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World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Canada (Part II)

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Duchene's strong defensive play may have helped him secure the nod for the world cup team. He was already at an advantage because of his versatility, but being on the ice in the final 8 seconds (with O'Reilly and Marchand) really says something. Considering he would most likely be a 3rd/4th line guy on the team regardless, his pk and play away from the puck helps make him a strong candidate.

I hope O'Reilly can find a way on to the team as well, just love his game. But then again, all 3 on that line were fantastic--yet none of them are strong skaters. You've got to consider that they'd only be more effective playing on smaller ice.
 
drewstar said:
Last 4 forwards to make the roster:

Perry
Giroux
Duchene
Hall

Last 3 defensemen to make the roster:

Burns
Pietrangelo
Brodie

Stamkos - Crosby - Bergeron
Benn - Tavares - Seguin
Hall - Toews - Giroux
Duchene - Getzlaf - Perry
Carter

Keith - Weber
Vlasic - Doughty
Brodie - Burns
Pietrangelo

Price
Holtby
Crawford
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Looks good except for Toews, Getzlaf and Perry. They'll be there, 'cause it's an NHL tourney, but would be nice to see some new blood. Hard to see any of those three but Getzlaf outplaying RoR/Scheifele/Stone.
 
KBobs20 said:
Duchene's strong defensive play may have helped him secure the nod for the world cup team. He was already at an advantage because of his versatility, but being on the ice in the final 8 seconds (with O'Reilly and Marchand) really says something. Considering he would most likely be a 3rd/4th line guy on the team regardless, his pk and play away from the puck helps make him a strong candidate.

I hope O'Reilly can find a way on to the team as well, just love his game. But then again, all 3 on that line were fantastic--yet none of them are strong skaters. You've got to consider that they'd only be more effective playing on smaller ice.
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I think Duchene is a lock, and for the reason you said. He was solid defensively throughout this tournament, especially on the PK. McKenzie also said that Duchene will very likely be picked. Too bad for Hall, as I think Duchene takes his spot.

O'Reilly had a good tournament. I think he is better internationally on the wing, which helps him when it comes time to pick Canada. His competition is obviously Marchand, but I think that Marchand is who they will go with. He had a stronger year in the NHL, and the coaching staff (including World Cup assistant Peters) selected him as one of Canada's three best players.

I'm pretty confident that Canada's remaining picks will at least feature:

Perry, Duchene, Marchand, Pietrangelo, Burns plus another forward and another defenceman.

The last two picks are anyone's guess. McKenzie thinks that Bouwmeester has a good chance, which surprised me. My hope is that they pick either Letang or Subban and Giroux, but I'm expecting a more conservative approach. Some players definitely helped their cause at the World Championship though.
 
JackSlater said:
I think Duchene is a lock, and for the reason you said. He was solid defensively throughout this tournament, especially on the PK. McKenzie also said that Duchene will very likely be picked. Too bad for Hall, as I think Duchene takes his spot.

O'Reilly had a good tournament. I think he is better internationally on the wing, which helps him when it comes time to pick Canada. His competition is obviously Marchand, but I think that Marchand is who they will go with. He had a stronger year in the NHL, and the coaching staff (including World Cup assistant Peters) selected him as one of Canada's three best players.

I'm pretty confident that Canada's remaining picks will at least feature:

Perry, Duchene, Marchand, Pietrangelo, Burns plus another forward and another defenceman.

The last two picks are anyone's guess. McKenzie thinks that Bouwmeester has a good chance, which surprised me. My hope is that they pick either Letang or Subban and Giroux, but I'm expecting a more conservative approach. Some players definitely helped their cause at the World Championship though.
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I agree with those players, although I don't believe Marchand is a lock (unlike the rest). I was also surprised to hear what McKenzie said about Bouwmeester, but I guess the ready-made pairing of him and Pietro is too enticing to pass up. I hope, if he's healthy enough, that Giroux gets the last F spot. The guy is better than half the team and can move over to RW.
 
True Hockey Fan said:
On defense, my personal last 3 picks would be Burns, Letang, and Subban. Would be fun.
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Babcock has stressed guys not playing on their wrong side and that would leave only 2 LHD and 5 RHD so unlikely that all those 3 (or any 3 RHD) get added to the team.

With Doug Armstong as the GM, his solid play so far this year and in the play-offs and fact that he was on the 2014 team, it is hard to see Pietrangelo being left off the team.

Possible because Burns and Letang arguably deserve it more but I think the last 3 guys are Burns, Pietrangelo and Giordano/Brodie.
 
KBobs20 said:
I agree with those players, although I don't believe Marchand is a lock (unlike the rest). I was also surprised to hear what McKenzie said about Bouwmeester, but I guess the ready-made pairing of him and Pietro is too enticing to pass up. I hope, if he's healthy enough, that Giroux gets the last F spot. The guy is better than half the team and can move over to RW.
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Perhaps Armstrong (St. Louis' GM) plays a part in why McKenzie thinks Bouwmeester should be there. I would certainly rather some new blood to play, particularly given that Bouwmeester's selection inevitably would come at the expense of a superior player. I also hope that Giroux is picked. The guy deserves it.

It will also be interesting to see how Stamkos' health situation goes. If he goes down, I wouldn't be surprised to see Stone get a chance. Seguin may also be less than 100% next season, but he will almost certainly be playing by that time at least.
 
pity to be the one who has to 'cut' 4 of these guys
any of these 4 would compliment the first nine forwards nicely

Perry: only Scott Niedermeyer can also claim WC, Olympic, Stanley, Memorial Cup and WJC. the guy is simply a winner! Was a surprisingly good captain, and gave surprisingly good interviews. Strength: cycle game and net front presence. Underrated passer

Giroux: all around game. Great playmaker, underrated goal scorer and defensively

Duchene: everyone knows of the moves, skating and the shot. Surprised me with his defensive play, and faceoff strength

Hall: fast, great relentless and tenacious forechecker, goal scorer. Underrated playmaker. Better defensively every year.

O'Reilly: all around game. Not the fastest guy, but one of the strongest!

Marchand: all around game. Best pest in the business! Inherited this position from Perry who is becoming more of a 'gentleman' out there in his senior years))

Stone: all around game. Not the fastest guy, but strong like O'Reilly and best puck thief and turnover guy in the business!

Couture: all around game! No idea though why he didn't go to Prague last year

8 quality choices! shame only 4 can go

same on D

4 great choices for RHD: Subban, Pietrangelo, Letang and Burns. shame only two can go (I'm guessing Brodie for 3rd LHD)
 
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I think Hall makes it after that tournament. Very strong all around performance and played two minutes more than any other Canadian forward in the gold medal game. Clearly Peters liked and trusted him.
 
I'd go with this

Benn Crosby (C) Seguin
O'Rielly Tavares Carter
Hall Giroux Stamkos
Duchene Toews (A) Bergeron
Getzlaf

Keith Weber (A)
Vlasic Burns
Brodie Doughty
Pieterangelo

Price
Holtby
Crawford
 
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13 forwards:

Benn, Bergeron, Carter, Crosby, Getzlaf, Seguin, Stamkos, Tavares, Toews

+ Giroux, O'Reilly, Hall, Perry

Hall-Crosby-Bergeron
Benn-Toews-Seguin
Tavares-Getzlaf-Perry
O'Reilly-Giroux-Stamkos
Carter

Sorry, Duchene or Marchand. :(
 
ChaoticOrange said:
I think Hall makes it after that tournament. Very strong all around performance and played two minutes more than any other Canadian forward in the gold medal game. Clearly Peters liked and trusted him.
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Hall playing well with Crosby in Prague 2015 also helps his cause significantly. The LW on Crosby's line has never been an easy spot to fill for Canada and Hall has shown himself better there than anyone else has as of late. Nonetheless, Hockey Canada has certain difficult decisions to make.
 
Hall clicked with Crosby extremely well in 2015 and killed it in 2016. Put up a whack of goals last year and his defensive game has really came around

Leaving him off TC would be a mistake Imo. But could see cases for other players

He'd come in huge if scoring was low or a problem (as it was last Olympics during prelims). Hall can create a whack of offense by himself
 
With another successful World Championships in the books, here is my final projected Team Canada roster for the World Cup:

Hall - Crosby - Bergeron
Benn - Tavares - Seguin
Duchene - Toews - Carter
Marchand - Getzlaf - Perry
Stamkos

Keith - Weber
Vlasic - Doughty
Pietrangelo - Burns
Subban

Price
Holtby
Crawford

Some notes/comments:
- Hall, Duchene, Perry and Marchand grab the final four forward spots on the strength of their performance in Russia. Well, Perry showed up which was almost certainly good enough, but didn't have as strong a tournament as the other three who were in direct competition with each other.
- O'Reilly misses the cut unfortunately, as does Giroux and Couture. I stand by my comments from a few weeks ago where I argued that Giroux will be caught up in a numbers game with the number of centres already on the team, several of whom will have to convert to wing. It's unfortunate, but this is the toughest hockey team in the world to crack. Couture could have done himself a favour by showing up at one of these tournaments in his career, but he hasn't, so alas...too bad because he's having n exceptional playoffs.
- Duchene was put in a leadership position by Peters in Russia and stepped up his defensive game tremendously. I'd feel comfortable with him in a 2-way role on this team. He's been extremely loyal to Hockey Canada, is versatile, and is a known commodity with Babcock and the coaching staff. Hall has had two superb performances in a row at the Worlds, including a successful turn with Crosby last year. I project him as a scoring winger on this squad.
- I project Marchand over O'Reilly (barely) given his stronger offensive year, capabilities as an agitator, and chemistry with Bergeron. I'd perhaps also look for Marchand to get time on Crosby's wing in tight defensive situations.
- It's clear to me that Armstrong erred by selecting Stamkos as one of the first 16 players. He doesn't appear to be a good fit on this team, and in my mind Giroux would be much more preferable. Oh well.
- I saw MacKenzie's comments a few days back regarding Bouwmeester; now, J-Bo is still a fine defender but has clearly, obviously been surpassed by Burns, Subban, and Letang (it's difficult to leave him off the team but it comes down to a numbers game for him). Not to mention Brodie and Giordano whom, if MacKenzie's comments are an indication as to how Hockey Canada feels about those two Flames, seem to not be held in the highest regard. If Armstrong does opt for Bouwmeester over Subban (or Letang, Brodie and Giordano) it would be nepotistic and short-sighted in my view, and the wrong choice. The LH/RH split on NHL-sized ice isn't nearly as big deal as on international ice.
 
Hap said:
Babcock has stressed guys not playing on their wrong side and that would leave only 2 LHD and 5 RHD so unlikely that all those 3 (or any 3 RHD) get added to the team.

With Doug Armstong as the GM, his solid play so far this year and in the play-offs and fact that he was on the 2014 team, it is hard to see Pietrangelo being left off the team.

Possible because Burns and Letang arguably deserve it more but I think the last 3 guys are Burns, Pietrangelo and Giordano/Brodie.
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I know, those 3 would be just my personal choice, not saying they will go that way. :)

Anyway, doesn't really matter who they pick, it's going to be incredibly strong defence.


The last 4 forwards....you can flip a coin. And the same on D.
 
ChaoticOrange said:
I think Hall makes it after that tournament. Very strong all around performance and played two minutes more than any other Canadian forward in the gold medal game. Clearly Peters liked and trusted him.
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or he just stayed on the ice then then he should have....
 
Consensus is that Perry/Duchene/Hall make it.. With Giroux battling Marchand for the last spot. Couture hasnt helped his case by declining an invite at the 2015 Worlds.

Burns/Pietrangelo seem to be the consensus two rhd to make it...which of Brodie/Giordano/Bouwmeestee make the lone lhd slot? Apologies to Subban and Letang for being right handed.
 
drewstar said:
Consensus is that Perry/Duchene/Hall make it.. With Giroux battling Marchand for the last spot. Couture hasnt helped his case by declining an invite at the 2015 Worlds.

Burns/Pietrangelo seem to be the consensus two rhd to make it...which of Brodie/Giordano/Bouwmeestee make the lone lhd slot? Apologies to Subban and Letang for being right handed.
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The only way I could of seen subban making it would be as number 7 as a powerplay guy for his shot but if burns goes he has that covered anyways.
 
I want to send congratulations to Team Canada in winning the gold. I didn't think they'd be strong enough to beat Russia or Finland this year but they did. I do feel bad for the Fins a bit. They played a perfect tournament only to lose in the final by 1 goal (not counting the open netter). A tough way to lose. As a Oilers fan it was nice to see Taylor Hall, Mcdavid, and Talbot all playing so well it gives me hope the non playoff era for the Oilers is almost over.
 
wonder if Morgan Rielly has a chance to be third LHD?
He was awesome at World's, Brodie and Gio didn't go (even with their GM running the WCH team), and Babcock has the biggest voice and vote re WC roster selections, and of course Rielly is Babcock's home horse
I don't have a problem with Pietrangelo playing his 'off' side and letting two of Subban, Letang and Burns also make the team, but wondering if Rielly could be a dark horse in all of this
 
I still don't see Price being on the team. He will have gone 9 months between games and is getting over a serious injury.
 
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