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World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Sweden Part II

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Brun0 said:
that mentally is like straight from the soviet union :D

good thing your not the coach for such tournament, because how to build the best team and to find the best role for each player has nothing to do with that.

finland sweden game is 50/50, can go either way


looking at player by player has nothing to do how to build a winning team :)
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I agree with you but your argument is more true for Canada and maybe Russia where you have a ton of high skill players to choose from. In the case of Sweden and Finland, we're limited to what we've got. Finland doesn't have a Selanne and Sweden doesn't have a Sundin.

And about the 50-50 comment... You could say that for every game in this tournament. I would personally give Sweden a small edge over Finland, however, I know full well how competitive the Finns are.
 
I would say 60-40 in favor of Sweden based on the players, but in a single game anything can happen ...
 
Sweden's defence core is head and shoulders above anything they have had in an important tournament before. It compensates for the lack of young and skilled forwards. The D-men got offence which might not compensate for the lack of Sundin-ish/Forsberg-ish players but still make the offence dangerous. The D is at pair with Canada's and that for the first time.

I really can't see Finland/Sweden being a 50/50 affair on paper, no offence. It has never been so in bigger tournaments (still on paper) and it even less so now.
 
From practice

PP1: Karlsson, OEL, Sedin, Sedin, Eriksson

PP2: Strålman, Forsberg, Bäckström, Landeskog, Hörnqvist
 
Sweden is definitely my favorite team after "The Lions" (yep, that's what we call our national hockey team here in Finland). Especially the Swedish defense men are world class. Thumbs up for Swedes.
 
VanSalin said:
Sweden is definitely my favorite team after "The Lions" (yep, that's what we call our national hockey team here in Finland). Especially the Swedish defense men are world class. Thumbs up for Swedes.
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I root for Finland when it is not versus Sweden. Finland can put the team together and win games for sure (that is why I underscored that Sweden has been better on paper in big tournaments, even if they have lost to Finland).
 
Hockeyfrilla said:
From practice

PP1: Karlsson, OEL, Sedin, Sedin, Eriksson

PP2: Strålman, Forsberg, Bäckström, Landeskog, Hörnqvist
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I see Hedman is getting the Cooper treatment, I don't know why he doesn't get the chance on the PP. Sure he doesn't play much PP in Tampa but he's much more used to playing the point than Forsberg/Landeskog. I would rather take out Landeskog and go with Strålman, Hedman, Bäckström, Forsberg, Hörnqvist.
 
TheFatOne said:
Hmm. Rakell is similiar to Steen in terms of playing style.
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Really? I would say they are more the opposite in playstyle. Steen is a silent player while Rakell is more of a energy player with nice hands.
 
MrJonas said:
I see Hedman is getting the Cooper treatment, I don't know why he doesn't get the chance on the PP. Sure he doesn't play much PP in Tampa but he's much more used to playing the point than Forsberg/Landeskog. I would rather take out Landeskog and go with Strålman, Hedman, Bäckström, Forsberg, Hörnqvist.
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I didnt watch the practice, but it is possible that they have 2 players infront of the net, why they otherwize would have both of Landeskog and Hörnqvist in the same PP I do not know.

Why they also do not want to continue the Bäckström/Karlsson combo that was the big bright spot in the olympics is also a bit weird. They focus so much on Sedin/Eriksson success in WHC a couple of years ago but seems to have forgot what took us to the final in the olympics. See no reason why Strålman should be nothing more than a backup in PP.
 
Oh for the Love of... Either split upp Karlsson and Oel on the pp or double team Karlsson don't man the point with strålman when you have a team like this
 
Strange with Hedman not playing PP. Well well. Guess that means Hedman is supposed to play first PK unit.

Of course the PP units can change can they not?
 
Tomas W said:
Strange with Hedman not playing PP. Well well. Guess that means Hedman is supposed to play first PK unit.

Of course the PP units can change can they not?
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Yeah they don't have rules against changing the lines. Probably just trying stuff out to see if it works for the exhibition games
 
Sedin Sedin Eriksson
Oel Karlson

Jesus Christ that PP is ridiculous.
 
I guess the plan for the second PP unit is to have some kind of Washington Capitals copy, where one strategy is to set Forsberg for one-timers. Obviously his one-timer is not like Ovechkin's, but it is still a proper threat. That's why it is good to have RHD at blueline, while Bäckström is trying to set up Forsberg halfboards.
 
ulvvf said:
Really? I would say they are more the opposite in playstyle. Steen is a silent player while Rakell is more of a energy player with nice hands.
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Rakell is either gonna be a stud, or a lot of flash and not a lot of production. Either way it'll be fun to watch him handle the puck.
 
MrJonas said:
I see Hedman is getting the Cooper treatment, I don't know why he doesn't get the chance on the PP. Sure he doesn't play much PP in Tampa but he's much more used to playing the point than Forsberg/Landeskog. I would rather take out Landeskog and go with Strålman, Hedman, Bäckström, Forsberg, Hörnqvist.
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I hate how Hedman is used in Tampa, but I guess their and Sweden's logic here is that they want a right-handed defenceman on the PP.
 
-------- eriksson --------
karlsson h.sedin d.sedin
--------- OEL -----------

--------- hornqvist ------
forsberg landeskog backstrom
--------- stralman ------

Could this be the idea? OEL on point and Karlsson onetimeing it? Sedins on their usual positions and Eriksson the net front presence.

PP2 landeskog and hornqvist the 2 players that cain interchange in front of the goal, backtstrom dishing it from the half boards to stralman on point or to forsbeg in Ovi's house? Might come down to Stralman being a R shot to get the nodd over Hedman.
 
LiveeviL said:
Sweden's defence core is head and shoulders above anything they have had in an important tournament before. It compensates for the lack of young and skilled forwards. The D-men got offence which might not compensate for the lack of Sundin-ish/Forsberg-ish players but still make the offence dangerous. The D is at pair with Canada's and that for the first time.

I really can't see Finland/Sweden being a 50/50 affair on paper, no offence. It has never been so in bigger tournaments (still on paper) and it even less so now.
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To quote the old ski jumping legend Matti Nykänen: "The odds are fifty-sixty"...
 
Sorey said:
But grönborg dont change stuff. He said he dont do tombola on bench.
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He can change stuff before a tournament, but when the actually the tournament has started he bascially never change anything.
 
Fragmuffin said:
-------- eriksson --------
karlsson h.sedin d.sedin
--------- OEL -----------

--------- hornqvist ------
forsberg landeskog backstrom
--------- stralman ------

Could this be the idea? OEL on point and Karlsson onetimeing it? Sedins on their usual positions and Eriksson the net front presence.

PP2 landeskog and hornqvist the 2 players that cain interchange in front of the goal, backtstrom dishing it from the half boards to stralman on point or to forsbeg in Ovi's house? Might come down to Stralman being a R shot to get the nodd over Hedman.
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Karlsson will no doubt play as much PP as he likes, so when/if he steps off the ice with 20-30 seconds left Strålman can smoothly fit in. Diamond formation sounds about right, but I think that particular formation will be very mobile. Karlsson likely stays at the blueline, OEL roams.

I think Backs is playing with Forsberg for that reason, most similar to Washington. Not really sure about the reasoning of Hörnqvist and Landeskog on the same unit, but I guess Landeskog will play down low in Johansson's spot while Hörnqvist plays straight in front of the net.

--------- Hörnqvist ------ Landeskog
Forsberg ----------------- Bäckström
----- Karlsson/Strålman
 
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