How is the defence soft? If you mean that they don't hit that much, then it is true for all but OEL. But I would not say that they are soft in other respects of the game.
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How is the defence soft? If you mean that they don't hit that much, then it is true for all but OEL. But I would not say that they are soft in other respects of the game.
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Backström has never been bad internationally. Best player by quite a bit at the Vancouver olympics, some people don't like him for always skipping the WC.
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Johansson? size? He'd probably be our softest forward. Speed and some skill is what he would bring.
Sorry forget that, but I do not get why you focus on Seguin in my post, sense I said I think he is better. Why not focus on giving 10 center that have a better record than him, I think you will have a really hard time finding much more than 3 that you can possible say have a better record than him. Heck mention 1 single canadian that has better stats than him that you do not think is a top 10 center.
That swedish people are probably the ones that hate swedish offensive gifted players the most is nothing new, they want their worthless Kruger that can not do anything right.
Bäckström has been great internationally, 10p in 9 games in 2 olympics (is ovechkin swedish? because how can he score points without ovechkin? it is almost like he is one of the best centers in the world, and how is that possible when he is not canadian, so no for no specific reason he is not a top 10 center despite he has better stats than almost every center and his team won the president trophy with a landeslide). After Karlsson he was the biggest reason to why we reach finals in the olympics, the reason togeheter with Karlsson why we had a good PP.
Johansson is bigger than Nyquist and there are several forwards on this team that hits less than him. He also plays both center and wing and has good chemistry with Bäckström on the PP. I still think they'll choose Nyquist though.
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What? He finish his checks. Not many swedish players do that. He is far from soft.
With "soft" I don't mean anything you have to be ashamed of at gymnastics class. Lite kärringaktigt är det i alla fall
"Skurgummorna" Kronwall, Strålman and OEL.With Hedman, Ekholm and Hjalmarsson you might think we are well set physically.
Karlsson, Ekman-Larsson, Kronwall, Strålman are probably what fastpaced modern hockey is about. Wonder, though, if 90 kg Lindholm had to bend over for 98 kg Ekholm at nomination.
However, our players weigh less than the americans and our 2006 team etc. So. it will be interresting if we play the americans, if our offense will find ways around the meat wall. The point is we MUST play offensive and fast because our defense is... "softer" (including faster, skilled) ... Ekholm and Hjalmarsson are not soft, though. I only say that we as a team is vulnerable. The americans might be, too, when Landeskog, Hagelin, Erik Karlsson and Marcus Johansson come flying. Hedman might be a wallbreaker. Zetterberg a defensive leader.
Dancing defense!
SWE
Victor Hedman 198 101 kg L
Mattias Ekholm 192 98 L
Oliver Ekman Larsson 187 91 L
Niklas Hjalmarsson 187 89 L
Niklas Kronwall 182 88 L
Erik Karlsson 182 87 R
Anton Strålman 184 86 R
USA
Dustin Byfuglien 195 118 - Victor Hedman 198 101 L (-17 kg compared to counterpart)
Erik Johnson 193 105 R - Mattias Ekholm 192 98 L (-7)
Jack Johnson 185 104 L - Oliver Ekman Larsson 187 91 L (-13)
John Carlson 190 98 R - Niklas Hjalmarsson 187 89 L (-9)
Ryan McDonagh 185 97 L - Niklas Kronwall 182 88 L (-9)
Matt Niskanen 183 91 R - Erik Karlsson 182 87 R (-4)
Ryan Suter 185 91 L - Anton Strålman 184 86 R (-5)
CAN
Shea Weber 193 107 R - Victor Hedman 198 101 L (-6)
Brent Burns 195 104 R - Mattias Ekholm 192 98 L (-6)
Jake Muzzin 190 97 L - Oliver Ekman Larsson 187 91 L (-6)
Marc-Édouard Vlasic 185 93 L - Niklas Hjalmarsson 187 89 L (-4)
Alex Pietrangelo 191 91 R - Niklas Kronwall 182 88 L (-3)
Drew Doughty 185 88 R - Erik Karlsson 182 87 R (-1)
Duncan Keith 185 87 L - Anton Strålman 184 86 R (-1)
RUS
Alexei Yemelin 186 98 L - Victor Hedman 198 101 L (+3)
Alexei Marchenko 189 95 R - Mattias Ekholm 192 98 L (+3)
Dmitri Orlov 181 95 L - Oliver Ekman Larsson 187 91 L (-4)
Dmitri Kulikov 184 93 L - Niklas Hjalmarsson 187 89 L (-4)
Andrei Markov 183 89 L - Niklas Kronwall 182 88 L (-1)
Nikita Zaitsev 189 89 R - Erik Karlsson 182 87 R (-2)
Vyacheslav Voynov 182 88 R - Anton Strålman 184 86 R (-2)
KID
Aaron Ekblad 193 98 R - Victor Hedman 198 101 L (3)
Morgan Rielly 185 98 L - Mattias Ekholm 192 98 L (0)
Colton Parayko 196 97 R - Oliver Ekman Larsson 187 91 L (-6)
Seth Jones 193 94 R - Niklas Hjalmarsson 187 89 L (-5)
Ryan Murray 185 94 L - Niklas Kronwall 182 88 L (-6)
Jacob Trouba 189 92 R - Erik Karlsson 182 87 R (-7)
Shayne Gostisbehere 180 73 L - Anton Strålman 184 86 R (+13)
GUL
Mattias Öhlund 192 106 L - Victor Hedman 198 101 kg L (-5)
Ronnie Sundin 186 100 L - Mattias Ekholm 192 98 L (-2)
Christian Bäckman 193 95 L - Oliver Ekman Larsson 187 91 L (-4)
Kenny Jönsson 191 94 L - Niklas Hjalmarsson 187 89 L (-5)
Daniel Tjärnqvist 188 91 L - Niklas Kronwall 182 88 L (-3)
Niclas Hävelid 182 91 L - Erik Karlsson 182 87 R (-4)
Niklas Kronwall 182 88 L - Anton Strålman 184 86 R (-2)
Nicklas Lidström 185 86 L
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And he is fast too. Maybe not a killer, like the other two, Bäckström and Forsberg.
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BEWARE of Team Sweden!
You guys will face Lundqvist, one of Erik Karlsson, Ekman-Larsson and Hedman plus one of the Sedins, Bäckström and Zetterberg almost ALL OF THE TIME!
ALL OF THE TIME!!!
You guys will face Lundqvist, one of Erik Karlsson, Ekman-Larsson and Hedman plus one of the Sedins, Bäckström and Zetterberg almost ALL OF THE TIME!
ALL OF THE TIME!!!
He actually is, also in comparison with Swedish D-men left out of the team. There is no justification for him to be on the team.
All of these would be a clearly better choice: Klinberg, Lindholm, Brodin and Larsson. Gunnarsson and Edler would do decent choices in comparison with Kronwall too.
Rate our NHL defenders from 10 (better) to 1 (worse). Alternatively or also, rank them from 1 to a number och your own chosing.
1. Erik Karlsson (D) Ottawa Senators 82 16 66 82 1.00 50 -2
6. John Klingberg (D) Dallas Stars 76 10 48 58 0.76 30 22
9. Oliver Ekman Larsson (D) Arizona Coyotes 75 21 34 55 0.73 96 -6
16. Victor Hedman (D) Tampa Bay Lightning 78 10 37 47 0.60 46 21
23. Viktor Lööv (D) Toronto Maple Leafs 4 0 2 2 0.50 0 4
29. Anton Strålman (D) Tampa Bay Lightning 73 9 25 34 0.47 20 16
30. Mattias Ekholm (D) Nashville Predators 82 8 27 35 0.43 44 14
32. Niklas Kronwall (D) Detroit Red Wings 64 3 23 26 0.41 30 -21
33. Oscar Klefbom (D) Edmonton Oilers 30 4 8 12 0.40 6 -4
35. Alexander Edler (D) Vancouver Canucks 52 6 14 20 0.38 46 -8
39. Hampus Lindholm (D) Anaheim Ducks 80 10 18 28 0.35 40 7
40. Erik Gustafsson (D) Chicago Blackhawks 41 0 14 14 0.34 4 11
43. Niklas Hjalmarsson (D) Chicago Blackhawks 82 2 22 24 0.29 32 13
47. Johnny Oduya (D) Dallas Stars 82 4 17 21 0.26 26 8
51. Tobias Enström (D) Winnipeg Jets 72 2 14 16 0.22 44 8
53. David Rundblad (D) Chicago Blackhawks 9 0 2 2 0.22 6 -2
54. Adam Larsson (D) New Jersey Devils 82 3 15 18 0.22 77 15
55. Jonathan Ericsson (D) Detroit Red Wings 71 3 12 15 0.21 56 2
56. Patrik Nemeth (D) Dallas Stars 38 0 8 8 0.21 14 -1
59. Christian Folin (D) Minnesota Wild 26 0 4 4 0.15 11 -1
60. Viktor Svedberg (D) Chicago Blackhawks 27 2 2 4 0.15 4 -5
61. Carl Gunnarsson (D) St. Louis Blues 72 3 6 9 0.13 31 7
62. Fredrik Claesson (D) Ottawa Senators 16 0 2 2 0.13 2 -6
63. Nicklas Grossmann (D) Arizona Coyotes 58 3 4 7 0.12 24 -3
64. Klas Dahlbeck (D) Arizona Coyotes 71 2 6 8 0.11 28 -5
66. Jonas Brodin (D) Minnesota Wild 68 2 5 7 0.10 18 -5
68. Petter Granberg (D) Nashville Predators 27 0 2 2 0.07 13 1
71. Oliver Kylington (D) Calgary Flames 1 0 0 0 0.00 0 0
72. Gustav Olofsson (D) Minnesota Wild 2 0 0 0 0.00 0 0
1. Erik Karlsson (D) Ottawa Senators 82 16 66 82 1.00 50 -2
6. John Klingberg (D) Dallas Stars 76 10 48 58 0.76 30 22
9. Oliver Ekman Larsson (D) Arizona Coyotes 75 21 34 55 0.73 96 -6
16. Victor Hedman (D) Tampa Bay Lightning 78 10 37 47 0.60 46 21
23. Viktor Lööv (D) Toronto Maple Leafs 4 0 2 2 0.50 0 4
29. Anton Strålman (D) Tampa Bay Lightning 73 9 25 34 0.47 20 16
30. Mattias Ekholm (D) Nashville Predators 82 8 27 35 0.43 44 14
32. Niklas Kronwall (D) Detroit Red Wings 64 3 23 26 0.41 30 -21
33. Oscar Klefbom (D) Edmonton Oilers 30 4 8 12 0.40 6 -4
35. Alexander Edler (D) Vancouver Canucks 52 6 14 20 0.38 46 -8
39. Hampus Lindholm (D) Anaheim Ducks 80 10 18 28 0.35 40 7
40. Erik Gustafsson (D) Chicago Blackhawks 41 0 14 14 0.34 4 11
43. Niklas Hjalmarsson (D) Chicago Blackhawks 82 2 22 24 0.29 32 13
47. Johnny Oduya (D) Dallas Stars 82 4 17 21 0.26 26 8
51. Tobias Enström (D) Winnipeg Jets 72 2 14 16 0.22 44 8
53. David Rundblad (D) Chicago Blackhawks 9 0 2 2 0.22 6 -2
54. Adam Larsson (D) New Jersey Devils 82 3 15 18 0.22 77 15
55. Jonathan Ericsson (D) Detroit Red Wings 71 3 12 15 0.21 56 2
56. Patrik Nemeth (D) Dallas Stars 38 0 8 8 0.21 14 -1
59. Christian Folin (D) Minnesota Wild 26 0 4 4 0.15 11 -1
60. Viktor Svedberg (D) Chicago Blackhawks 27 2 2 4 0.15 4 -5
61. Carl Gunnarsson (D) St. Louis Blues 72 3 6 9 0.13 31 7
62. Fredrik Claesson (D) Ottawa Senators 16 0 2 2 0.13 2 -6
63. Nicklas Grossmann (D) Arizona Coyotes 58 3 4 7 0.12 24 -3
64. Klas Dahlbeck (D) Arizona Coyotes 71 2 6 8 0.11 28 -5
66. Jonas Brodin (D) Minnesota Wild 68 2 5 7 0.10 18 -5
68. Petter Granberg (D) Nashville Predators 27 0 2 2 0.07 13 1
71. Oliver Kylington (D) Calgary Flames 1 0 0 0 0.00 0 0
72. Gustav Olofsson (D) Minnesota Wild 2 0 0 0 0.00 0 0
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1. Karlsson
2. Hedman
3. OEL
4. Klingberg
5. Lindholm
6. Strålman
7. Hjalmarsson
8. Ekholm
9. Edler
10. Larsson
11. Brodin
12. Kronwall
13. Klefbom
14. Enström
15. Oduya
16. Ericsson
17. Gustafsson
18. Grossman
1. Karlsson
2. Hedman
3. OEL
4. Ekholm
5. Hjalmarsson
6. Lindholm
7. Strålman
8. Edler
9. Enström
10. Larsson
11. Klingberg
12. Brodin
13. Kronwall
14. Oduya
15. Klefbom
16. Gunnarsson
17. Ericsson
18. Grossman
Strålman is dead meat? There's no one else in the world I would rather pair with Hedman in a short tournament like this, considering they've played together for years. Even if he didn't have that going for him he's arguably a top 15 defenseman by himself.
Ekholm will have Kronwall's "6th" spot besides Karlsson or OEL. Kronwall is only there as a locker room guy.
The only player I'm really confused about is Krüger. What is he doing on the team over guys like Zibanejad or Backlund? He shouldn't even be sniffing a roster spot as far as I'm concerned.
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Strålman was not very good in the playoff, and I think Hedman played better without him in the playoff. Hopefully he will play a lot better in wc than he did in the playoff.
My guess is that Kronwall will have about the same roll as last olympics. I think last in is rank last, and therefore Ekholm will be the number 7 guy going into the tournament.
It feels like the staff have a crush on chicago.
Strålman returned from a pretty serious injury and only played the last 6 games of the playoffs. I remember he was brilliant in the SCF against the Kings in 2014, so I think his play in this years playoffs had to do with the injury.
I agree what you said about Kronwall though. After seeing an interview with Popovic (I think it was him) I get the feeling the defensive pairings will be:
Hedman-Strålman
Kronwall-Karlsson
OEL-Hjalmarsson
Ekholm
He said Hjalmarsson will play on the right side and that Karlsson would be paired with someone with a lot of experience, implying Kronwall. Unfortunately the staff seems to think experience is more important than ability in this case.
Yeah, Strålman was probably rushed back because Tampa needed him for the playoffs, just like Stamkos was for the final game. If it was the regular season he wouldn't have played.
Reserves for... :
Sedin D - Johansson
Sedin H - Rask?
Eriksson - Johansson
Steen - Johansson
Bäckström - Mamma Mia! Backlund? Zibanejad?
Forsberg - Johansson
Landeskog - Johansson
Söderberg - Berglund
Hörnqvist - Johansson or Rakell? Nyquist?
Hagelin - Johansson
Zetterberg - Zibanejad
Silfverberg - Johansson
Krüger - Johansson or Zibanejad?
Ekholm - Lindholm
Karlsson - Lindholm
Hedman - Lindholm
Strålman - Lindholm
Ekman-Larsson - Lindholm
Hjalmarsson - Lindholm
Kronwall - Lindholm
Goalies? - Enroth?
Sedin D - Johansson
Sedin H - Rask?
Eriksson - Johansson
Steen - Johansson
Bäckström - Mamma Mia! Backlund? Zibanejad?
Forsberg - Johansson
Landeskog - Johansson
Söderberg - Berglund
Hörnqvist - Johansson or Rakell? Nyquist?
Hagelin - Johansson
Zetterberg - Zibanejad
Silfverberg - Johansson
Krüger - Johansson or Zibanejad?
Ekholm - Lindholm
Karlsson - Lindholm
Hedman - Lindholm
Strålman - Lindholm
Ekman-Larsson - Lindholm
Hjalmarsson - Lindholm
Kronwall - Lindholm
Goalies? - Enroth?
Well lol at Lindholm. But D is the only position where we got worthy replacements down the pairs.
I hope for ONE lousy breakthru from someone of our younger players.
"Ska det vara så mycket begärt att få se Rakell eller Lindholm joina världslaget"? Va?
Lindholm not being invited is almost as bad as Hedman being snubbed last Olympics.
He is a tremendous defenceman, already among the very best in the NHL defensively.
He is a tremendous defenceman, already among the very best in the NHL defensively.
I think Klingberg is our next best d-men after Karlsson. I actually have big questions mark over all over our d-men execpt for Karlsson (and Klingberg). But i would have Lindholm on the team, he is a good allround player and is comfortable with the puck, but I remember feeling the same about Hjalmarsson before the olympics and had high hopes on him then, and Lindholm kind of reminds of him (with a bigger upside), but Hjalmarsson was a massive disapointment in the olympics.
Lindholm has no experince from senior internationally hockey and hasnt produced very much in NHL, while Klingberg has preformaded more in NHL and was just outstanding in WHC much better than OEL, that did as he always seem to do so far, being horrible in the big games but great against the inferior teams. While Klingberg really stand out in the big games and completly dominated the ice in the big games like i havnt seen before. To me Klingbergs is the best d-men in the world after Karlsson and Burns. He is such a complete player.
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