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World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Sweden Part II

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True Hockey Fan said:
how? They have 3 elite defensemen - Karlsson, Hedman, Ekman-Larsson.
Canada had 5 - Keith, Doughty, Weber, Pietrangelo, and Burns. Now we have still 4.
Plus the group of Vlasic, Muzzin, Bouwmeester is better than Hjalmarsson, Stralman, Ekholm/Lindholm

if anything, it got closer, sure, but they are not better and they were certainly not better with us having 5 elite d-men and them 3, but I guess we should have this debate in our thread, haha.
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Well, 4 versus 3 elite defensemen is close and as for the others i would say there is not much difference.All of Hjalmarsson,Stralman,Ekholm and Lindholm are really good d-men.

So to me that is pretty much on par.
 
It is too bad we dont see Nylander in the World Cup. Finland has 18 year old Laine, so I dont see why Sweden cant use a young upcoming forward as well.

Kruger is waste of a roster spot anyway.
 
Sorey said:
It is too bad we dont see Nylander in the World Cup. Finland has 18 year old Laine, so I dont see why Sweden cant use a young upcoming forward as well.

Kruger is waste of a roster spot anyway.
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Nylander Will make the Leafs somewhere in time, I am sure of that. Not even Jessup (Jesse Puljujärvi) makes the tournament!
 
Sweden's lineup

Defenders:
Niklas Hjalmarsson – Erik Karlsson
Victor Hedman – Anton Strålman
Oliver Ekman-Larsson – Mattias Ekholm
(Extra – Hampus Lindholm)

Forwards:
Patric Hörnqvist – Nicklas Bäckström – Filip Forsberg
Loui Eriksson – Henrik Sedin – Daniel Sedin
Jakob Silfverberg – Henrik Zetterberg – Carl Hagelin
Marcus Krüger – Carl Söderberg – Gabriel Landeskog
(Extra – Rickard Rakell)

Don´t know what it's based on or how they got that information, but they made an article with the names that are on the team and also that lineup, saying "Check out how Grönborgs teambuild looks like" followed by "lineups".
 
joe89 said:
True, but the reasoning he gives is sound.

I think Ekholm is a bit underrated around here. He took really big steps last season, and was amazing in the playoffs.
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Yep I agree I was just pointing it out.
 
Sorey said:
It is too bad we dont see Nylander in the World Cup. Finland has 18 year old Laine, so I dont see why Sweden cant use a young upcoming forward as well.

Kruger is waste of a roster spot anyway.
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Sure, but Finland's forwards don't have anywhere close to the depth of Sweden.

Nylander would probably make team Finland too.
 
Cogsbreakaway said:
Sure, but Finland's forwards don't have anywhere close to the depth of Sweden.

Nylander would probably make team Finland too.
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I´d say they have nearly the same depth as Sweden, Nylander would be in the discussion but he wouldn´t make team Finland who snubbed Pulju, Rantanen, Salomäki etc

Laine however would make team Sweden.

"Karlsson to Laine" would be something :handclap:
 
Booster said:
I´d say they have nearly the same depth as Sweden, Nylander would be in the discussion but he wouldn´t make team Finland who snubbed Pulju, Rantanen, Salomäki etc

Laine however would make team Sweden.

"Karlsson to Laine" would be something :handclap:
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Barkov, Koivu, Jokinen and Komarov would make the swedish team, that I am sure of but we're talking about depth which forwards of Zibanejad and Johanssons calibre do you see left of the finnish roster?
 
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Booster said:
I´d say they have nearly the same depth as Sweden, Nylander would be in the discussion but he wouldn´t make team Finland who snubbed Pulju, Rantanen, Salomäki etc

Laine however would make team Sweden.

"Karlsson to Laine" would be something :handclap:
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Nearly the same depth? Sweden had 17 NHL forwards with 40+ points last year, while Finland had 4.

Swedish/Finnish World cup forwards sorted by NHL points 15-16:

  1. Nicklas Backstrom SWE C 75 20 50 70
  2. Filip Forsberg SWE L 82 33 31 64
  3. Loui Eriksson SWE R 82 30 33 63
  4. Daniel Sedin SWE L 82 28 33 61
  5. Jussi Jokinen FIN L 81 18 42 60
  6. Aleksander Barkov FIN C 66 28 31 59
  7. Mikko Koivu FIN C 82 17 39 56
  8. Henrik Sedin SWE C 74 11 44 55
  9. Gabriel Landeskog SWE L 75 20 33 53
  10. Carl Soderberg SWE C 82 12 39 51
  11. Patric Hornqvist SWE R 82 22 29 51
  12. Henrik Zetterberg SWE L 82 13 37 50
  13. Mikael Granlund FIN C 82 13 31 44
  14. Rickard Rakell SWE C 72 20 23 43
  15. Carl Hagelin SWE L 80 14 25 39
  16. Jakob Silfverberg SWE R 82 20 19 39
  17. Leo Komarov FIN C 67 19 17 36
  18. Joonas Donskoi FIN R 76 11 25 36
  19. Teuvo Teravainen FIN L 78 13 22 35
  20. Jori Lehtera FIN C 79 9 25 34
  21. Erik Haula FIN C 76 14 20 34
  22. Valtteri Filppula FIN C 76 8 23 31
  23. Lauri Korpikoski FIN L 71 10 12 22
  24. Marcus Kruger SWE C 41 0 4 4
 
When Lundqvist is tweeting in anticipation about the upcoming World cup..........you can tell he is taking it seriously.
 
Seriously though, I think Nylander would be positive for this team. It needs a young upside among the aging forwards. Let's be honest that Zetterberg and Sedins are both over the hill. Zetterberg was really sad to watch end of the last season.
 
Sorey said:
Seriously though, I think Nylander would be positive for this team. It needs a young upside among the aging forwards. Let's be honest that Zetterberg and Sedins are both over the hill. Zetterberg was really sad to watch end of the last season.
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I agree. I thought you guys were talking about Alex Nylander making team Finland for a moment :laugh:
 
Zetterberg was fantastic at the start of last season, hopefully he can be that player in this tournament. I'm also not worried about the Sedins at all, they carried a terrible team last season with no support whatsoever.

I also like the addition of Rakell, Steen is the superior player but he doesn't fill a big need on this team. Nylander would have been interesting to watch as well, after this season we are all going to wonder why he was never in the discussion.
 
Sorey said:
Seriously though, I think Nylander would be positive for this team. It needs a young upside among the aging forwards. Let's be honest that Zetterberg and Sedins are both over the hill. Zetterberg was really sad to watch end of the last season.
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Zetterberg had huge back-problems at the end of the season.

But I agree, he has still declined in a bad way. So has his teammate, Kronwall. I was glad to see him replaced by Lindholm.
 
Huffman said:
Zetterberg was fantastic at the start of last season, hopefully he can be that player in this tournament. I'm also not worried about the Sedins at all, they carried a terrible team last season with no support whatsoever.

I also like the addition of Rakell, Steen is the superior player but he doesn't fill a big need on this team. Nylander would have been interesting to watch as well, after this season we are all going to wonder why he was never in the discussion.
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I remember that BÅG played 18 year old Backstrom in Tre Kronor. Everone hated BÅG, but atleast he did something right. Willie Nylander is 20 now btw, so not a junior player. Grönborg is another typical swedish coach that likes to play it safe though :(
 
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