World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Canada (Part II)

[JackSlater]

I completely agree with your roster and reasoning, well done. I really like it. Please, can you select the remaining players for Team Canada?

Hockey Cnada hasn't called yet. They did pick the exact defence I wanted for the 2014 Olympics though.

Unfortunately, I have the same feeling. I would prefer to not have Perry there this time... but Perry answered the call, went to WHC, won the Gold and was captain. I can't imagine the situation where they would leave him from this team, especially with Getzlaf who is already selected. I would rather award someone else, like you mentioned - Giroux / Stone / Hall.

I have nothing against Marchand, think he's a great player, but again, I want to see someone else, see Giroux / Stone / Hall. But his WHC showing, 37-goal season and playing on the line with Bergeron will play in favor for him, I'd assume.

I think that they will snub Giroux again, whatever, maybe it will be better for him to skip this meaningless tournament, fully recover from surgery and put all attention to new NHL season.

Oh and obviously no to Bouwmeester, I want to see as entertaining hockey as possible.

But yes, I won't be shocked If they go with something like this, as I said - unfortunately.

Yes. O'Reilly - Giroux - Seguin; this line was awesome at 2015 WHC. They could be easily the line on World Cup team. Just like Hall - Crosby + Bergeron or someone.

I fear that Giroux is simply next in line to take the throne previously occupied by Spezza, Turgeon, Oates, Francis, Savard - elite Canadian playmaking centres who don't get to play at the highest level. Kind of unfortunate for those players. If they were of any other nationality they would have had ample opportunity to play at the highest level, and in some cases would be among the top centres ever for that country.

 

[leafs1396]

Interested to hear everyones takes on my additional 7 players that could be added to Team Canada this Friday as well as Line combo's. Bolded players already named...


Tavares-Crosby-Stamkos
Benn-Toews-Seguin
Hall-Getzlaf-Perry
O'Reilly-Bergeron-Carter
Duchene

Keith-Weber
Vlasic-Doughty
Brodie-Pietrangelo
Burns

Price
Holtby
Crawford

 

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Stamkos-Crosby-Tavares
Benn-Thornton-Seguin
Marchand-Toews-Bergeron
Giroux-Getzlaf-Carter
Hall

Keith-Weber
Vlasic-Doughty
Brodie-Pietrangelo
Burns

Price
Holtby
Crawford

 

[Stud Muffin]

Hall-Crosby-Tavares
Benn-Seguin-Giroux
Stamkos-Toews-Perry
Couture-Getzlaf-Bergeron
Carter

 

[BelowTheIce]

Heres an article from our site! Check it out!

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1968283

 

[KBobs]

The team will be announced tomorrow at 6 PM ET

 

[Sens Rule]

The team will be announced tomorrow at 6 PM ET

Watching TSN predict the rest of Team Canada tonight makes me really want a different World Cup lineup.

I totally wanted "real" teams throughout. 2 of Switzerland, Germany or Slovakia should have been the extra two teams. But seriously... Team Canada will leave off so many ridiculously good players. Subban? Letang?

The under 23 North Americans is not good enough.

Again I would advocate for a "real" world Cup. Maybe with the 12 best hockey nations... But if you want the "best" 8 hockey teams you go:

USA
Sweden
Finland
Russia
Czech Republic
Other Europeans/Quebec and Maritimes
Ontario
Western Canada

You do something like that. And again I don't advocate for that... But if you want an NHL all star tournament with the best 160 players in the world... That is how you do it.

 

[oilinblood]

Interested to hear everyones takes on my additional 7 players that could be added to Team Canada this Friday as well as Line combo's. Bolded players already named...


Tavares-Crosby-Stamkos
Benn-Toews-Seguin
Hall-Getzlaf-Perry
O'Reilly-Bergeron-Carter
Duchene

Keith-Weber
Vlasic-Doughty
Brodie-Pietrangelo
Burns

Price
Holtby
Crawford

Personally, ever since 05 world juniors, ive always thought Bergeron and Crosby had good chemistry and was baffled it took Babs so long in Sochi to pair them.

I think you add Benn to the LW of Crosby-Bergeron. That is a dominant NHL ice first line. They can cycle on the small ice, dominate Ds, play a 200 foot game. I believe that is the best top line for an NHL ice surface.
OR you put Hall there. Hall id say is worse defensively than Benn, so it is best to pair him with one of the best 200 foot players in the game on the other wing. Plus Hall and Crosby...they looked pretty dang good last year at the WC together-to say the least. So if Hall is on that LW you basically have Sid with two guys he has already played and shown chemistry with. I say that with fully knowing that Hall is not the most complete player to put in that spot BUT with more mindfullness put into Sids familiarity and proven chemistry. Sid has shown he clicks or doesnt click with certain players.

Benn/Hall Crosby Bergeron
Hall/Benn Toews Seguin (Timberlake)
Couture Getzlaf Perry
Tavares-Stamkos-Giroux

Last lines i like Couture opposite to Perry. It makes a tonne of sense on a weaponry perspective. Tavares and Giroux with Stamkos is also a no brainer to me.

I think this might be the last Best on Best tourney where Weber is a "lock" roster player. by 2018 I dont really see him getting a "guaranteed" spot.

right now my D looks like this

Keith Burns
Vlasic Doughty (Doughty gets green light with Vlasic)
Brodie Weber
Pietrangelo

honestly i am still iffy if i choose weber ahead of Piet.

Holtby
Price
Crawford.

Holtby is the hot hand. Despite being eliminated by the Penguins, he is the best goalie in the league presently.

 

[xxxx]

Maybe some of you watched it, for thos who didn't, here's TSN's projected final roster, including lines:


Patrice Bergeron - Sidney Crosby - Steven Stamkos
Brad Marchand - jonathan Toews - Jeff Carter
Jamie Benn - Tyler Seguin - Matt Duchene
John Tavares - Ryan Getzlaf - Corey Perry
Joe Thornton

Duncan Keith - Shea Weber
Marc-Edouard Vlasic - Drew Doughty
Mark Giordano - Alex Pietrangelo
Brent Burns

Carey Price, Braden Holtby, Corey Crawford


THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL ROSTER. The final names are to be named today.

 

[86Habs]

Maybe some of you watched it, for thos who didn't, here's TSN's projected final roster, including lines:


Patrice Bergeron - Sidney Crosby - Steven Stamkos
Brad Marchand - jonathan Toews - Jeff Carter
Jamie Benn - Tyler Seguin - Matt Duchene
John Tavares - Ryan Getzlaf - Corey Perry
Joe Thornton

Duncan Keith - Shea Weber
Marc-Edouard Vlasic - Drew Doughty
Mark Giordano - Alex Pietrangelo
Brent Burns

Carey Price, Braden Holtby, Corey Crawford


THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL ROSTER. The final names are to be named today.

Yeah, I saw it. The roster Button put together seems rational and logical. He acknowledged the chemistry between Crosby and Bergeron, as well as Marchand having the necessary IQ to play with Toews and Carter. He gave Marchand the nod over O'Reilly because he's a natural LWer whereas O'Reilly would convert over from center. Thornton cracks the squad as 13th forward on the strength of his regular season and playoff performance. No mention of Hall or Giroux.

On defense, it seems it was a toss-up for Button between Giordano and Brodie but mentioned that Giordano plays the left side on that pairing, which gave him the edge for this particular squad (Brodie is LHed, but plays the right side). Letang barely misses the cut, while Subban is "too risky".

 

[JackSlater]

Yeah, I saw it. The roster Button put together seems rational and logical. He acknowledged the chemistry between Crosby and Bergeron, as well as Marchand having the necessary IQ to play with Toews and Carter. He gave Marchand the nod over O'Reilly because he's a natural LWer whereas O'Reilly would convert over from center. Thornton cracks the squad as 13th forward on the strength of his regular season and playoff performance. No mention of Hall or Giroux.

O'Reilly played pretty much the whole 2013-2014 season at LW, and has played that position in multiple tournaments for Canada. Hockey Canada may leave O'Reilly off for Marchand (in fact I expect it) but Button's reason is not satisfactory.

 

[syz]

If you want a natural LW you take Hall anyways.

 

[JackSlater]

If you want a natural LW you take Hall anyways.

Not when you want a checking line winger.

 

[86Habs]

O'Reilly played pretty much the whole 2013-2014 season at LW, and has played that position in multiple tournaments for Canada. Hockey Canada may leave O'Reilly off for Marchand (in fact I expect it) but Button's reason is not satisfactory.

Undoubtedly O'Reilly can adeptly play LW, but regardless that was the reason given by Button for selecting Marchand over him. I can see where he's coming from, but the majority of the forward group will consist of centers anyway....so what's one more? Actually, in his roster, there are only three "natural" wingers - Benn (who I think played center at one point in Dallas), Perry and Marchand. The other guys will who inevitably need to convert to the wing have demonstrated they can do so. I'm not a huge Marchand fan, but wouldn't be upset if he made this team. I'd probably prefer O'Reilly as he has, in my estimation, a better chance of making future editions of Team Canada and it would be good for him to get a bit more experience at this level of play.

 

[SPF6ty9]

Maybe some of you watched it, for thos who didn't, here's TSN's projected final roster, including lines:


Patrice Bergeron - Sidney Crosby - Steven Stamkos
Brad Marchand - jonathan Toews - Jeff Carter
Jamie Benn - Tyler Seguin - Matt Duchene
John Tavares - Ryan Getzlaf - Corey Perry
Joe Thornton

Duncan Keith - Shea Weber
Marc-Edouard Vlasic - Drew Doughty
Mark Giordano - Alex Pietrangelo
Brent Burns

Carey Price, Braden Holtby, Corey Crawford


THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL ROSTER. The final names are to be named today.

That's a pretty underwhelming 2nd line in my opinion. I know TSN loves Toews, but you have to give Benn and probably Seguin top 6 time. Marchand and Carter, while good players, would be 2 of the 3 weakest forwards we're rostering here.

I like OilinBlood's lineup personally.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Maybe some of you watched it, for thos who didn't, here's TSN's projected final roster, including lines:


Patrice Bergeron - Sidney Crosby - Steven Stamkos
Brad Marchand - jonathan Toews - Jeff Carter
Jamie Benn - Tyler Seguin - Matt Duchene
John Tavares - Ryan Getzlaf - Corey Perry
Joe Thornton

Duncan Keith - Shea Weber
Marc-Edouard Vlasic - Drew Doughty
Mark Giordano - Alex Pietrangelo
Brent Burns

Carey Price, Braden Holtby, Corey Crawford


THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL ROSTER. The final names are to be named today.

So many damn centers.

 

[86Habs]

That's a pretty underwhelming 2nd line in my opinion. I know TSN loves Toews, but you have to give Benn and probably Seguin top 6 time. Marchand and Carter, while good players, would be 2 of the 3 weakest forwards we're rostering here.

I like OilinBlood's lineup personally.

Toews and his linemates have consistently led Team Canada in ice time over the last two Olympics. I'm fairly certain Toews, Marleau and Carter were each in the top 5 in overall ice time in Sochi, particularly in the playoff and medal round. So yeah, you should probably expect Toews, Carter and whoever ends up on their left side to be getting no lower than 2nd line minutes at the World Cup.

 

[tade]

Maybe some of you watched it, for thos who didn't, here's TSN's projected final roster, including lines:


Patrice Bergeron - Sidney Crosby - Steven Stamkos
Brad Marchand - jonathan Toews - Jeff Carter
Jamie Benn - Tyler Seguin - Matt Duchene
John Tavares - Ryan Getzlaf - Corey Perry
Joe Thornton

Duncan Keith - Shea Weber
Marc-Edouard Vlasic - Drew Doughty
Mark Giordano - Alex Pietrangelo
Brent Burns

Carey Price, Braden Holtby, Corey Crawford


THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL ROSTER. The final names are to be named today.

I am really not a fan of this roster, I hope Canada will select better.

 

[jj cale]

I am really not a fan of this roster, I hope Canada will select better.

Which guys?

Because aside from 2-3 names I see on there that are questionable to be taken , that is basically going to be the group selected.


Mistakes will unquestionably be made picking Team Canada's roster. It can't be helped.

Just off the top of my head I would have waited and discussed more with everyone sitting down on Stamkos.

 

[tade]

Which guys?

Because aside from 2-3 names I see on there that are questionable to be taken , that is basically going to be the group selected.


Mistakes will unquestionably be made picking Team Canada's roster. It can't be helped.

Just off the top of my head I would have waited and discussed more with everyone sitting down on Stamkos.

I want Giroux, Hall, O'Reilly. Subban / Letang instead of Giordano.

 

[jj cale]

I want Giroux, Hall, O'Reilly. On defense Subban / Letang instead of Giordano.

I'm with you on Giroux, I think he has earned it not only with his commitment to playing for TC but just that he's a great player and should be there...............but I think we are both gonna be dissapointed.

I won't be a happy man.


Ditto Hall and O'Reilly but there is only so many spots, Hall might make it due to his play with Crosby, but then so should Giroux.

Letang and Subban are odd men out,as good as they are.

Giordano........hmm.

Since this tournament is already kind of nilly willy silly what with the young guns and pseudo team Europe why shouldnt there be trades allowed?

I propose Mark Stone for Ekmann-Larrson.

Any takers from Sweden?

They've got the defensive depth to cover and it improves their front end.

 

[Sheppy]

That's a pretty underwhelming 2nd line in my opinion. I know TSN loves Toews, but you have to give Benn and probably Seguin top 6 time. Marchand and Carter, while good players, would be 2 of the 3 weakest forwards we're rostering here.

I like OilinBlood's lineup personally.

Maybe on paper, but when it comes to playing short handed, there aren't too many better than Brad Marchand. Sometimes you need players like this on your team.

 

[jj cale]

Maybe on paper, but when it comes to playing short handed, there aren't too many better than Brad Marchand. Sometimes you need players like this on your team.

Marchand is fine on this team, he's smart and skilled.

Really was a game changer this past Skodas and we all know his NHL resume.

He made a ton of little plays that certified his ability.

He can play at the highest level.

 

[SPF6ty9]

Maybe on paper, but when it comes to playing short handed, there aren't too many better than Brad Marchand. Sometimes you need players like this on your team.

Ya I have no issues with him being on the team itself if he is named, he's one of the bubble guys who has a deserving case. I just don't see him as someone who should be on the 2nd line of probably the best team in the world.

86Habs, you're right those guys did lead Canada's ice time as forwards except for maybe Crosby. I don't think I'd have as much of an issue if it was something like Toews, Carter, and Benn. It just seems like a really weak 2nd line to have both Carter and Marchand on it. But I guess you never really know how these things will turn out until you put these guys on the ice together and see how things work out.

 

[snizzbone*]

Isn't Giroux out 3-4 months? Will he even be available?