2016 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

[ps241]

Bob McKenzie will be revealing their 1-30 picks on the show tonight and their top 60 will be on tsn.ca tonight as well.

Looking forward to the show given how our season is going.

 

[Daximus]

Many of those that watch Sarnia regularly have stated it may be due to a coaching change. Last year Sarnia had more of a run and gun style system where Chych was expected to join the rush. This year with thier new coach they are playing a more conservative tight two way game. Chych is relied on more to play a defence first game. Sarnia is playing much better this year. I think there is still a franchise level defencemen. Hes just more of a Doughty then a Karlsson. He'll likely never break 40 points but he will drive play with the best of them.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I would take Doughty over Karlsson every day of every week of every year

 

[puck stoppa]

Many of those that watch Sarnia regularly have stated it may be due to a coaching change. Last year Sarnia had more of a run and gun style system where Chych was expected to join the rush. This year with thier new coach they are playing a more conservative tight two way game. Chych is relied on more to play a defence first game. Sarnia is playing much better this year. I think there is still a franchise level defencemen. Hes just more of a Doughty then a Karlsson. He'll likely never break 40 points but he will drive play with the best of them.

Nice post. And his PTS are still fine this year. I think you have to take this guy at 4 if he's still there. We really have a need and he may be BPA at 4.

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

I would take Doughty over Karlsson every day of every week of every year

agreed...

 

[Rheged]

I really hope the Jets don't draft Tkachuk ahead of Chych, Nylander or maybe even Sergachev at this point.

Tkachuk is definitely the scariest guy up there at the top right now..

 

[surixon]

Nice post. And his PTS are still fine this year. I think you have to take this guy at 4 if he's still there. We really have a need and he may be BPA at 4.

Yeah his overall offense really hasn't dropped that much. His go's are still solid and his assists have really picked up. I also like what I see from him.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I would take Doughty over Karlsson every day of every week of every year

I tend to agree but this says no:

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[Daximus]

I tend to agree but this says no:

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You have to wonder how Karlsson would do on a team that plays a much tighter two-way game like the Kings under Sutter though.
On Ottawa he is free to roam and is pretty much a 4th forward out there. If he wasn't able to do that as much would he be putting up the same numbers?
You also have to wonder how good Doughty would be without having to be as defensively responsible and being able to just jump into the play more on the rush more.
Two very good defencemen used in two very different ways.

 

[Aavco Cup]

McKenzie in his show primer just said that Mathews is clear #1 and the two Finnish wingers have clearly separated themselves from the rest of the pack.

 

[mcpw]

McKenzie in his show primer just said that Mathews is clear #1 and the two Finnish wingers have clearly separated themselves from the rest of the pack.

That was my impression, too. Chychrun and Tkachuk have some question marks.

 

[Mooche]

On McKenzie's NHL Draft special the listed comparable for Chychrun was none other than.... Zach Bogosian.

 

[MardyBum]

Man there's a lot of good players in the top 10-15 of this draft. Hopefully Ladd goes to a bubble team and they miss the playoffs lol.

 

[Daximus]

ewwww they compared Chych to Bogo not even close Bobby.

 

[MardyBum]

Alex looks bigger than Willy. Willy doesnt skip leg day though.

 

[MardyBum]

Huh, Bean ahead of Sergachev.

 

[Rheged]

Bean's numbers / size combo is really good.. I kinda like seeing him that high, and nice that Dubious is firmly on the radar.

 

[Daximus]

Huh, Bean ahead of Sergachev.

Some odd rankings for sure. But he is doing well in the Dub.

 

[John Agar]

ewwww they compared Chych to Bogo not even close Bobby.

They were using Craig Button's comparable list...

So what you meant was "not even close Craig"

Chych for one isn't prone to injury...

And more...

 

[Daximus]

Weird that he has McAvoy rated so high. Haven't liked what I've seen from him enough to make him a top 25 pick even.

 

[Daximus]

They were using Craig Button's comparable list...

So what you meant was "not even close Craig"

Chych for one isn't prone to injury...

And more...

Either way.... horrible comparison.
Though to be fair he compared Pulju to Wheeler which I think is spot on.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

The stars are aligning that Chychrun will be a Jet

 

[BrianFromAIH]

The stars are aligning that Chychrun will be a Jet

Chychurn-Trouba please.

 

[John Agar]

The stars are aligning that Chychrun will be a Jet

If we pick at 4 or 5 yes..Chych would be a good choice...

Big, strong, above avg mobility, decent skills, developing strong defensive game...

But what if we have a top 3 choice ?

Not a chance would we take Chych...

One can dream, can't he...

 

[garret9]

I tend to agree but this says no:
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Uh. It doesn't say no. It says that those are the results in those areas that those two get.

From that own website:

Question: Do WARRIOR Charts and HERO Charts tell us everything we need to know about a skater’s effectiveness at even strength?

Okay, this isn’t exactly a FAQ but I think it needs to be addressed. Pro scouts can exhale – the answer is NO! These visuals were created with the original intent of providing a quick resource to attain a surface look at a player’s effectiveness when trades/signings occur. As explained earlier, the metrics used to evaluate talent are far from perfect. Contextual factors are impossible to completely account for and player evaluation requires a deeper look into those factors before drawing any conclusions. Despite these imperfections, I believe that both Warrior and Hero charts satisfy my original intent.

Another goal was to simplify modern statistics in hockey and capture the interest of casual fans. I hope that some of those fans are encouraged to do some of their own research and help improve our understanding of the game.

Why you want one over the other is based on multiple things, which includes those values but not exclusive to those values.