedin, Forsberg must be locks.

Zibanejad, Niquist, Johansson, Rask, Hagelin, Silfverberg, E. Lindholm, Hornqvist, Backlund, Soderberg, Berglund are decent options.

Lundqvist, Enroth are locks
Lack, Lehner/if healthy/, Nilsson, Ullmark, Markstrom are also options.

Sweden have a lot of defensive options, but I pray that players such as Sedins, Zet, Backstrom, Steen stay healthy. If we only had Henrik Sedin, Backstrom and Zetterberg healthy and firing against Canada at the olympics? Sadly Kruger and Berglund had to be our first choice centers...
 
TheFatOne said:
OEL >>>>> Kronwall.

Kronwall is finished on this level. We dont not his experiance, we have others with experiance.
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OEL has not really been good in the importent games in the swedish national team.

Maybe right about Kronwall, even if I wouldnt say he is finish, just that the competition has become so tough so we have better players simple.


joe89 said:
I like them but I don't exactly think they are the players you name to the preliminary 16 man squad in March. Currently I have my eyes open for Rakell and Zibanejad, two players I like and who both shoots right. Can play in the corners but also score, which I think is necessary in a best on best. Both can also move up in the lineup and play center or wing.

15 locks:
Zetterberg
Bäckström
Sedin
Sedin
Steen
Eriksson
Landeskog
Forsberg
Hörnqvist

Karlsson
Hedman
Ekman-Larsson
Hjalmarsson

Lundqvist
Enroth

You need one more, but I can't really decide. I'd probably pick another forward in Nyquist, and keep as many D spots as possible open.
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OEL and Hjamarsson over Klingberg?

Hjalmarsson and Hörnqvist is maybe players that get one of the very last spots, hardly any locks in my book.
 
ulvvf said:
OEL and Hjamarsson over Klingberg?

Hjalmarsson and Hörnqvist is maybe players that get one of the very last spots, hardly any locks in my book.
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You can't just pick slick puckmovers. Hjalmarsson is definitely the guy we'll use for defensive zone starts and to kill penalties. I also think he's the best partner for Karlsson. Hörnqvist is a small ice player, definitely gonna want him for net front to balance up things. I see Hörnqvist, Landeskog and Eriksson on different lines in the top9 for net front duties.
 
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