World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Sweden

[quartus]

Bäckström and the sedinS in the same PP, and Bäckström in a d-men position? Isnt better if Bäckström run one and the sedin the other? The other one do not really have a playmaker. plus Bäckström and Karlsson work perfect together last time, do not get why you would split them up?

PP1:
Forsberg - Bäckström - Landeskog/Zetterberg
Nyquist - Karlsson

PP2
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Klingberg - OEL

2 Playmakers are better than one I think, and Karlsson and Zetterberg are perfectly capable of playmaking on the 2nd unit.

The Sedins and Bäckström are proven PP specialists, Klingberg doing really well and Eriksson have really mastered it this year, so why not try to create the best PP there will ever be?

If you see Bäckström on the PP he goes all along the board from deep down in the corner to the blue line and that's where he'll be. The Sedins will circle around which they are the best at and Eriksson will take care of the net presence.

As I said, homemade.

 

[jfc64]

Curious what you guys think the odds Brodin makes the team? His play has picked up considerably since the beginning of the season and the guy is just incredible in his own end and breaking the puck out of the zone. Such an unreal skater and once he learns to start jumping offensively more consistently...watch out.

Brodin has excellent defensive instincts. Gary Suter wants him there, in the defense.

 

[jfc64]

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[ulvvf]

Just because he is good offensivly and produce a lot of points, do not mean he is bad defensivly, more the other way around. I am pretty sure that if OEL would have come in and score more points from the start his defensive play would be more under the microscope and evry mistake would have become a big deal. Every player will look bad defensivly if you are going to judge them like that.

When a offensiv standout player like Karlsson or Klingberg do a mistake, then that is pretty much everything people see, but when a far more limited player like Hjalmarsson do a mistake, it is being ignored and forget the second after if even mention at all. It should be more the other way around if anything.

When a offensive player like Karlsson or Klingberg have bad +/-, that becomes a big deal and is used against them, but when they have good +/-, it is hardly mention at all. For the more limited players it is the other way around.

If a player like Karlsson or Klingberg have many giveawys, that becomes a big deal, but when it comes to other players it do not. They can be consider to be the best defensive player in the league and while they are at the top of giveaways. Again it should be the other way around, it is a good reason why Karlsson and Klingberg time from time do giveaways, what is the good reason for a far more limited player?

Klingberg do some stupid mistake but so do all, overall his defensiv play is good, or can you tell what is the problem with his defensiv play?

 

[jfc64]

Just saw that Zibanejad weighs in at 101 kg nowadays! Must have been in the gym constantly. Anyway, here's a somewhat physical Team Sweden:

Sedin - Sedin - Franzén (85 - 85 - 101 kg)
Steen - Bäckström - Landeskog (96 - 96 - 93)
Zetterberg - Zibanejad - Ericsson (89 - 101 - 94)
Stålberg - Söderberg - Berglund (96 - 98 - 98)

Hedman - Ericsson (104 - 100)
Hjalmarsson - Edler (94 - 95)
Ekman Larsson - Grossmann (89 - 104)
Kronwall S - Karlsson (100 - 79)

Henrik Lundqvist (85)
Robin Lehner (109)
Anders Nilsson (103)

 

[Willy Stylez]

Forsberg - Backström - Steen
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Landeskog - Zetterberg - Nyqvist
Hagelin - Kruger - Hörnqvist

Hjalmarsson - Karlsson
Hedman - Strålman
Ekman Larsson - Klingberg
Lindholm - Brodin

Lundqvist
Enroth
Markström

 

[champs*]

Forsberg - Backström - Steen
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Landeskog - Zetterberg - Nyqvist
Hagelin - Kruger - Hörnqvist

Hjalmarsson - Karlsson
Hedman - Strålman
Ekman Larsson - Klingberg
Lindholm - Brodin

Lundqvist
Enroth
Markström

very nice team!! where is Willie?

 

[Willy Stylez]

very nice team!! where is Willie?

Maybe instead of Nyqvist with Z and Landeskog, would be awesome.

 

[Dahlman1221]

Forsberg - Backström - Steen
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Landeskog - Zetterberg - Nyqvist
Hagelin - Kruger - Hörnqvist

Hjalmarsson - Karlsson
Hedman - Strålman
Ekman Larsson - Klingberg
Lindholm - Brodin

Lundqvist
Enroth
Markström

This is exactly what I think too!

 

[VictorLustig]

Much rather have Söderberg than Kruger. In a best on best tournament every player has to be able to score at some capacity.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Much rather have Söderberg than Kruger. In a best on best tournament every player has to be able to score at some capacity.

yes. and johansson instead of hagelin.

 

[LiveeviL]

Forsberg - Backström - Steen
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Landeskog - Zetterberg - Nyqvist
Hagelin - Kruger - Hörnqvist

Hjalmarsson - Karlsson
Hedman - Strålman
Ekman Larsson - Klingberg
Lindholm - Brodin

Lundqvist
Enroth
Markström

Lindholm & Brodin above Edler, how come?

 

[Willy Stylez]

Lindholm & Brodin above Edler, how come?

Not the biggest Edler fan to be honest, he's bounced back but i think Lindholm and Brodin is better.
And yeah, Johansson and Söderberg instead of Hagelin and Kruger would look good to! My thought's is to have Kruger and Hags as one PK block that i think would workout better.

 

[LiveeviL]

Not the biggest Edler fan to be honest, he's bounced back but i think Lindholm and Brodin is better.
And yeah, Johansson and Söderberg instead of Hagelin and Kruger would look good to! My thought's is to have Kruger and Hags as one PK block that i think would workout better.

Brodin got a great projection but the curve has flattened out. Both Brodin and Edler got a big responsibility on their teams, much more than Lindholm (really...). Edler on the other hand is the backbone on VAN defence, he have sorted out his game and always get the big minutes and hardest competition. On the phone for some days but it would be nice to look at the corsi for the Swedish D-men along with production. My guess is that Edler is top 5 with both corsi and production taken into account.

 

[VictorLustig]

Brodin and Edler are not really similar players. The biggest argument for Brodin is that he'd likely be a fantastic complement to one of our offensive star D. Edler is more of an allround D who could be used in a lot of ways, even on the PP if we need a heavy shot there.

 

[Willy Stylez]

Brodin got a great projection but the curve has flattened out. Both Brodin and Edler got a big responsibility on their teams, much more than Lindholm (really...). Edler on the other hand is the backbone on VAN defence, he have sorted out his game and always get the big minutes and hardest competition. On the phone for some days but it would be nice to look at the corsi for the Swedish D-men along with production. My guess is that Edler is top 5 with both corsi and production taken into account.

Edler has been good for the Nucks this year, nice to see him bounce back. My top 6 D's i don't think will change unless injury's, and for the last two spot's for me Brodin is a lock.
I like Lindholms IQ and mobility against Edlers size and better shot, he's been good for Sweden though.

 

[Nordic*]

Team Sweden

First of all, I think that the World Cup is a joke tournament - especially with the Euro and U-23 team, or whatever the age limit is.

Team Sweden is at a point where many of the stars of the past are too old and the young future stars, are too young. We could probably ice a pretty good team anyway.

Landeskog-Backström-Forsberg

Sedin-Sedin-Eriksson

Steen-Zetterberg-Nyquist

Rakell-Wennberg-Silfverberg


Hedman-Karlsson

OEL-Larsson

Hjalmarsson-Klingberg

Lundqvist
Enroth
Markström
​

Sure, Silfverberg has been horrible, but he will turn it around at some point. And he's still really good defensively.

Rakell is probably the best forward in Anaheim this season, but sadly he doesn't have the points to show for it. Wennberg, after starting really slow, has turned it up and is almost ppg the last 15 games or so. Looks great.

No real fourth-line, just four two-way lines.

Lindholm could take Klingberg's spot, as we already have great offensive defencemen.

Who am I missing?

 

[jfc64]

First of all, I think that the World Cup is a joke tournament - especially with the Euro and U-23 team, or whatever the age limit is.

Team Sweden is at a point where many of the stars of the past are too old and the young future stars, are too young. We could probably ice a pretty good team anyway.

Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson........Steen - Bäckström - Forsberg........Zetterberg - Zibanejad - Landeskog........Rakell - Söderberg - Berglund........

Hedman - Karlsson................Ekman Larsson - Edler..................Hjalmarsson - Grossmann.......................Lindholm - Backlund...........

Lundqvist
Enroth
Ullmark​

Sure, Silfverberg has been horrible, but he will turn it around at some point. And he's still really good defensively.

Rakell is probably the best forward in Anaheim this season, but sadly he doesn't have the points to show for it. Wennberg, after starting really slow, has turned it up and is almost ppg the last 15 games or so. Looks great.

No real fourth-line, just four two-way lines.

Lindholm could take Klingberg's spot, as we already have great offensive defencemen.

Who am I missing?

Mika Zibanejad!

Two inexperienced guys on the fourth line is one too many imo.

The "old" factor could be dealt with giving Zetterberg a more defensive role and two speedy players beside him:

Zetterberg - Zibanejad - Landezcog!

Rakell - Berglund - Silfverberg??

 

[ulvvf]

First of all, I think that the World Cup is a joke tournament - especially with the Euro and U-23 team, or whatever the age limit is.

Team Sweden is at a point where many of the stars of the past are too old and the young future stars, are too young. We could probably ice a pretty good team anyway.

Landeskog-Backström-Forsberg

Sedin-Sedin-Eriksson

Steen-Zetterberg-Nyquist

Rakell-Wennberg-Silfverberg


Hedman-Karlsson

OEL-Larsson

Hjalmarsson-Klingberg

Lundqvist
Enroth
Markström
​

Sure, Silfverberg has been horrible, but he will turn it around at some point. And he's still really good defensively.

Rakell is probably the best forward in Anaheim this season, but sadly he doesn't have the points to show for it. Wennberg, after starting really slow, has turned it up and is almost ppg the last 15 games or so. Looks great.

No real fourth-line, just four two-way lines.

Lindholm could take Klingberg's spot, as we already have great offensive defencemen.

Who am I missing?

I wouldnt go with Wennberg, Larsson, Hjalmarsson, Silfverberg, otherwise I would agree pretty much.

We have many better centers then Wennberg (Bäckström, Sedin, Söderberg, Rask, Zibanejad, Zetterberg, Backlund etc), I have not been impresse by him yet. But I also havent watch that many columbus games this season.

I love Silfverberg, but as you said, he has been horrible this season. IF he get his game going sure maybe, but that is a big IF, and you can say that about every player. And all our forwards are good defensivly and can play in PK if needed, no point in taking out player just for that. Unless they have some good history to lean back on they have to preform this season I think.

Larsson? Every time I watch Jersey I think he looks very uncomfortable out there and do not impresse me at all. If you want big guys, I would go with Edler. I try to see this defense beast in Larsson, but I just do not see it yet.

Hjalmarsson? I think there are better alternatives simple, Strålman, Edler, Brodin, Lindholm etc.

Well maybe missed Rask, Söderberg, Edler and Brodin mostly.

I agree about Rakell. He plays kind of like a "junior player" with a lot of energy, but is also very skillfull, that I think would be usefull in the team. Has a good shoot and makes good plays and can create offensive pressure on his own, many of his goals is one man shows. In a kind of depressing anahiem this year he has been a positive thing, I think he will soon start to put up a lot more points if he keeps this play up. He is fun to watch.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Silfverberg has only 1 good playoff, other than that, he has not been good at all. Not good in olympics and WCH either.

 

[EK47]

Not sure about Zibanejad.. Statistically solid this year but he doesn't pass the 'eye-test' he looks slow and out of shape, the skill is evident whenever he has a little bit of space with the puck on his stick unfortunately that doesn't really happen much in the NHL, probably even less in the World Cup.

 

[VictorLustig]

Not sure about Zibanejad.. Statistically solid this year but he doesn't pass the 'eye-test' he looks slow and out of shape, the skill is evident whenever he has a little bit of space with the puck on his stick unfortunately that doesn't really happen much in the NHL, probably even less in the World Cup.

Agree. He's not as good as his numbers would indicate. To me he's not even in the discussion really.

 

[Chimpradamus]

Who will be the Swedish coach in this Mickey Mouse profit version of Canada Cup btw? The same guy that failed with the juniors?

 

[VictorLustig]

Who will be the Swedish coach in this Mickey Mouse profit version of Canada Cup btw? The same guy that failed with the juniors?

Yes, because he's such a good in-game coach.

 

[ulvvf]

Even if we probabaly will have a lot better team on paper then in the olympics (when we at the end of the tournament didnt have a elite center), I think we can be ruled out when it comes to win the tournament with this coach. There is no word for how big of a joke it is that he gets promoted when him if anyone should get fired.

It have to be some individuals that really cares the team for us to stand a chance, because Grönborg will be our biggest oppnent.