World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Sweden Part II

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you guys are just next to Canada in my books. and after that last fiasco in whc I wish you guys all the best. you probably have the best D in tournament I'm bit worried about your offense though. and the king wasn't really good in playoffs hopefully he has found his strive for the coming season. all the best to you from Finland. :yo:
 
you guys are just next to Canada in my books. and after that last fiasco in whc I wish you guys all the best. you probably have the best D in tournament I'm bit worried about your offense though. and the king wasn't really good in playoffs hopefully he has found his strive for the coming season. all the best to you from Finland. :yo:

And all the best from Sweden! You guys will have real chance against the kids!! Team play! Donskoi - Pokka-Pakka - Lindell and Aho. As important for their hockey clubs as Backlund, Ekholm, Hjalmarsson, Hörnqvist and Hagelin! And Mother Russia is always your cup of tea! As a swede a win there is great insurance for us, two chances!! Hope that Jessup will join somehow. Don't trust Erkki Laine just yet on the manly NHL surface. Those are just unbelievable minior players! Good luck!
 
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I heard Grönborg has said he really will miss Alexander Steen as he is a player type this roster lacks. A healthy Zetterberg is of course a huge loss, but how much gas did he have left in the tank now anyways? Backlund was not an optimal replacement IMO. Time will tell. Would have gone Nykvist or Zinbad. Kronwall is apparently in a bad way, maybe he is done? I guess Ekholm/Lindholm as number 7 is OK, but would have found room on the roster for Klingberg
 
I heard Grönborg has said he really will miss Alexander Steen as he is a player type this roster lacks. A healthy Zetterberg is of course a huge loss, but how much gas did he have left in the tank now anyways? Backlund was not an optimal replacement IMO. Time will tell. Would have gone Nykvist or Zinbad. Kronwall is apparently in a bad way, maybe he is done? I guess Ekholm/Lindholm as number 7 is OK, but would have found room on the roster for Klingberg

Steen's the second best forward after Bäckström so it's quite a loss
 
I think Filip Forsberg will thrive in a tournament like this. How guys like him, Karlsson and obviously Lundqvist play will determine how well this team does. I see those as the three most important players on this team.
 
Holy god the sedins at their age might need to carry this sweden team again lol.

Z is a pretty big loss.
 
Holy god the sedins at their age might need to carry this sweden team again lol.

Z is a pretty big loss.

Z is a legend and i love him.

But he is not big loss.

We have Bäckström, Sedin, Söderberg, Backlund as centers. That is enough.
 
I heard Grönborg has said he really will miss Alexander Steen as he is a player type this roster lacks. A healthy Zetterberg is of course a huge loss, but how much gas did he have left in the tank now anyways? Backlund was not an optimal replacement IMO. Time will tell. Would have gone Nykvist or Zinbad. Kronwall is apparently in a bad way, maybe he is done? I guess Ekholm/Lindholm as number 7 is OK, but would have found room on the roster for Klingberg

Hmm. Rakell is similiar to Steen in terms of playing style.
 
http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/article23459548.ab

Lärarlös practice yesterday:


Så tränade Tre Kronor


GULT yellow

Backar

23. Oliver Ekman-Larsson

4. Niklas Hjalmarsson



6. Anton Strålman

77. Victor Hedman



Forwards

22. Daniel Sedin

33. Henrik Sedin

21. Loui Eriksson



62. Carl Hagelin

16. Marcus Krüger

18. Jakob Silfverberg


BLÃ…TT blue

Backar

65. Erik Karlsson

14. Mattias Ekholm

47. Hampus Lindholm



Forwards

9. Filip Forsberg

19. Nicklas Bäckström

72. Patric Hörnqvist



67. Rikard Rakell

34. Carl Söderberg

92. Gabriel Landeskog



11. Mikael Backlund
 
Shakes down to (with my comments):

Sedin-Sedin-L. Eriksson//Actually don't think Loui is that good fit with the Sedins, would have liked to see Steen there. RH shot that goes to the net more, opens up more space. But Loui is very smart and knows the Sedin's, so its a low risk move.
Hedman-Strålman//Very important to have a RH shot on the blueline with the Sedins. They soooo often comes out of that right corner with the puck after circling down low forever with the opponents having collapsed around the net. Its more or less a must for them to have a shooting option on the blueline on the small ice in those situations for them to be really effective.

Overall I like this line as a top unit. The Sedins are ultra-professionals, they may not be at their peak but I really think they will show up for this tournament and be able to carry a heavy load.


F. Forsberg-Bäckström-Hörnqvist//I expect to see FF on the left and PH on the right. Not hard to understand the thinking behind this line. Hörnqvist took a big step last season and was instrumental for the Pens' Cup win in a sense. He will make sure that whatever unit he is on contributes on the ice even if the play don't always work. And I think it reminds to be seen how effective this unit will be.
Ekholm-E. Karlsson//Karlsson on a unit will Bäckström is of course a really obvious goto source for offense. But is it too obvious? Nah, teams will be aware of it and will take away ice from them, but we will still see Bäckis finding EK a lot of times. Besides that, Ekholm is a great shooter too, if you take away EK Bäckis will still have Forsberg on the left and Ekholm on the left point as shooting options, while Hörnqvist is in the face of the goalie.

OTOH, what I do worry the most about with this line is that whatever team we face will 100% focus on getting the puck deep on them instead, while our guys still don't know each other perfectly and tries to be too fancy.


Rakell-Söderberg-Landeskog//I like Rakell and this unit will work very hard. But will it give us what we need? They will provide tight heavy checking and hard work. Grönberg has is without any doubt the best coach ever to ice the best teams for Day 1 of tournaments, but how many times has his team lacked creativity, speed and what not when it really matters? The answer is simple, every single time he has been behind a bench for Tre Kronor. I have a very bad feeling that we will end up sitting there watching a team skating in mud down 2-1 after 30 minutes in an elimination game asking ourselves where Gustav Nyquist is for example.
OEL-Hjalmarsson//OEL is a World-Class defender. But his biggest strength can be labeled as quantity instead of quality. IE, he gives you plays at a very high level night in and night out, week after week, through the entire season. But he is also a D that takes up a lot of space on the ice. OEL is definitely not a 15 minute D so to speak. He should get up towards 22 to play to his strength. Which we for example saw in the OGs where he struggled mighty in a smaller role. Has he matured enough since then?

Hagelin-Kreuger-Silvferberg//A 4th line that definitely should be able to get the job of a traditional 4th line done. Experienced. Definitely some offense hidden on it. And so forth.

Backlund//We obviously don't want to get down a center, which is understandable. Can't fault RG for making sure to have 5 centers on the roster, more or less a must IMO (even if I think Nyqvist is heads and shoulders above MB)...
H. Lindholm//I like Lindholm a lot. Can play both the left and right side. OTOH that could be said about Brodin too. Wouldn't have minded seeing either Lindholm or Brodin in the top 6 starting the tournament in Ekholms spot...
 
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Its a fine team. Sure if you start a paper player by player analysis, nobody can touch Canada, but Swedens lines does look good. No more injurues now though!!
 
OEL-Hjalmarsson//OEL is a World-Class defender. But his biggest strength can be labeled as quantity instead of quality. IE, he gives you plays at a very high level night in and night out, week after week, through the entire season. But he is also a D that takes up a lot of space on the ice. OEL is definitely not a 15 minute D so to speak. He should get up towards 22 to play to his strength. Which we for example saw in the OGs where he struggled mighty in a smaller role. Has he matured enough since then?

He did?
 
Is Sweden the only team whose highest scoring player in NHL was a defenseman?

It's pretty concerning when you think about Sweden's struggling offense.
 
Is Sweden the only team whose highest scoring player in NHL was a defenseman?

It's pretty concerning when you think about Sweden's struggling offense.

I don't think that this fact is so concerning. Remember that Karlsson was TOP5 in scoring which means he also scored more points than most of the Canadians, Russians etc. However I can see why people might be concerned about Swedens offence. I think that their bottom-6 has not so much scoring potential, but TOP-6 is great. Obviously much will depend on the level that Sedins play.
 
I don't think that this fact is so concerning. Remember that Karlsson was TOP5 in scoring which means he also scored more points than most of the Canadians, Russians etc. However I can see why people might be concerned about Swedens offence. I think that their bottom-6 has not so much scoring potential, but TOP-6 is great. Obviously much will depend on the level that Sedins play.

Yeah well we are a bit injury sensitive at this point, we dont have that many really good centers. H Sedin and Bäckis just have to be healthy.
 
Yeah well we are a bit injury sensitive at this point, we dont have that many really good centers. H Sedin and Bäckis just have to be healthy.

What I'd be a little concerned about though might not be a tournament like this, but what about after Zetterberg, H Sedin etc. retire? How are Sweden's young centers?
 
What I'd be a little concerned about though might not be a tournament like this, but what about after Zetterberg, H Sedin etc. retire? How are Sweden's young centers?

Apart from Bäckström there is currently none at that level.

There is young and youngish players that could develop into world class C still but it remains to be seen. You got some names there from another poster, maybe Lindholm instead of Rask if you see Rask as a winger, although personally I think Rask seems to become better than Elias Lindholm offensively.
 
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