World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Sweden

[Chimpradamus]

As long as he doesn't follow Swedish coaching tradition and picks their favourites from SEL. At least then half the battle is won.

Every tournament, they bring in some schmucks who are clearly a level behind. Like in 2010, sticking frigging Weinhandl with the Sedins and refused to move up Franzén from the 4th line, even though he was pouring in goals. With 10 minutes left of the QF against Slovakia, the idiot starting stirring things up, about 3 games too late. And B-Å leaving Holmström (among others) out of the lineup, while bringing Rhodin and Hannula. Luckily for him, there were injuries (as always it seems).

Why is it so hard to get a quality coach in Swedish hockey, who just does the obvious? I know I sound like an armchair general, but how pathetic isn't it when Swedish fans have more track of Swedish NHL players than their actual coaching department?

If they bring in some SEL schmucks as tradition asks, I'll lose it. Or maybe I just shouldn't be surprised.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Landeskog-Backström-Forsberg

Sedin-Sedin-Eriksson

Steen-Zetterberg-Nyquist

Hörnqvist-Söderberg-Johansson


Hedman-Karlsson

OEL-Strålman

Hjalmarsson-Klingberg

Lundqvist
Enroth
Gustavsson

 

[Eye of Ra]

As long as he doesn't follow Swedish coaching tradition and picks their favourites from SEL. At least then half the battle is won.

Every tournament, they bring in some schmucks who are clearly a level behind. Like in 2010, sticking frigging Weinhandl with the Sedins and refused to move up Franzén from the 4th line, even though he was pouring in goals. With 10 minutes left of the QF against Slovakia, the idiot starting stirring things up, about 3 games too late. And B-Å leaving Holmström (among others) out of the lineup, while bringing Rhodin and Hannula. Luckily for him, there were injuries (as always it seems).

Why is it so hard to get a quality coach in Swedish hockey, who just does the obvious? I know I sound like an armchair general, but how pathetic isn't it when Swedish fans have more track of Swedish NHL players than their actual coaching department?

If they bring in some SEL schmucks as tradition asks, I'll lose it. Or maybe I just shouldn't be surprised.

Jimmie Ericsson, Joel Lundqvist, Staffan Kronwall.....

 

[EK47]

Jimmie Ericsson, Joel Lundqvist, Staffan Kronwall.....

Nicklas Danielsson...

 

[canswetoxic]

Jimmie Ericsson, Joel Lundqvist, Staffan Kronwall.....

oh gosh not them again.
NHL rink, all should be from NHL, but you will never guess what Gränborg will do.
We are doomed

 

[VictorLustig]

Oduya, Jonathan Ericsson & Grossman ska ut i strid!

 

[Chimpradamus]

Jimmie Ericsson, Joel Lundqvist, Staffan Kronwall.....

Nicklas Danielsson...

Tallinder and... no, I cannot... continue. Where is the barf smiley? Why is it so infinitely difficult to bring the best players to a tournament for a Swedish coach? Do they use Text-TV as the highest instrument of information?

Watch this idiot pull half of the players from SEL.

 

[EK47]

Oduya, Jonathan Ericsson & Grossman ska ut i strid!

Syria it is then!

 

[Nordic*]

Silfverberg has only 1 good playoff, other than that, he has not been good at all. Not good in olympics and WCH either.

Silfverberg was great the last 40 games before the playoffs too. Perhaps he didn't have the points to show for it, but if you watched Anaheim pretty much every game like me, you'd know how great he was. Used to shut down the other team's top line while hemming them in their own zone most of the game. Have no idea why he's noticeably slower, weaker and "dumber" this season. He did get concussed in the pre-season, that might be it..

Not sure about Zibanejad.. Statistically solid this year but he doesn't pass the 'eye-test' he looks slow and out of shape, the skill is evident whenever he has a little bit of space with the puck on his stick unfortunately that doesn't really happen much in the NHL, probably even less in the World Cup.

Same with Zib, but reversed as opposed to Silfver. He has good stats, but brings very little in terms of on rink dominance. He has the build to be able to dominate physically, but plays a very timid game. He has the shot to be a great scorer, but rarely use it or get in a position to use it. He has huge amounts of raw talent, but doesn't show any out it. Kind of depressing. He had better streaks of games 2 years ago than he has now.

 

[Nordic*]

And about Rakell. He is the one thing making Getzlaf and Perry work this season, he's the best player on that line. And no, I'm not kidding. Ask any fan of Anaheim and they'll tell you the same. He's one of those players creating a lot, but don't neccessarily get any points out of it.

Just look at his last game against the Jets. Aside from his goal, just watch this sequence.. Start watching at about 2:40.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlg=20152016,2,582&lang=en

 

[TheTwelfth]

If they bring in some SEL schmucks as tradition asks, I'll lose it. Or maybe I just shouldn't be surprised.

I say the opposite: Only bring SHL players in contempt of this farce of a tournament.

 

[MrOT]

Steen - Bäckström - Forsberg
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Nyqvist - Zetterberg - Landeskog
Lindholm - Zinbanejad - Hagelin
Xtra - M. Johansson/V. Rask/C. Söderberg/A. Burakovsky (Not Silfverberg!)

Karlsson - Kronwall
Hedman - Strålman
Hjalmarsson - OEL
Brodin - Klingberg

Lundqvist
Lehner
Läck

 

[MrOT]

Forsberg - Backström - Steen
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Landeskog - Zetterberg - Nyqvist
Hagelin - Kruger - Hörnqvist

Hjalmarsson - Karlsson
Hedman - Strålman
Ekman Larsson - Klingberg
Lindholm - Brodin

Lundqvist
Enroth
Markström

Crazy, I just wrote the three top lines exactly as you did! And the D about the same, maybe your´s even better actually, I thought Kronwall would be perfect for Karlsson but looking at him this season... maybe not. Past prime. Is Hjalmarsson sure enough on the puck to "play ball" with EK?

 

[TheTwelfth]

Not caring about this tournament, but people are overlooking Adam Larsson a lot. He is a solid top-pairing guy, and is a RHD. He and OEL worked perfectly when they were paired on the WJC-level and should be a solid pairing for team Sweden for years to come.

Olympics 2018 defence:

Hjalmarsson - Karlsson
Hedman - Strålman
Ekman-Larsson - Larsson
Brodin - Klingberg

Sweden has been painfully lacking of good RHD for generations. We now have four great ones, and should not handicap the team by not having handedness in consideration.

Also, for you who care about the Wold Cup: No chance Kronwall is left out barring an injury/decline from his side. Loyalty and the leadership from the Olympics will be rewarded by the federation.

 

[aphyro]

Not caring about this tournament, but people are overlooking Adam Larsson a lot. He is a solid top-pairing guy, and is a RHD. He and OEL worked perfectly when they were paired on the WJC-level and should be a solid pairing for team Sweden for years to come.

Olympics 2018 defence:

Hjalmarsson - Karlsson
Hedman - Strålman
Ekman-Larsson - Larsson
Brodin - Klingberg

Sweden has been painfully lacking of good RHD for generations. We now have four great ones, and should not handicap the team by not having handedness in consideration.

Also, for you who care about the Wold Cup: No chance Kronwall is left out barring an injury/decline from his side. Loyalty and the leadership from the Olympics will be rewarded by the federation.

Wow i think Sweden has a verry big shot at the gold medal 2018

 

[Nordic*]

Steen - Bäckström - Forsberg
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Nyqvist - Zetterberg - Landeskog
Lindholm - Zinbanejad - Hagelin
Xtra - M. Johansson/V. Rask/C. Söderberg/A. Burakovsky (Not Silfverberg!)

Karlsson - Kronwall
Hedman - Strålman
Hjalmarsson - OEL
Brodin - Klingberg

Lundqvist
Lehner
Läck

Red:ed hasn't been anywhere close to good enough to crack a Swedish national team. Not even for a joke tournament like this.

Rakell is easily better than all of these.

 

[ulvvf]

When it comes to SHL players I think it is because they want to marketing SHL, so do not only blame the coach there, blame the fed.

One of the worse thing I think MÃ¥rts did was when he said, that he do not stay up and watch NHL hockey. Sure he could record it and watch it during the day, but that was not the impression he gave. What is more importent for a coach between the tournaments than scouting the players? So it should be his job to watch far more NHL hockey than any of us.

I think the coaches simple watch and follow NHL to little, MÃ¥rts gave the impression he wasnt even aware of Hedman big breakout before the olympics. So that is one thing I want to change, I want a coach that follow NHL very much every day, to really get a good view of the players. I got the feeling that they basically just watch them when they on a roadtrip to NA, that is not even close to be enough.

 

[ulvvf]

Not caring about this tournament, but people are overlooking Adam Larsson a lot. He is a solid top-pairing guy, and is a RHD. He and OEL worked perfectly when they were paired on the WJC-level and should be a solid pairing for team Sweden for years to come.

Olympics 2018 defence:

Hjalmarsson - Karlsson
Hedman - Strålman
Ekman-Larsson - Larsson
Brodin - Klingberg

Sweden has been painfully lacking of good RHD for generations. We now have four great ones, and should not handicap the team by not having handedness in consideration.

Also, for you who care about the Wold Cup: No chance Kronwall is left out barring an injury/decline from his side. Loyalty and the leadership from the Olympics will be rewarded by the federation.

I agree, WC is a joke, but what can you do. NHL control hockey, so you take what you get. You do not know if NHL will let the players go to olympics and if nothing else it is good to let players gather more often then once every 4th year, hard to play togheter a team during a few days every 4th year.

Larsson? I can see many others have him in there team, pretty much only me that is not a huge fan of him. He do not pass my limit demand on puck and skating skills.

Kronwall? Yes he will probabaly be there no matter what.

 

[EK47]

When it comes to SHL players I think it is because they want to marketing SHL, so do not only blame the coach there, blame the fed.

One of the worse thing I think MÃ¥rts did was when he said, that he do not stay up and watch NHL hockey. Sure he could record it and watch it during the day, but that was not the impression he gave. What is more importent for a coach between the tournaments than scouting the players? So it should be his job to watch far more NHL hockey than any of us.

I think the coaches simple watch and follow NHL to little, MÃ¥rts gave the impression he wasnt even aware of Hedman big breakout before the olympics. So that is one thing I want to change, I want a coach that follow NHL very much every day, to really get a good view of the players. I got the feeling that they basically just watch them when they on a roadtrip to NA, that is not even close to be enough.

They won't bring any SHL players I will bet you 100 crowns. It simply won't cut it this time

 

[jfc64]

Not sure about Zibanejad.. Statistically solid this year but he doesn't pass the 'eye-test' he looks slow and out of shape, the skill is evident whenever he has a little bit of space with the puck on his stick unfortunately that doesn't really happen much in the NHL, probably even less in the World Cup.

But 101 kg...kom igen kompis?.... if he lose one or two kilo the speed might reappear? Don't think he dare to live at McD at this point of his career. Must be a long term plan with managements good mind (goda minne).

Clearly (and statistically) we have some players on the bubble who, who one year from now might be seen like obvious choices. Just that we don't know yet who that will be. Rakell might slow his production down to zero (Silfverberg) if he switch position with him. Lindholm, the biggest talent is even behind Rask stats wise but might work just fine with Zetterberg and Bäckström. Forsberg has slowed down but might be seen as a pure rocket scientist with Ryan Johansen soon.

And maybe Wennberg might be the ideal fourth line center, big, hard working, with ability to shadow opponents top players and who can chip in offensively when given the chance.


Extremely 'cold' right now?

Lindberg
Janmark
Burakovsky
Nyquist

 

[jfc64]

I say the opposite: Only bring SHL players in contempt of this farce of a tournament.

This will bring out the swedish underdog facing the U23 Yankee-Canadick-team:

Steen - Lundqvist - Rödin
Lindström - Söderberg - Silfverberg (pretty much winning the Guldpucken qualifies for a spot on this team)
Lindberg - Sundqvist - Ericsson
Omark - Rask - Lindholm
Järnkrok

Ekholm - Hedman (Guldpucken)
Gustafsson - Andersén
Kronwall - Ahnelöv
Claesson - Rundblad

Fasth (soon to win the Guldpucken again)
Nilsson

 

[ulvvf]

But 101 kg...kom igen kompis?.... if he lose one or two kilo the speed might reappear? Don't think he dare to live at McD at this point of his career. Must be a long term plan with managements good mind (goda minne).

Clearly (and statistically) we have some players on the bubble who, one year from now, seem like an obvious choice. Just that we don't know yet who that will be. Rakell might slow his production down to zero (Silfverberg) if he switch position with him. Lindholm, the biggest talent is even behind Rask stats wise but might work just fine with Zetterberg and Bäckström. Forsberg has slowed down but might be seen as a pure rocket scientist with Ryan Johansen soon.

And maybe Wennberg might be the ideal fourth line center, big, hard working, with ability to shadow opponents top players and who can chip in offensively when given the chance.


Extremely 'cold' right now?

Lindberg
Janmark
Burakovsky
Nyquist

Forsberg do pass the eye test if you ask me and he was great in WHC, our best player togheter with Klingberg and OEL.

Wennberg and Lindholm, they feel like meh players. Sure they are good defensivly, but which one among our forwards are not good defensivly? besides, what is the point with special shutdown players anyway? That maybe is usefull when the oppents mostly just have one good line to worry about, but that will not be the case.

Wennberg and Lindholm may have the talent, but my problem with them is that they seems to be to shy. They do not seem to want to take the matter in their own hands and do something risky, they seem to hold on to the stick to hard and are to scared of failure. Wennberg has a good stretch and with Johansen gone I guess he will se even more ice-time, we will see what that is going.

Rakell, points or no points, I agree with those that say that he pass the eye test.

Yes Zibanejad should probabaly lose weight, do not think it do him a favor. The game is more about speed than about size.

Janmark extremly cold? He has 4p in his last 6 games, I never expecting him to be a superstar. I think he do more than ok consider my expections of him. He is a solid a NHL player.

 

[Hockeyfrilla]

Alex Edler getting underrated by swedish fans!

 

[Tomas W]

Red:ed hasn't been anywhere close to good enough to crack a Swedish national team. Not even for a joke tournament like this.

Rakell is easily better than all of these.

Rickety Rack is a bit new on the big stage. If he can keep up his play or maybe even better, then he got a chance to be on the team.

 

[TheTwelfth]

This will bring out the swedish underdog facing the U23 Yankee-Canadick-team:

Steen - Lundqvist - Rödin
Lindström - Söderberg - Silfverberg (pretty much winning the Guldpucken qualifies for a spot on this team)
Lindberg - Sundqvist - Ericsson
Omark - Rask - Lindholm
Järnkrok

Ekholm - Hedman (Guldpucken)
Gustafsson - Andersén
Kronwall - Ahnelöv
Claesson - Rundblad

Fasth (soon to win the Guldpucken again)
Nilsson

I assume you mean S.Kronwall and O.Hedman (brother of Guldpucken winner counts??)