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World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Sweden Part II

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Before the Mickey Mouse tournament starts, I expect about 5 more players to miss the tournament. It's just a natural law that many Swedish players are injured when there's an international tournament.

I don't care how the team performs either way.
 
SAUCERPASS said:
This is 2015-2016..
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Toews as number 2 just shows how much of a joke that list are and how extremly biased they are towards canadians.
 
slobbergob said:
You busted out the raw, context-free pt totals. That's it, you win. Why settle at 5th or even 3rd? Sequin just came off a pretty serious injury. Far to assume he may not be the same player he was (like Karlsson), may as well push Backstrom up to 2nd.

Crosby? pfft. Glorified grinder. How many 60 goal scorers are a product of Crosby's passing? None. Ovi is a direct reflection on the generational passing ability of Backstrom, the GOAT.

Happy?
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I gave facts, and you gave a immature reply.
 
Cogsbreakaway said:
There's generation gap among forwards. The old stars are over the hill and the future stars are not yet in their prime.

You're kidding yourselves if you think that Sweden will reach the final.
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I agree, apart from the D this team is rather weak IMO. Sedins and Zetterberg on decline, Steen out with an injury. I don't think this team has what it takes to get to the final.
 
Steen was pretty medicore in olympics and then he was really hot in NHL.. Rakell, Nyquist or Zibanejad is just as good

Swedens problem is to much death meat like, Kronwall, Strålman, Hörnqvist and Kruger.
 
About Steen injured:


Let's get younger and a few pounds heavier!

Patrik Berglund!

(but it will be Marcus Johansson) ... Our footsoldiers all make dough nowadays.
 
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LeafalCrusader said:
So who takes Steen's spot? Nyquist?
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I think Nyquist would be the next BPA, but I think it depends on how they were planning to use Steen. He is such a versatile player, can play anywhere from 1 to 4th line and both winger and center. Nyquist on the other hand is exclusively an offensive winger. I could see them select someone like Backlund or Berglund instead
 
Seiza said:
I agree, apart from the D this team is rather weak IMO. Sedins and Zetterberg on decline, Steen out with an injury. I don't think this team has what it takes to get to the final.
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Anyone's got the chance to vinnit. You got to this thread for example! ;)
 
Rakell, please.

Sedin - Sedin - Loui
Landeskog - Bäckström - Forsberg
Rakell - Söderberg - Silfverberg
Hagelin - Zetterberg - Hörnqvist
 
Marcus Johansson, Nyquist or Rakell. I am ok with any of them. Steen has leadership, but this team got lots of it anyway, I do not see this as a problem as long as the replacement is anyone of the above.

So can't Kronwall do some surgery too? There are many D-men ahead of him on most people's lists.
 
Hmm, let's say its Nyquist I could see the lines something like this:

Forsberg - Bäckström - Hörnqvist
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Hagelin - Zetterberg - Nyquist
Landeskog - Krüger - Silfverberg
Söderberg
 
Rakell looked amazing before his appendix surgery. Also versatile, can play both centre and winger.

But it's almost a dead heat between him, Zibanejad, Berglund and Johansson.

Having said that, Nyqvist probably gets the nod.

Would rather try Nylander since it's a joke tourny anyway.


Btw.

I'm 99.9% sure that Silfverberg and Hagelin will play on the same line, shutting down other team's top line.

Unless it's Canada, who has 4 top lines, haha..
 
Nyqvist will take Steen's place, anything else would be a huge surprise imo.

Berglund could be considered as he is also good on the wing, Backlund as C will probably not be considered except as a replacement for another C.

Zib, I don't think he should be on the team for the simple reason that he has made a habit of coming into TC out of shape. This year he is apparently (allegedly) taking things more seriously and doing his summer training in Ottawa. That's great, and it hopefully works since I think he is one of the most interesting SWE players going forward, but I would not take the chance of having a out-of-shape Zib on the roster in the WC.
 
ulvvf said:
You say you do not have anything personal against him, but still you mention players like Toews and bergeron ahead of him? Come on, they are not even close. Stamkos was better a few years ago, but not today. Bäckström has better stats from the last seasons than most of those you mention, and I do notice that most of them are canadians. Btw, he also had better stats in olympics than all of the players you mention (among those that played)

In scoring among centers the last 4 seasons.

Bäckström
7th
3th
6th
9th


Compare to

Giroux
10
6
3
7

Stamkos
11
7
60
1

Getzlaf
12
12
2
5

Kopitar
5
17
10
15

Bergeron
9
27
19
28

Toews
26
14
12
8

Malkin
24
11
8
26

Statswise he is clearly ahead of most of them, the only one that really come close i Giroux, and do not come and bring up defense, because Bäckström is hardly weak defensivly. But still you almost laughs at the idea of him being mention togheter with this players, and you do not have anything personal against. Hmm.

He has stats that shows that he is a top 5 center. The only ones I say is clearly ahead of him, is Crosby and Sequin.
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Seguin and Malkin are both definitely ahead of Backstrom. Look at PPG if you need proof, both missed significant time this year but were still much better than Backstrom in the matches they played.

Didn't Kuznetsov outplay Backstrom on his own team? Backstrom is good, but not a top 10 center in the NHL, IMO.
 
Wings4Life said:
Seguin and Malkin are both definitely ahead of Backstrom. Look at PPG if you need proof, both missed significant time this year but were still much better than Backstrom in the matches they played.

Didn't Kuznetsov outplay Backstrom on his own team? Backstrom is good, but not a top 10 center in the NHL, IMO.
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Sequin I maybe agree on, even if Sequin hasnt done anything internationally yet, but not the other ones.

Kuznetsov have one season where he has more points and where he totally disapered in the playoffs and was also a failure in whc as well. So no Kuzenetsov is not ahead of him. Malkin maybe would be, but as you said, he has been to injury phrone this last years. PPG? Then Zacha is the best center in NHL this season. The games has to be played as well. But I agree a healthy Malkin is probably better.

Bäckström is pretty easily top 10, he could be mention in top 3 even. Look at the facts, if you want ignore them just because you do not fancy Bäckström, then that says more about you then him.

Please mention 10 centers that have a better record than him the last years.

His record is in scoring among centers

7th
3th
6th
9th


No matter how you want to turn it, Bäckström is easily top 10, and it wouldnt have been a debate if he had been a canadian.
 
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LaGu said:
Nyqvist will take Steen's place, anything else would be a huge surprise imo.

Berglund could be considered as he is also good on the wing, Backlund as C will probably not be considered except as a replacement for another C.

Zib, I don't think he should be on the team for the simple reason that he has made a habit of coming into TC out of shape. This year he is apparently (allegedly) taking things more seriously and doing his summer training in Ottawa. That's great, and it hopefully works since I think he is one of the most interesting SWE players going forward, but I would not take the chance of having a out-of-shape Zib on the roster in the WC.
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Our defense is soft so I don't think Nyquist is prioritized. Marcus Johansson brings more size to the lineup. Also goes well with Bäckström (and Forsberg I imagine, but maybe everyone does, except Landeskog).

Garpenlöv mentioned we might have a line that brings the puck into offensive zone. Here I Imagine Landeskog, Hagelin, Zetterberg and Karlsson are the ones to make it.

LAst: One of Rakell, Z-bad, Rask, Lindholm etc will have a breakout soon. If we can anticipate who there will be one more player on our team.
 
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Wings4Life said:
Seguin and Malkin are both definitely ahead of Backstrom. Look at PPG if you need proof, both missed significant time this year but were still much better than Backstrom in the matches they played.

Didn't Kuznetsov outplay Backstrom on his own team? Backstrom is good, but not a top 10 center in the NHL, IMO.
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Together with Ekman-Larsson, Karlsson and Hedman he is :)

Seguin? = "Skuggan" Nilsson
 
ulvvf said:
Sequin I maybe agree on, even if Sequin hasnt done anything internationally yet, but not the other ones.
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Oh. The irony when I've seen a couple of times swedish posters here bashing Backstrom (I don't recall, but maybe even you?) for his international play - while Seguin scored 9 goals in 10 games at the 2015 golden world championships where he was the best goal-scorer of the tournament.
 
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